Mafia Royal Sleepover - The Party has been Crashed! Mafia Wins!

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Vote: Tom

=o

And of course Zen~

Oh yea another note, I am going to be V/LA all week due to hell week for a play i'm in so please forgive me.

I am back from V/LA now and will be re-reading making a post tonight.

Only 8 pgs though? Huh that's unique.

Any questions from anyone?

Kay, Zen's town and I am 100% more comfortable with handholding with him.

DH is meh and I'm not confident in putting a vote on him.

Vote: Gova

Good with putting a vote here. Hmm I wonder what this will do.

Go Questions Go.

Boom,

You three, above me, why no questions?

Why broski?

Kay, reason I asked is because I have not made absolutely one substancial post this entire game and was seeing if anyone had anything pressing.

I find it odd that all three of you did not say anything to the vote I placed on Gova without any explanation which should have struck some people as odd. After my complete re-read there is nothing you would like to know? Why? I want people to ask me questions because this game is pretty much dead.

I've replaced into games before and got a flood of questions. So it's a scum-tell to ask people if they have any questions? Oh Zen my boy you are silly this game.

Personal meta on Zen. When he is a bit obnoxious with his post style and active to a point of being one of the most active players in the game. That is town Zen. Plus the fact he is accusing people for stupid reasons even adds to townZen. Also when he becomes a martyr it's pretty telling.

So you are seeing Zen as null? What do you think of my clear of Zen based off of meta?

Vote on you is pretty much random. Trying to get some activity going. I am not really feeling DH lynch and I am 100% against a Zen lynch.

I'm trying to think.....I am just coming up with nothing at this game at the current time because it's been between Zen/DH the entire time. Needs more info but we only have 3 days...hmmmm.

Zen,

FF = Scum
DH = Scum
Gova = Scum

Where does J = Scum? What if DH flips town? What does that do to all your reads and who should be looked at next?

Frozen/DH connection is weak and dumb
DH is just meh cuz I wanna call him scum every game.
Gova has been answered. Pot calling kettle black if you calling Chibo skimming.
Chibo is a little useless but I'm getting more town-ditziness however I only played one game with Chibo before and that was DGames mafia in which I replaced into with him. Chibo's null, leaning town.

Kay so if DH flips town you are gonna disregard your FF/Gova scum-tells. Gotcha.

Kuzi is inactive and not really playing to what I usually see from him but he sucks at D1. Personally I wanna see more from him.

Interesting tidbit was OS' thing on his posting restriction and how much he went with it. I think it holds no merit and asking someone to break a restriction is not right. However, I stopped looking at posting restrictions since Discworld since it is not a tell of someone's alignment. His LAL on kuzi is....not correct.

X1 is your strongest town read I take it?

Whatcha think of OS/Mentos?

Dark Horse, talk about Gova
Gheb, talk about Chibo
Gova, talk about Gheb
Chibo, talk about J
Kuzi, talk about Dark Horse
FF, talk about OS
Adumb, talk about FF
OS, talk about Adumb
Mentos, talk about Zen

I can't remember the other people in this game atm.

Remember'd them

X1-12, talk about Mentos

Tom isn't even here so what's the point?

-_-"

Also I forgot to Unvote

DH, where did you learn to count?

I updated the vote count btw besides my previous vote.

omfg..........

Happy Zen?

Wait who the eff is Princess Slhoka?

Yes Rockin gave safe-claims in Dgames mafia and freaking strong ones too.

Are you willing to risk losing a possible PR claim?

Character claims is what I meant.

Vandy/Adumb got Gheb with a posting restriction in which they had to use his arcanine in every post. Gheb is a pretty town player from what I've seen so far from previous games.

How did I lie now?

Oh now that's a ***** move.

We are all playing aim mafia together =p

I won't be posting tonight cuz I am dead tired after ending my game and the day I had. I hope you all can understand.

Remember just over 48 hours I believe.

Scared? Hardly. Mass-claiming is just dumb till a certain point like MYLO. (shhh OS we will have conflicting views on this.) Why are you on Kuzi-kuz again when you wanted a wagon on Chibo and now your practically leading the inititive against him.

Impatient person needs patience.

Don't hammer, I have a post coming.

My ava .

I apologize for not getting this out sooner and for getting that prod but here is my catch up post/statement of views.

I'm gonna start with my town list and then say what I would like to see. My town list is gonna be different then kuzi's though because I like to explain why I think someone is something. However this list is in no order besides grouped town/null/scum.

th3kuzinator - town (am I the only one who thinks this?)

th3kuzi *sigh* Alright first I wanna point out something. Sadly enough, kuzi WOULD do something like fake a posting restriction to make it seem like he was making a great move to get reactions and try and do someting in which he thought would be beneficial but then it ends up blowing up in his face when people do not agree and by him getting called wrong he begins to call the people that originally attacked him scummy to a point. However here's the thing. This behaviour is extremely to paint as the most scummiest thing in the world as what Swiss/X1-12 have been doing. These two should know better extremely after a certain game all of us would rather all forget because in that game two scum people made th3kuzi's similar action like he did in this game seem like he openly admitted he was scum. Remember? Why do I know this for a fact? I was one of the people who made it look alot alot worse then it actually was, you know who was the other one who did so? X1-12. Now it's confusing me as to why you two are going at this even though you have seen the EXACT SAME MOVE STYLE from kuzi as town. What kuzi has not done that I can see as scum-kuzi is his activity but I cannot talk at all about activity because I have not been active as well. However imho Kuzi is just not smart town at the moment and is stuck with a firing barrage that people will not let up on. Kuzi's town and I am not going to vote for him. I refuse to. Call it chainsaw like I know X1 will but seriously you two should know better and I don't like it. Losing faith in kuzi though with each move he tries to do though since they always seem to turn sour.

Zen - town

Thiiiiiiiis guy. Alright Zen is 100% playing to his townZen meta it is not even funny. He is calling people dumb for not listening to him but at the same time he is not making much sense with what heis saying. When he gets frustrated he pulls a bit of a massive AtE storm and those posts of him wanting out seem genuine. Coming from someone who used to use AtE alot more I can see town intent behind them. Why would he quit? He was frustrated to no one at all listening to him however I can't blame people for not because I just don't know what the heck Zen is doing this game. I'm trusting my meta in him and trusting how much I know the guy here. He's definetely town. My read on him is stronger then my read on kuzi and was kindof easier to see. Zen also does rash things like the claiming as VT and willing to die just like that. Zen will be living toDay if I have anything to say about it.

