not saying this is what I want, but I somehow feel like they may change forward air to send people upwards like our jab (i.e. Melee 'tipper' fair trajectories).
In which case, game over. It'll probably put Marth (and Lucina maybe more so) over the top lol.
My largest concerns right now are more balance changes that make them better while not making set ups for forward smash easier. If it's done poorly, Marth could be invalidated by Lucina for a while (like, who you're going to go if something into fsmash is easy/cheesy to do?) until those Marths start being consistently able to get tippers with those moves sub 60%.
Landing lag/etc changes to fair would likely not bring on this Lucina > Marth situation, but would still be pretty dangerous.
I could hope/pray that the Ike treatment comes in this patch properly. I guess the main one would be no frame modifiers but fair hitting on frame 5, jab on frame 4, and I'd say Dolphin Slash being fixed would also be ike-style treatment (more accurate/better hitboxes). As I've noted DS doesn't protect us recovering like nearly every other vertical Up-b does and it's because the hitboxes on the move are like... smaller than the arc itself, Marth really needs this 'fixed' more so than a lot of things (dolphin slash out of shield again being reliable on not-well spaced moves again would be a huge functional boon).
