Marathon Mafia D - GAME OVER - Vengeful Mafia

[Omni]

lynching someone just for being a weaker player is never legit IMO. Someone being a weak/strong player has no bearing on their alignment.

then we simply disagree

having a weak player in LYLO usually means that player is hard to distinguish in terms of aligment in the first place making them an absolute liability

that is of course we find one of the players in the heads up actually being MORE scummy

this is basic mafia 101, nick. either u forgot or just disagree with what is normally a common approach

 

[vanderzant]

@Chibo: If you'd hammered Nick right after he was at L-1, I'd say you were scum.

 

[Purple]

: (

gl all!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

i dont think so, ppl shouldnt be scared to hammer if theres at least something to go off of, esp in a fast game like this

A quick hammer mucks things up for the vengeful shot.

 

[CT Chia]

Although I've become less resistant to the idea of hammering early in mafia games, there's still a line. I don't want someone to hammer so quickly we don't get any info at all out of the day.

hammering early? were over halfway to deadline lol, 6 min left

 

[~ Gheb ~]

There are no NKs, Chibo. What happens if deadline passes without a lynch? Nothing.

 

[Omni]

6 minutes

no one is quicklynching so off the subject

 

[vanderzant]

5 minutes guys. Who's the play?

 

[Nicholas1024]

You're one of the most notorious pseudo-hunters here. Sorry to say that.

Only in your opinion. Only in your opinion.

I don't think it's actually his plan to just lynch weaker players? I don't think he ever actually said that.

At the very beginning, he wanted to know who was the weaker player so he'd know "who to lynch to keep out of lylo". So yes, he is prepared to do that. He never actually proposed it as a plan, but the fact that he is prepared to do something like that raises alarm bells for me. I think he's setting up a mislynch later.

@Omni
In all the games I've been in, I've never seen someone lynched just because they were a weaker player. EVER.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote

 

[Nicholas1024]

I know weaker players can be a liability in lylo, but my #1 approach is always "Lynch the scummiest player". That's all. A no read is always better than a scum read.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I think Nick is town.

 

[Omni]

more importantly i would think that hammering in general wouldnt be an issue for nick and chibo just cuz i know they are vets and are aware of the setup

ive got nothing on vander since ive never played with before so i cant expect anything

thinking we should just no lynch it up until we have enough conversation. no point in trying to reach deadline if deadline means nothing for scum

 

[Nicholas1024]

Anyway, can we lynch Omni? He's the only one that's been setting off scum bells so far.

 

[vanderzant]

So, if we don't lynch before the deadline do we get a new deadline?

 

[CT Chia]

if townies still get a venge shot day 2 then im all for no lynching for more time

 

[Nicholas1024]

@Xiivi
What happens if deadline hits and we haven't reached majority?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote No Lynch

 

[Nicholas1024]

If we get the same thing D2 as we do here D1, I'm for it, but else I'd rather lynch Omni now.

 

[CT Chia]

I know weaker players can be a liability in lylo, but my #1 approach is always "Lynch the scummiest player". That's all. A no read is always better than a scum read.

who do u think the scummiest player is atm?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

The vengeful shot can actually backfire...hmm might as well forget about it?

 

[Xiivi]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Vengeful_Mafia

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1) vand:
2) Chibo:
3) Nich: vand
4) Omni:
5) Gheb: chibo
6) Not Voting: gheb, nich, omni

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No Majority = Highest votes lynch
If there are no votes, random.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nick, be specific. What makes you want to lynch Omni?

 

[Omni]

Only in your opinion. Only in your opinion.


At the very beginning, he wanted to know who was the weaker player so he'd know "who to lynch to keep out of lylo". So yes, he is prepared to do that. He never actually proposed it as a plan, but the fact that he is prepared to do something like that raises alarm bells for me. I think he's setting up a mislynch later.

@Omni
In all the games I've been in, I've never seen someone lynched just because they were a weaker player. EVER.

huh i already explained why i wanted to know who was weakest

if it becomes a heads up and i have an even read on them both (i.e. i cant tell who is more scummy) then the player i'd rather avoid in lylo dies

in this case however i'd probably lynch the strongest hoping that they'd pull a good shot afterwards

 

[vanderzant]

Unvote

Vote: No Lynch

 

[Xiivi]

Extending deadline for 5min due to the rule clarification.
07:25PM EST

 

[Nicholas1024]

Okay then, we should definitely lynch Omni

@Gheb
How can the vengeful shot backfire? If we mislynch its our only way to avoid losing!

 

[CT Chia]

Unvote Vote Nich

 

[Xiivi]

No Lynch is not a valid target.

 

[vanderzant]

Ninjad

10 char

 

[Omni]

wait nick wants to lynch me

yea explain plz

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Lame

 

[vanderzant]

I'm fine with Nich or Omni to be honest

 

[Nicholas1024]

It was his "weaker player" thing. I think he was using it to setup a mislynch later. Right now it's definitely the best thing I have to go off of.

 

[Xiivi]

1) vand:
2) Chibo:
3) Nich: chibo
4) Omni: nich
5) Gheb:
6) Not Voting: gheb, omni, vand

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote Chibo

 

[CT Chia]

im feelin good with omni this game, and agree with how hes doing things this game (his plan) so yea lets get nich out of here, idk how he doesnt get this train of thought

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Shoot vand if town

 

[Nicholas1024]

huh i already explained why i wanted to know who was weakest

if it becomes a heads up and i have an even read on them both (i.e. i cant tell who is more scummy) then the player i'd rather avoid in lylo dies

in this case however i'd probably lynch the strongest hoping that they'd pull a good shot afterwards

Hm... Thing is, that's not what you said earlier. This line of reasoning is okay, but it doesn't match up completely with what you were doing earlier.

 

[Omni]

is that so vander

why are u fine with me

nick can u refrain from answering my previous question for a sec

o well nm