Overswarm - town

He is reminding me of All-Stars mafia and his unwillingness to play in D1 plus I like the way he got on th3kuzi for the posting restriction and he seems general p.o.ed town. His constant nagging about LAL regarding kuzi is a bit of a town tell albeit a bit tunnely to say the least. OS has been on both Zen/Kuzi for understanable reasons and however I think he needs to chillax just a bit. Overall I'm liking OS this game and comfortable with keeping him around for longer. What he has done has seemed town and I don't see anything particularly scummy from him.

Dark Horse - town *regretfully*

I'm putting him here solely because of his claim. His actions have been scummy as heck but *sigh* what are you going to do with an un-CC'd Watcher claim? Seriously I have nothing more I care to say about Dark Horse.

Chibosempai - townish

I'm see townish from Chibo though to be fair I have only played one game with him and that game was not really a shining example for anything. However it is lining up with some things that a couple friends (Gordy and Praxis) told me about how to read Chibo correctly and from what I have personally seen in that one experience with him. He seems a bit naive this game when it comes to certain situations and hmmm....nothing definitive to me calling him town but I'm getting town from him so far.

Gova - null

Definition of a null tell this game. I have no current read to swing him as either town nor scum but he's just there for me tbh. I'm looking at his posts and I'm like "Alright then...." I'm stumped on Gova. I need to see more from him, alot more.

Gheb - null

Never really played a full game with game yet. And where I have seen his play it's all the same but he tends to flip so many different alignments. He is playing similar to his FF7 remix play a bit and his Discworld play too with a bit of his All-Star play mixed in as well for me (FF7 = town, Discworld = scum, All-Star = indie). I'm gonna need to look at Gheb more but something has bugged me about what he has said. He's said I am scummy/useless but has not pointed out what about I have done is scummy/useless so I am wondering what exactly does he mean. He's given his stance that I am useless and can die but there is no explaination to it.

FrozenFlame - null

Curious as to why he is playing differently then what I've seen of him in previous games. He seems to be playing normal but he is a bit well quieter if that makes any sense. His hesitation to being able to read me as well is different but I'm going to assume that I changed my playstyle from our last game together.

Swiss - scummish vibes

Swiss comes into the game and makes a kindof skeleton version catch up that people seem to like but I'm meh on it. It doesn't reveal much at all and he seems to be pushing easy people. Why did he switch to th3kuzi if he "will lynch Chibo in a heartbeat." If he was set on Chibo shouldn't that be where his vote resides? He seems to be bandwagoning a bit but I need to see more of him then what I have but I'm getting scummy vibes off of him.

Mentos - scummy

Now here is someone who is playing a complete 180 from what I have seen of Mentos. In FF7/DGames/NBC mafia he played in quite a different way. As in he was more active and also was not really that afraid to give stances on people, where has Mentos laid his vote on or give definitive opinions on people? He has been playing extremely safe and fence-sitty. The fact is I am not liking Mentos one bit this game and especially after a re-read. He just seems like he isn't willing to take a stance on a single person yet and hence why he has not even voted ANYONE yet this ENTIRE game. Not once has he put his vote down. Why is afraid too? He also has stated he has absolutely no scum-reads. All he's been doing is going along for the ride.

X1-12 - scummy

Alright X1's also been playing scummy as well. He is still trying his hardest to disprove the claimed un-CC'd watcher. He is also being contradicting in his views. He has called th3kuzi town and stated so to OS but now he is saying "Kuzi so scummy! Lynch him idc he scum." What changed? He is gonna say the lying of a posting restriction but X1 has been one of the people making what th3kuzi has done seem incredibly scummy and he did as such as a scum faction in B&F to the exact same person for a similar cause. He has also been quieter but hmm I'm gonna discount this since he claimed V/LA. However I'm not liking X1-12 either.

Nabe - scummy

Has this guy done anything right yet? He has said he is auto-matically gonna follow everything Swiss has to say and gonna parrot him the entire game regardless and takes that as his post to catching up an doesn't even post anything that seems to have taken any effort yet in this entire game yet. He has been lurking for one and did anyone notice he said his NOTES are exactly like Swiss' in his one post. He has openly admitted he won't do anything but be his puppet. Nabe is one for posting his views and I wonder what he will think of me this game, usually his opinion is indicitive of his alignment. Let's see what he brings. But Nabe is one of my scum-picks as well.

Vote: Mentosman8

Alright now what needs to be done?

More votes on Mentos, we have 2 days left and a kuzi lynch is a dumb lynch because he most likely will flip town.
People need to explain their reasonings for scum-picks.
People who said I am scummy: Why? Bring examples and speak clearly.
Who is the worst looking out of X1-12/Mentos/Nabe in your opinion?
The above chosen scum-picks: Choose one of the people and talk about them extensively.
Let's not turn another one of Rockin's games into a No-Lynch fest but we can move the votes onto Mentos, he is at L-4 at the current time and needs more pressure so bring the heat.
Zen/Gheb/Kuzi, you need to explain what you find useless/scummy about me.
Gova, more stances/input/content needed.
Nabe, more INDIVIDUAL content needed.
Swiss, what do you mean by questions? You only asked me one and it was regarding a post that I was asking questions to drive up activity in a dull period in the game plus they were also asked to help give insight as to how people thought about certain people in the game but some people choose to ignore the simple question asked to them which is a little telling.
Frozen, what's your read on me as of now? Still having trouble? Might wanna get some glasses for those ancient eyes.
OS, does this post do anything for ya?

*facepalm*

And a claim happens.

Princess Hilda fits perfectly with the doc claim.

Are you seriously telling me that you are entertaining the idea of lynching a yet to be un-CC'd doc?

Are you willing to gamble such a powerful PR?

I'm not going to let this lynch go through.

DH, you are useless besides your PR and would die without it. Vote Mentos and get off kuzi now. He can protect you otherwise you most likely WILL die tonight and thus hurt town even more. Do you see the risk yet? Please tell me I don't have to beat this into your skull.

DH, how are you gonna survive tonight if he is telling the truth?

And saying kuzi is pulling the n00b card and calling others scummy and WHERE ARE YOUR BREADCRUMBS?!

The hypocrisy is killing me.....

Commuter crumb?

What is a commuter?

Kuzi your post mimics exactly what I said, I don't mind this.

True but still.

We need to push a Mentos lynch now kuzi and a bit harder.

DH, quit being hypocritical, get off your cushy high horse seat that people built up for you, and vote Mentos,

That is such a far-fetched role....

Get someone else to lynch kuz, cuz I will NOT hammer him. I would rather NL then lynch a claimed doc on D1.

*marks down X1 trying to discredit and still lynch the claimed Watcher and now the claimed Doc*

K.

*nightmares of this being DGames mafia all over again*

No, it won't be.

I'm astounded we are still entertaining lynching a claimed doc.

Because they want to teach him a lesson.

Honestly...

