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Some, yes. Your second point is true, while irrelevant.
Yeah, that's what happened. Ya got me. What actually happened is that I resigned myself to what the day's course of events would be: I thought orange would be lynched, then I would be NK'd with no bodyguard left to save me. Because I assumed I would die, I focused on getting my opinions out in the open rather than generating new content. In retrospect I could have played much better, but what can ya do?
Fair enough, I suppose.
I'd disagree there. I'd say thread control is more measured in who spurred/is guiding the current conversation, but I see what you mean.
Ironically, this is part of my reasoning for believing you are scum.
An entirely inaccurate possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.
Here's my reasoning: Orange flips scum,. We killed a scum, I'm NK'd, you're basically cleared, and town goes about its merry way scum hunting and winning. Orange flips town. We get a rather large amount of information, you, who I at the time believed was scum upon an orange town flip, are lynched, and town goes about its merry way. I am, of course, NK'd. It all comes back to the fact that your arguments were plausible, and I wanted to see if they were correct or not.
Again, with my cop claim, I resigned myself to the, admittedly incorrect, assumption about how the rest of the day would play out.
First, I did scum hunt after my claim. Do you not remember the large dialog that took place between myself and others? Do you not understand why I voted orange in the face of an imminent NL? Secondly, I don't know why you think that me having a busy schedule is a scum tell. You assume malicious intent, as if I'm cackling evilly as I type "sorry, on mobile" from my multi trillion dollar supercomputer. Imo, anything inside the game is fair game to lie about. Once you start incorporating deceit regarding real life into your crucial play, you're being a ****.
I think the initial push on Barman was rather nonsensical. However, I don't like the way he's responded to pressure, and his being on two incorrect wagons isn't a good thing, but it doesn't make him scum. I'd put him at soft scum lean, but that will change significantly depending on how this phase plays out.
My argument was wrong, yes. Multiple peoples' arguments have been wrong this game. Some of your pushes have been mod confirmed wrong. The entire mist wagon was mod confirmed wrong. That's how mafia works. Can you define push? Because to me, push means the application of pressure, either with the goal of getting a lynch or evoking a reaction, to a given slot. I'm pretty sure that was a push, dude.
Could you explain your reasoning behind this? I think I understand it, but I'd like to hear it from you.
If you flip scum, (meaning Corps is town, more importantly) I'd be inclined to look at Maven. If Corps flips scum, I'd look at Aqua. I'm posting this now so that y'all know I'm here, but I'll respond to Corps' questions about the mist wagon now.
I completely agree with this, but a post number is usually indicative of who has been guiding the conversation (unless that person has been posting useless, noncommittal garbage and hasn't done anything good with their slot).
I expected as much because the PoE works both ways.
Sure. My opinion on Polish hasn't changed since I posted my read list and I will continue to think such unless you flip non-role cop. If that happens, I will instantly assume that Polish is scum and would recommend that he be lynched immediately; town would have no reason to corroborate a fake claim, and it would be far too risky as scum to assume a role of someone who you aren't aligned with. From PoE, I would look at Aqua and BarMaven, who I thought were both null/scum or null slots yesterday. If there is an Indie it's likely Aqua because BarMaven didn't perform any night actions N1, and if there isn't an Indie, I think that either slot could be scum. I haven't had time to 1-on-1 with either of them recently, so I'm not sure which one I would pick in a scenario where you flip cop and there is no Indie.
If I were scum, do you really think that I would try to lynch Mist because I was afraid of his push on Maven? Everyone who was active in-thread knew how garbage his push on Maven was.
Not at all. It was relevant as an example so you could understand my thought process. I'm not bringing it up as a point against him, as I believe he is the townie from the both of you.
Yes, which was lazy and scummy. The right action would be 1). Not voting who you thought I was wrong on, and vote someone else. That's all I'll have to say.
I wonder why you didn't come to that conclusion earlier?
Here's the thing though. That's not valid reasoning if you aren't sure if Orange will flip scum, and you think my argument against him was really really bad, then saying if he'd flip town that you'd want me to die next. That would be setting up a line of mislynches.
If someone says they are mobile I don't automatically assume they are stalling. But if they post multiple times without producing, I may assume they are stalling if it seems like it. People do it. Notice how I myself have said I have been mobile yet I tried to give some content while doing so. You, posted once as mobile and didn't come back until after Morose was lynched. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
You don't factor in his not being present the whole phase except for his apology post and deadline?
Basically, I feel you didn't know who to push, since you didn't even answer to me who you wanted to push. Then after Polish posted his Morose push, you suddenly posted your big wall and weak vote on Morose. It just seems fishy. Not that I think it makes it more likely you and Polish are a team. To me it seems you are trying to set him up.
I'd agree with this. Lets come back later in the phase, once we have more information.
What information are you looking for?
I agree. Do you think we should give the phase another 24-48 hours in case anyone finds something to talk about (there's not much sense in keeping the phase open and making the next group wait to participate if conversation will just continue to be dead like it seems to have been over the past 22 hours), or do you think we should wait until the end of the 7-day phase?
What happened to this?