Thank god....

scared me for a sec.

........

I don't know what to say, but I'm appalled.

what ?

Why do we go after Zen if kuzi flips town?

DH....die....please do.

I never discarded it but I never heard of it and he claimed doc.

Also in SC we quick hammered BEFORE he claimed UnBu and even then I thought that role was too obscure especially for the game KY had designed.

Getting to Gova.

Hilda healed the heroes after they were attacked in the beginning of the game and saved their lives iirc from the game.

Kuzi part, he tried a similar move in which he was trying to do a town power move. Same style, not same move. Actively avoiding the thread. So have you. Lying I'll give you.

First half does seem a bit hypocritical but it's still my opinion. Would my early reads be extremely crucial to you especially since you just NOW got a full re-cap of what exactly I am thinking? Nothing to comment on the second half hm?

Yes! Kuzi will be alive now.

Mentos lynch, go!

What on earth are you talking about here?

And I'll respond when im not tired/can.

Then what are some good examples of your play? Also you have an entire Day's worth of posts in a 20+/40ppp now in which you can respond to. Why have you not if your requirements are not met? You have alot of info to work off of, especially considering two PR claims AND the amount of material we have from people.



You act as if I should accept and should know that you would not be voting D1.

Give me some stances now Mentos.



Why would I vote for someone I don't find scummy?



Bolded part I am not answering, way to freaking loaded. In fact you have alot of loaded questions in this single post directed at me.

I had yet to do a full ISO and analysis of your play this game in which I came to that decision. You do not deny it was a skeleton post so I'm assuming you agree. It was lacking substantiated support and just seemed like a tiny half-fast summary. Chibo had been catching heat for his naivety and you agree because you added to this heat. With Zen you would have been called out a bit worse for bandwagoning and hopping on the easiest. Chibo is definetely an easy target because look where he is now.



Did I say always? It has pretty much been on there once and then until now you have had it on Kuzi. Let's see you are right in which you have made "inferences" and "reactions" which I have not discarded but you haven't been able to pull anything substancial. You have said multiple times he is scummy as all end. If Chibo was the stronger intial scum-read why change your vote? So your thoughts on Chibo have changed and thus you think Kuzi was scummier then him? But wait your votes right back on Chibo now that th3kuzi wagon has lost steam....? Again the question is, Why? Same question back at ya.



How did you know my Mentos read before I had said so? Already described the difference, please read and stop skimming. I'll talk about whom I want. I've talked about Mentos and stated why I wanted a Mentos lynch.



People have different views. There is no point to not vote someone at all and it shows a refusal to take a stance on someone. I mean seriously not even one vote yet and the game is in the final days of it's an extended D1. He didn't even place an RVS vote down anywhere. Does he have absolutely no scum-reads whatsoever? We are on pg 20 and I find that completely hard to believer. Maybe he has a voting restriction. It's plausible considering the circumstances however his refusal to vote is in no way a town tell for me. Why is it for you?

Is it a scum gambit? Could it be a scum gambit? Will it be a scum gambit? Is mentos the type of person to do something like this? Is mentos the type of person who would know we would know about him? Would a VT do this? Would a PR do this? Would scumMentos do this to look more town? Is this really townMentos? Would indieMentos do this?

WIFOM (FF correct that paragraph if it explains this definition wrong)

That is your interpretation of what I said and henceforth is a loaded question that has no right answer at all. Step it up. Both above questions were loaded.



Why is kuz scum? You've really not said anything besides kuz = obvscum so he should die however you've just tacted on material that you can help twist with X1 to make kuzi look worse. Why is OS not a town read for you? Also your buddying X1, why? X1 has been full-out trying to get both Dark Horse and Kuzi lynched even after their claims which astounds why a townsperson would still push so hard on them to un-CC'd claims. OS has been on kuzi practically all-game ever since he started hounding him on LAL and is still on him however now OS is just being tunnely whereas X1-12 has been doing this to not just one person, but two claimed PRs. Why?



How bout I'll make a case on Mentos if you make a case on Chibo, seems fair considering all the "scummy" behaviour he has done, and how you will "lynch him in a heartbeat." but I have yet to see you "make a clear, concise case." Where is this? Explain.



He's playing super obvious town, to me. Key words there. Chibo is playing well the perfect word to describe him is how I already have which is naive town. The Jester situation, the Zen tunneling, and his play.

You attack the post on Chibo/Zen and say to give explanations when you have yet to do so as well. I've given my explanation as to why I believe he is town, take it. Otherwise you're trying to scrutinize my views to make it seem as if I am posting misleading info when it's you twisting my words.

Btw, you have no room to talk as in "explanations" so I'm gonna ignore you till you stop being hypocritical.

FoS is cute.



Your like a child.

Oh you're scum too.



......

No one's gonna say anything?

Really?

Fine guess I'll be that guy,

Nabe, please die for your what seems to be purposely scummy behaviour and hopping on a wagon with such tiny info and agreement to the scumteam. You tact on the bare minimum and then say the obvious things in your posts by saying Vig should vig Mentos (however why are you assuming there is a vig in a game this side.) Why should the vig not vig you? You have been useless and scummy as all heck.

In fact, I don't feel a Chibo lynch because I have a town read on him. I don't vote for people that I don't feel are scummy hence why I am going this path since it seems no one will go for a Mentos lynch (why not by the way?).

Unvote
Vote: Nabe

He's only been phoning in content and I've expressed why I find him scummy. He needs to die over Chibo any day in my book.



Why was this ignored by so many people? Answer, chop chop. Not that much time left.

The only way you can get me to vote him is to stop a NL.

Otherwise I'm staying put on Nabe and mimicing X1's childishness.

****

Deadline is so **** close.

I won't be here tomorrow till late.

I will hammer Chibo tomorrow before midnight if it comes down to it.

This won't happen to another one of Rockin's games.

X1: kuz is actually a dumb*** lynch. Nabe is not.

Unvote
Vote: Chibo

I will not let kuzi be lynched.

X1, drop the idiocy and hammer Chibo. Or be a hypocrite and keep your vote null/useless on Kuzi.

Also answer my questions to you now.

*

Unvote
Vote:Chibo

tl;dr

Change your ****ing vote

*itouch johns

Mentos,

DGames Mafia Road Trip. Do you really wanna wait?

Respond to my 774

You have no case and wanna lynch an un-CC'd doctor. Kuzi is in no way viable as a lynch toDay.

Get usefull and start scum-hunting.

Respond to 774 as well.

X1, by no case I mean dumb case.

And set-up meta really? You're grasping and you know it. Just admit you're wrong and move on. You just came from a game that had unique set-up changes and have played games with stranger things.

If you are trying to convice me, you won't with such fallicies.

Mentos, quit dodging and answer what has been asked of you.

I really despise when people use ***** moves and excuses like these.

It's undignifed and slimy.

First question, I will when I can.

Last two questions are not for me to answer and just slimy questions.

It's slimy and I'll call it whatever I **** well please.

I'm done arguing with stupidity for one night.

I'm already on chibo.

Will be making a post shortly.

Unvote

Till then.

Where has Mentos taken a stance this game yet, person who should be ignored?

I'd love to see your reasoning behind Kuztown = Jscum a bit more.

I've stated why I think Kuz is town, please read.

Also whomever said investigate me, sure please do. I'm useless anyway so why not use me for an investigation to take on a question mark to three of the following people:

X1-12
Swiss
Gheb

If it'll shut them up then good and maybe we can get on track.

Failed to what exactly? Gheb you have no explanation for what you are saying.

-_-"

Why do people hammer so rashly.

He quickhammered when we had time.

Why?

Yea know, I was gonna un-ignore you but now your blithering.

His reckless tunneling is a town-tell for his n00bish un-relenting to get off of Zen whose playstyle reacts that from certain people.

I thought Gheb was a smart player, guess I was told wrong.

Who made this decision?
Who gave you the right to hammer?
Only people QQing is Myself and Kuzi. Why the over-reaction?

What are you talking about?

Moronic.

Please do vig/investigate me if I'm that much. I'm up for it.

I saw that quickedit.

24 hours awesome.

I can make that post now before closing time.

Yup .

So you think J/Frozen is a scum-team if a kuzScum flip does not happen?

Because you haven't been asking the question straight up until now.

Kay, Why are we even assuming there is a vig as of yet?

You caught me, I'm lovebuddies with them.

Soz ya'll.

Honestly, I'm not gonna deny something that is completely obvious and dumb.

Gova, talk about me.

Usually you can read me well though (aimmafia albeit) this is our first forum game together disregarding your first newbie game.

I'll grab the popcorn to see it.

Btw is this the same scum play as when I was confirmed Mason'd town with my buddy still being alive and the fact you tunnel'd me there? Or is this just your normal townZen = Jscum?

Then just talk about me Gova.

It doesn't have to be solely on meta, make it about my play this game.

Lol,

Place.

Your.

Bet.

Zenny-Zen.

Why don't ya tell me what ya want? I can't think of anything that worrisome for me.

Plus I love proofing myself right when your wrong.

Btw the score is 100% of the time J is correct (Never have I ever been wrong on you.). Zen is wrong 100% of the time.

You suuuure you wanna go through with this?

Lmfao <3 you Zenny-boy.

When will you be.....right?

Also, I thought of something. I'll go back to Dahlia and Pink for a month if you are right. Since you said you hated the fact I changed.

wait you mean you'd quit mafia for a month?

Wooooow alot of mods and players are about to get seriously ****ed off. I feel bad for them. Like wow your in so many games xD

Axel's gonna be lonely too.

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Overswarm, please be quiet, at least for a bit.

Gheb, you need to calm down as well.

I'll be posting in a bit.

I'm okay with being lynched,

Just let me say some things first if I can.

I recant this. I am not okay with being lynched because it is stupid.

Can't post tonight and won't be tomorrow so expect something from me by tuesday.

If someone wants to make a case because no one has brought one up yet then i'd be glad to destroy it when I get back.

Vote: Nabe

I'm comfortable with my vote here before I make a post.

How about I do what I think is best an actually scum-hunt to look at someone who is actually doing scummy things instead of following a case that is strongly based off of WIFOM regarding the NK and conjecture?

Nabe is a where my vote will be.

What are you blithering on about?

Oh right your measely attempt at a "case" (using the term loosely) that cracks the entire scum-team based off of fallicies, baseless conjecture, WIFOM, lies, spider-webbing, and other just blatantly wrongness.

Do you wish for me to destroy your work as well because that would be fun. In fact, I'm gonna grind into that piece of "work" as well.

Have you met Nicholas in here? You two have a similar tunneliness.

One thing I wanna point out, Gova agrees with the entire post by OS besides the fact he called him scum. Why?

Alright, it'll be a good laugh.

Yes and more hopefully, however, will you ever take a direct stance on me and quit tip-toeing around the subject?

Also you only said it was interesting/questioned it because he ASKED you to, no?

@Zen: I'm finally getting into this game. Elaborate on what you mean though.

@OS: Sure princess.

@Gova: Why? You dodged taking a stance on me again.

@Nabe: Bandwagoner and faulty reasoning. Why not show the class what you have to share regarding why this is similar to my B&F play. Die as well.

Zen/Gheb/X1-12, where is ya'lls individual cases on me which you said you would provide reasoning to toDay and nothing has been shown from you guys.

Zen, again, if it is based off meta again, I will openly mock you like in SC but do not take it personally like last time.

Gheb, now who's skimming? I suspected Nabe long ago in my big post. Also what case? Are you seriously talking about that one post?

Another thing, when did I arbitrarily place you in my scum pool are stated anywhere that I thought you were scum?

So the only reason you find me scum is due to why I have both a town read on Zen and Chibo? (your major kick-off)

I'll get to Nabe more when I can.

*sigh*

Back to this game I guess now that I'm back from V/LA caught up in everything but this game. Zen where's that case you promised?

I challenge Zen as well to make one post where he doesn't say that I am scum.

Post incoming.

Alright let me adresse the entire "case" again me at once because to be honest it is just one of the dumbest cases I have seen in my mafia history and I've seen some dumb cases. It is entirely baseless and everyone has just said "Yea J is scum, let's just lynch him." And no one, not a single person has backed up their reasoning besides some people a bit. I am using the term backing up lightly as I can. Let me get to my main attackers.

Zen

Zen tunnels me regardless of alignment. He just does not mesh with my play-style when we are the same alignment and continues to say I am scum until I am lynched. It is like a complex to which I must be scum one time and prove he is right but every time he has been flat out wrong. However this game he has not brought up anything saying I am scum besides, "lol J is so obvscum we need to lynch him ASAP." His case is also hypocritic in the sense that it is based on me calling him town when I came into the game which I normally do when I have a read on him and he just does not like it to admit someone else is right about his alignment and that he can be read. It's hypocritic in the sense that he hasn't called anyone else that has just called him town without reasoning. But has persued me because apparantly to him "it's a scum tell." Which in it's own is ridiculous. Zen is town BECAUSE OF THIS NONSENSE. I am just going to tune him out when he is screaming his nonsense because that is all it is, nonsense. There is nothing to listen to besides blithering and posts that just consist of this:



He is exactly the same way as OS this game besides the personal insults and yet (Soon he will) to post his baseless case that holds no air. All it will hold is conjecture as to why he personally believes me to be scum which he hasn't stated at all. All he has stated is that I am scum because he says so.

Gheb

Classic Grade A bandwagoner. Yes, he has added onto the "case" against me but in the end it is nothing but restating the facts. Now toDay he has seem to be saying "I have called J scum since D1 and it has been obvious to me and I have been attacking him since." Which is straight-up a lie. He has not at all. He has just commented on not liking me this game but when asked by myself (multiple times) he has said not a word to me why he finds me scummy. Then toDay he makes this post:



He starts off by openly being condescending by saying that everyone should know his thoughts why he thinks I am scum which is full of crap. I already explained the second part but he is choosing to act as if I did not tell him that because of Zen's actions I can infer a townChibo read because of his naivety. He acts like Mr. Veteran by saying "That's what we call selective reading." When it is not at all. And point out exactly where I have buddied/sat on the fence with either Chibo or Zen? Again he tries to ignore that I answered his question to try and make his point against me seem stronger. When he brings up the Gova instance it is basically pointing out a smaller version of chain-saw defense but reversed, "Because he does not agree with me on my Chiboscum reasoning, therefore I like him alot less." He also tries to make me seem like I'm trying to act like an olive branch to an arguement between Zen/Chibo which is just not true. He is trying to draw things that just are not there. Then he tries to say things like "I cannot comprehend how what J is doing is not manipulative." However he does not bring up exactly what I have don is manipulative so it weakens his point in general. Then he says "Well I'm not bussing but out of the other people X1 is the most likely busser." I mean what is this? This is classic mirror defense in which he tries to bounce blame for the bus onto someone that is not him. Also he never specifically stated that Chibo/J were his top scum picks by the end of D1.

OS

Not smart. All he has done today is come into the game and tunnel Gheb out of the blue. He tries to scrounge everything he can to try and convince people that Gheb is scum. He actually has done so which astounds me because of some of the logic he uses regarding the NK in which pretty much EVERYONE knows the FF joke about him dieing N1 every game regardless. He also extrapolates that every single post Gheb has made in this game is scum and full of crap and tries to peg the entire scum-team in a single blow. It astounds me the conjecture someone could use and get away with it. All OS has been doing is shoving WIFOM and this town is just playing follow the Shepard. It's just as bad as Zen's non-existant case on me. Zen and OS are the same in which that they get a tunnel vision set of mind in which they MUST be right and they are never wrong. OS' clear example of this is his play in All-Stars mafia which was ridiculous when he decided to tunnel Tandora and Praxis which almost cost them the win right then and there even though they lost in the end.


How is that post a red flag? It was my first real post into the game so explain. No one has done so whatsoever and just said, "Yea that's pri scummy bro." Where is the explanation?



I say I liked Zen because I believed him to be town and I have a record of knowing Zen's alignment like the back of my hand every single damn game we have played together and he knows this but refuses to admit so. Also can I not have an RVS vote/post as well?

Actually I'm gonna take a break for a second and adresse this point which has been blown out of ****ing proportion. Everyone is questioning my entrance post for a stupid reason. Why can I not have an RVS post to kick things off just like everyone else? What is scummy about that post? Seriously I see nothing wrong compared to other RVS posts and I've seen worse. I just find it stupid the exploitations people have gone to try and twist J = Scum that they even use my first post in the game. IT WAS AN RVS POST GET OVER IT. Seriously it's annoying that someone cannot come in an try and spark conversation by asking questions because the game was dead and my random vote was on Gova, I said it was a pressure vote as a joke BECAUSE IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE TO ANNOUNCE THAT. Which many people have pointed out but no one got it. Many people have been bawling over this post and it's just childish and non-sensical to take everything so seriously.



You obviously do not know me at all so do not pretend to think you know how I act. I openly state I do not follow anyone and do as I want and do as I think is the best.



You already were pointed out to that this is wrong.



Why lol @ pairings? What is funny about them?
Where do you deduce Chibo = Town and Gova = scum from that post?



How is that the foil? Explain.
Explain in depth how I am playing the opposite of Gheb and why we should take note?



So conviction = scum tell? With that logic your conviction with Gheb is a scum-tell and therfore you should be lynched, correct?

Hypocrite.

No I state reasoning but people ignore it because they have tunnel vision on Kuzi and was just ultimately stupid.



Nice overexaggeration to try and make your point seem more relevant. Maybe it's not me who needs to get back to acting class.

Why would town not do that? TOWN WANTED TO LYNCH THE EFFING DOC. How ******** is this that people lynched a un-CC'd doc. Why not lynch DH while we are at it as well? He has played worse than Kuzi did in this game and is an un-CC'd PR. Do you people actually realize the utter stupidity of kuzi's lynch? I do not care if I get lynched because of my defense of kuzi because that is my thought on the matter. Yes, Kuz was playing like **** but lynching him regardless of claim is just as stupid as my lynch in DnD mafia. This is an opinionized statement that you are saying that town wouldn't do that. So you are saying EVERYONE on kuzi's wagon is town because they did what a cookie cutter townie would do in your eyes? You do realize the fallicies in this line of thinking correct?



This quote is just stupid. Most of it is vented above.



.....? So I'm null to you but a scum read at the same time, right? What did you not like about me not coming in from V/LA? What are you talking about asking people to ask me questions to make them look bad? How does my defense of Kuzi no longer look scummy because he claimed Doc? You do know that is one of the reasons quite a few people call me scum?





What are you talking about? OS we have only played one game together in which I died N1 as a VT and you are saying you know my scum meta. How?



Self-fulfilling? Explain how.
Also you are trying to deny any and ALL meta with the bolded section. If you were to have actually read why I was saying Kuzi was town is because of the idiotic move he had done. A point to make here as well is you are the pot calling the kettle black in which you have not been commenting at all really unless asked to comment on something and you have not done anything on your own two feet unless it involves you directly so explain that to me. According to your logic you ARE acting exactly like kuzi except making a telling bonehead move.
How does it feel that I have known kuz's alignment before hand?
How does the way I came into the game not sit well with you?
I wanted your opinion on me who has caught the most heat and you continue to say that I am just null after all this controversy over me being lynched?

Swiss

Terrible Poster. That pretty much sums up Swiss in a nutshell this game, he has been skimming, his points are outdated and just tend to be not here. He has a little follower in Nabe and doesn't mind the fact that someone just wants to leech off of him and his reads. However when I try and think of memorable things he has done since he replaced into the game absolutely nothing comes to mind. He had a bout with me when he came in and then he makes this terrible post:



Agreed. Terrible post.



How is that scum? Yes people have quoted it. Quit skimming.



Why do you say Zen is town. Provide explanation.



Scummy. And no.



*facepalm* You obviously do not read well.



Explain every single one of these stances.



No. Why don't you actually read this game?

He has been inactive as of late because of laptop johns but I am not liking Swiss at the current time either and my view on him is still the same but at the moment he is one of my current attackers that say I am definetely the play. However he has something in common with my lynch pushers. No substance or nothing that states WHY I am scum and WHY I should die.

X1-12

A mini combo of Zen and Gheb. X1 has been just jumping on the J/Gheb one of them or both are scum wagon without providing much if any reasoning. He still hasn't presented a case on either me or him and just continues to make his jabs at either of us when he can and try and seem like he shares the town consensus on the lynch candidates but he himself has not stuck his neck out for anyone else to be lynched. He tunneled DH and Kuzi, Kuzi so much to his grave and lynched the un-CC'd doctor. Actually there is a point missing here, what happened to his DH = Scum Watcher theory that he has not commented on like at all toDay. It seems to dissapate because he knows that he cannot swing a DH lynch because after lynching the claimed Doctor he could in no way get DH lynched without sullying his name even moreso then he has already. Let me show an example of how most of his posts have been all day.



He takes teeny tiny jabs at who is looking like the most scummy and tries to parrot without looking like he is which is just underhanded. He has not taken a decision that goes against the flow of the town's thought process. He calls out posts that he thinks are scummy but doesn't explain WHY he thinks they are scummy. He also pulls up the RVS post that everyone has an effing problem with. Then he tries to advice dog OS and add a little jab that saying even a n00b such as J would think to lead false trails. Then he asks a question that has been asked all day but OS has ignored it and should know that he would ignore that question or answer it with his cookie cutter "Cuz Gheb is scum." response.

I could call this wagon on me an entire dictionary of insults but I'm just gonna keep this to a single word that explains it all: Stupid. Not a single person has decided to explain to me nor anyone else why I am scum BESIDES just cuz. The reasons why people think I am scum are as follows.

1.) An RVS post I made.
2.) My Kuzi defense
3.) Asking people to ask me questions
4.) ....

I'm drawing a blank after 3 because that is all people just have been repeating with nothing else to add to the current argument.

Zen
Chibo
OS
Dark Horse
Mentos/Gova
Swiss
X1-12
Gheb
Nabe

I'm good with anyone in the red.

Nabe I have not mentioned why he is the top of my scum-pick this game. He comes into the game saying that he will be following Swiss all game just parroting him and the part about this that is a kicker is that he has been for the most part! Nabe has also been acting scummy by only talking when it seems good for him to be able to talk and is trying to dissuade both my lynch and Gheb's lynch and adding the third option Gova to the mix. Most of his posts are just tiny one-liners that show no info whatsoever into them and when Nabe is town, he loves to speak his mind on what is going on and tell what is going down but ever since he has come into the game he has been playing Mr. Peanut Gallery. Only lately has he started to speak up more. I also do not like his proclamation to OS that Gheb is not scum and that he cannot possibly see that he is mafia. Anything is possible but he shuts off his mind to other situations just like Zen/OS have done with their tunnel targets. His reasoning however is even weaker/non-existant as Zen's and OS'. Then he says Gova is scum and needs to be lynched and provides no reasoning as to why he should be lynched besides the typical answer that everyone uses on their picks "They are scum because they are scum." This phrase is letting people getting away with calling people scum for no reason whatsoever and it is driving me insane to no end. It's ********. Nabe is playing actively anti-town and scummy to the highest degree to me at the moment and deserves to die. That is where my vote is currently and that is where my vote is staying till I can see something better. I am not opposed to a Gheb lynch and would be happy to hammer him but I want a Nabe lynch.

That is probably one of the largest posts I have ever made in my mafia career....

*phew*

Now I am caught up/adressed what I've wanted.

Care to explain why? The only one who looks really stupid is the ones just saying "Lynch Gheb just cuz!" or "No lynch J just cuz!".

I actually am debating on not lynching Gheb just to spite you because your lack of justified reasoning and your overall attitude.

Yes, Gheb is a scum pick of mine and I wouldn't mind seeing him dieing but your reasoning is just god awful and holds nothing substancial. It may seem childish but sometimes people's egos need to be popped.

You ignored my question.

And you fail at this challenge to the extreme.

Glad you brought that up.



Personally this is just moronic. Someone who uses emotion has no logic? That's idiots talk and kindof insulting to the way some people play or used to play. AtE is a style choice and some people play that way like myself so no you are wrong that AtE has no logic and that a "normal townie" has no reason to AtE.

Did you actually read what Gheb posted by the way? Yes it oozes with as much AtE as I used to do but there is logic behind what he is saying and it seems he is mostly hurt by the personal attacks by OS which I can understand. OS did cross the line. You can make a case without personally attacking a player. Although I believe Gheb to be scum, there are ways to go about it differently then laughing in his face and other things.




Give substance as to why Zen is scum because to my reads of his posts, it's seeming town. Tell me why Zen is scum.



Point one is a cute attempt to twist Gheb's wording.
Point two is actually somewhat good.



Now who's the one using AtE to make a point seem harsher? The bolded line.

Overall your reasoning is not well justified besides that one point I can agree with. However the reason I do not agree with the reasoning is because you are saying something not smart in that anyone who uses AtE holds no logic. You call out Zen as scum but do no state why and just say "Because of this that and those!" Which really is nothing.

What do you think of Nabe, Dark Horse?

I have no proof you are town, I'm just following what I have seen from your play which is a cookie cutter of your All-Stars play in which what you tried to do was exactly what you were trying to do to Tandora to Gheb. So "showing a townie" and you have not justified Gheb's lynch yet to me and that is the true stupidity of the matter.

What are you talking about in the second paragraph because what it seems is a bunch of dribble.

Also I'm waiting on you to respond to my 1218 so chop chop.

@Mod: Request prod on Gova/Swiss

That's not a response, that's just being curt.

Protecting him? Hell no. I want Nabe as I've said and that's why I'm not voting him.

Your last post was 2/17 and Gova's last post was 2/16 so yes you do deserve a prod. Surprising reaction to requesting a prod to you and Swiss, even though we may be talking outside of the game, it has nothing to do with your inactivity in this game.

Why? You've yet to give good, and I mean good reasoning as to why I am scum.

No, I've stated why I want Nabe first and you are still ignoring justfying WHY I should change my vote.

Honestly it's like talking to a wall.

Now you are just trying to tick me off.

Why do you refuse to give reasoning and bandwagon me? With respect to toMorrow is that if my lynch were to happen the entire wagon is going to be looking like idiots saying "Oh I just voted J cuz we all thought he was super obv scum but no one gave reasoning as to why." Which leaves the town up a creek without a paddle with little to no information when I do flip town to see who pushed my lynch the hardest when it's just been a cascade of stupidity onto the easiest target in the game for stupid reasons.

What if means for toMorrow is that you are refusing to give info just because. It means you are purposefully playing anti-town just because. It means that you are looking alot worse in my eyes if I were to somehow survive this lynch.

Respond to my section on you in 1218.

That's the part you respond to....

Not anything else....

But the most irrelevant part of that post....

*facepalm*

-_-"

Do not twist my words because you knew damn well what I meant.

I did not know I was already at L-1, but really? I mean seriously? Not a single person on this wagon has stated why I am scum and refuses to even give reasoning or has been putting it off and I am at L-1 because of this. Whatever.

I am Princess Prin Prin, Vanilla Townie.

Second part I wanted to point out, lol OS.

*shakes fist at Rockin* =p

But alright L-2 still and nothing I can do about claiming.

Why should people ignore the "drama" as you call it enshrouding me?

For the hundredth time, not until you justify your poorly constructed case and answer all the questions in response to my 1218. Yes, I want to survive to help town but at the point it's feeling hopeless. And yes I'm town.

What? Go more in depth here.



.......? The bolded parts are contradictory. You are saying it has no effect but you are not denying that is a telling sign of kuzi. What type of meta can be used to determine someone's alignment because honestly you are going back and forth here "Well that can't be used to determine alignment but maybe something else could but you can't use that for that person but you could use that for that person." And it's just being a fence sitter. You are trying to dissuade from use of all meta or bits and pieces that you personally do not agree with.



What? This paragraph is weird



I have.



Actually, no you did not but it gave the cover that you did.



*facepalm* Did you even read my big post? If so, you're blind. If not, why didn't you? I addressed this.



I explained why already I wanted you to talk about me...? You are not reading at all what I am saying it seems at this point. I like that little tidbit in which you try and insinuate that I am not town.



What?

Do you have any respect or dignity while playing this game? I mean seriously what is that post besides a mockery of me in which you continue to ignore me and then you have the gall to make a post like that? You have the a sickening play style that needs a severe re-look.

Get over yourself and deflate that ego of yours or quit talking to me in this game.

Summarization: Gheb = null



Summarization: J = null, but okay with him dieing just because he can't read me well? I don't even know what this is.



Summarization: Swiss = null, with an IGMEOU



Summarization: Zen = null, leaning scum



And people get on me for asking questions.

This game is so hypocritic.

*catching up*

Just wanted to say though.

Yay Glyph replaced in! =D Maybe he'll make this game more enjoyable.

Glyph will we actually get to play this game to the full this time?

.....really? If I need to explain this then please learn some facts. You do realize the polarizing effect of this opinion right?



You honestly did not ask this right after I just made that huge post?

Does anyone even listen to me when I'm trying to speak in this game?



You are admitting to twisting his words but your problem is asking if it is useless?




I don't know where you got this, bring up the actual quote instead of saying "what was here."



So he is null?



You do realize I was talking about just your bandwagoning on me correct? You are still dripping with put-downs to a "pathetic excuse for a town." You are wagoning with me and you even admitted in this post THAT YOU HAVE ADDED NOTHING NEW. You have said yourself that you just restated the facts. Which are in its own worthless pieces of garbage and saying it isn't it a lie. Where did I talk about you wagoning Chibo, and why did you feel the need to point out, "Nuh-uh! I was the first to vote him!!!!" Bolded sentence is a lie because no you have not. Really big yellow part. But now who is the one speaking ****?

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You honestly have not read anything at all as to what I have been saying for the quite some time now and saying that I voted you and have been bandwagoning you is just so full of crap it's astounding.




Thank you for proving my point.



Why don't you try and point out where you have said I am scum since D1 and your "omg holy" suspicions of me?



Explain the bolded.



You even said "What took you so long to answer it finally if it was that simple of an answer." You just refuse to admit I have already explained why.



What are you even talking about? I have not buddied Zen/Chibo and you haven't yet to point out exactly where I have. You just say that I have.




You are saying I have no substance in my posts? Are you serious? Man you are a good kidder. I mean seriously you HAVEN'T been reading a word I have have you? I hold no substance? Yet you don't get on people such as Swiss/Gova/Mentos/Chibo/Dark Horse but no I have no substance. That is just...I don't know what to call this. It's just wrong. You have not shown in clear detail how my stances are contradictory and the "obvious" anti-town implications." You haven't backed it up with quotes "multiple times" and it is NOT true.



AtE~



So by using one tiny word like "if" it's a hypothetical. So what is your read on X1 or moreso X1's slot.



Can I just say it?

Alright, yay.

Bull****.



Really? All I see that you find anti-town about it is your section yet you call the entire post anti-town without even mentioning the other parts of it. Your attack on my post is based on self-defense and if you truly found it anti-town/scummy you would have destroyed it's entirety and not just the section that addressed you.




You still haven't pointed out these "oh so many contradictions" and I have pointed out and explained things. It is YOU who has refused to listen to what I say and I am starting to think you have ignored me and just set on a tunnel mind that I must be scum along with Zen after you joined the wagon on me. Conflicting stances? Are you still babbling on about that weak thing of Zen/Chibo that I have literally spelled out for you at this point. HOW AM I PLAYING FOR MY OWN GOOD?



Agree with the FoS nonetheless.



No I didn't understand but w/e.



This part is opinionated. The bolded. It was in the post I quote....? So yes it is true. Your statement is opiniated in which you say that I could not have possibly gotten what kuzi has done to determine he is town. Did you know two players have a trust system in which they state clearly wether they are town or not before the game starts? How can anyone believe this besides the two? You were trying to dissuade me from using meta in this post and the post I firstly addressed.



This does not give you the excuse to input and just skate on by and wait.



What? That is a completely opinionized reason and holds no air.



But by saying that you are accusing me as scum, correct?

You quoted a post I made, but referenced said quote as "posted by OS".

Point it out then....?



First part, talking as a whole to town not just you.

Gheb, you are willing to lynch him to get OS off your back? What? Also you just state null-leaning town but don't take a stance on him.

J, So because you cannot read someone well you are willing to kill them.....just cuz? And you even say you do not have a scum-read on me but two people you have a scum-read on you aren't pushing! I mean what is this crap?

Swiss, So the only reason you feel Swiss is null-leaning scum like you've said is because of meta?

Zen, why?[/QUOTE]

At another NL in Rockin's game.

Zen, why didn't you hammer me or vote me at all?

Yes yes yes 1,000x yes.

NL'ing is one of the most anti-town things you can do.

You know my feelings on self-hammering and my exp. with it plus if you check the social I have been having CPU problems the past couple of days and hence haven't been able to get on and post anything. Hence why I received a prod as well for my absence.



Dark Horse, I wrote an entire post regarding my Zen read and why I believe he is town. If you refuse to read why when I stated it in an explained format; that is your problem. Please actually go READ what I said and not just ignore it and say "why haven't you restated it?" It's located in that monster of a post.
What? I was adressing your one post that you said "J what do you think of my reasoning for Gheb?" Which I did.
Why am I leaning scum to you?



Hmm same excuse to myself as well.

-_- Really?

I didn't just said I wasn't able to for one, plus if you knew the answer to why I would not self-hammer then why ask the question?

I should have been hammered but obviously some people just decided to let it go to NL instead. I.E. OS, Mentos, Gova

What are you even talking about?

Yes, it would have been better if I was lynched.
No, I would not have self-hammered for my personal reasons.

Quit twisting my words.

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Getting in before ninja'd by Rockin and the ending of the day, but I need to say something.

Zen, what does hat you even mean?! D= I also stated my reasoning for not voting Gheb in that I thought Nabe was scummier and wanted to get him lynched while I was also tbqh being a brat in not wanting to do as OS was doing because his entire case was baseless and I feel incredibly stupid not realizing what exactly he was doing. I honestly that he was just being an idiot because it didn't surprise me from what I've seen in his past games. Also I literally couldn't vote Gheb before due to the fact I was having computer issues and just not being able to be hear which you know about personally from being my hydra buddy in Celebrity. To answer the rhetorical question, No I am not trying to act like his scum buddy.

ToMorrow, I want either Glyph/Mentos upon a Gheb scum flip. (Which I'd assume especially with the over arrogance he has been expressing as of late which is rather annoying and I now understand why I didn't win FF7 ">.>)

Also where is Gova, he is the only one to not post at all toDay even though the day ended like lightning. Again, who the frick put him in self-hammer range? If it's who I am thinking it was then I'm gonna be on them even harder.

Been busy as of late, forgive me but I'll be up and going the next day. I'm gonna re-read as well.

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Zen, I already claimed.

Vote: Glyph

While I'm here.

Princess Prin Prin, Town Vanilla.

I'll get to the big post when I am not procrasting work at 1 in the morning and back from school.

Zen, that cpu paragraph is just plain bull and Cello-like reasoning on your part.

Wait, why are we mass-claiming again?

What's the benefit to mass-claiming so early?

Why did you not choose to vote one of Swiss/Nabe/J if they are so obvscum to you? Why did you feel the need to ask?

This game is easier to respond to therefore is first for tonight.

Yea, I was right as to whom I thought was the one who did what I thought w.r.t. yesterDay.





These two posts are 3 minutes apart and also Glyph comes out of NO WHERE to vote Gheb in which to put him into self-hammer range. Not even a couple of minutes later, as soon as he gets the chance, Gheb self-votes. Glyph "hops" on the Gheb wagon and causes us to end the day extremely prematurely.



What?



Already explained this, so please go read. I mean you are just asking questions to ask questions at this point towards me because I have answered every question thrown at me and jumped through every single flame engulfed hoop as well.



Thank you for telling me that....I mean I knew exactly what my reasons were.

While I do acknowledge that you lacked CPU access, you were still quite capable of moving your vote over to where it mattered. I had been in contact with you quite a bit and I had seen you viewing this thread specifically. This is no excuse. A simple 'vote gheb' should not have been a problem for you.



So one must have one definitive reason to do something and it cannot be tangent on a grouping of reasons? Excuses? I hope you are kidding.






What are you thinking now?



Not that I have expressed concern on both X1-12(Glyph) or Mentos(Circus) in the past or anything and actually provided reason to which I find them scummy unlike EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER BEEN ON ME. Seriously I am getting tired of coming into this game, getting ignored, called scum, and almost being lynched over the basis of nothing but that everyone agrees I am scum. Zen, you have yet to prove why I am scum and therefore and you have been vote hopping to what seems just to vote hop toDay. Maybe it isn't me who should be explaining my vote, but YOU who should be doing the explaining. What have you been gaining by voting Nabe/Swiss/Glyph all in a single IRL day? Get serious and use my head.....? What are you even talking about? Losing this game? What does that have to do with me besides you implying that I am going to be the demise of town?



Patience, good god.



Why?



"Come on guuuuuys! We all found J scummy so why not go back to him!?"
"He hasn't been busy or not have the day quick ended or anything of that sort!"
"He hasn't been defending his *** all D2 or anything."

How do you even know OS was even going to investigate me?

How about YOU present a case why I am scummy because again NO ONE HAS YET! It's infuriating.



OMG really? This is textbook WIFOM and just pure idiocy this entire paragraph.



What? I mean seriously, what at this entire paragraph.



You.....are.....such......a......hypocrite.......

It's your mission this game to drive me up a wall isn't it?



I mean really Gova? Honestly? This is it? Not that you missed an entire day or anything and decide not to comment. Not to bring up the fact that you were one of the two people who didn't place a vote at all on D2 and helped cause the NL. Not that we lynched Mafia, had NKs of the Cop and Watcher. Not that there is ANYTHING to comment on besides claiming and asking a question that looks as if to CYA. Please become useful. Give us your town list and explain who specifically you find is scum and I swear if I see another fence sitting shrugging contest or you hopping on the nearest wagon, your butt is going to be lynched so quick it isn't even funny.



Hurry up with what?
Why Nabe? I want Glyph.





No, if we are all claiming full characters and wanting to get facts right, you are going to do a proper claim since you had been craving one since yesterDay.

Zen, why in god's name is Glyph on your town list? Glyph's current play with X1's play beforehand is in no way a town tell by the least sense of the word.

I like Circus, alot. Idk I need to re-read his slot but from toDay's perspective he can live with Zen at the current time.

-Nabe
-Swiss
-Glyph
-Gova

Good god so many questionable people in this game at this stage in the gamee.

Does anyone know where Chibo is? He needs to tell us his mason buddy if he is telling the truth.

I'm comfortable with my Glyph vote and I'm sticking to it.

You have got to be kidding me.....

Disappearing? Explain.
How have I NOT had any content?
Where have I coasted?

I just think you aren't even listening to a word I say.

Is anyone?

Hello?

Why do I feel the need to post here?

Just realized for absent individuals for the next couple of days:

-Nabe
-Swiss
-Glyph

Two people who just don't bother to post at all and expect to skate through all game:

-Chibo
-Gova

That leaves:

-J
-Circus
-Zen

Kay, this is gonna be like pulling teeth trying to get info out of toDay.

Oh Gova's viewing! I wonder what he'll say!

*doesn't hold breath*

Now when do masons lie again? /inside joke



Now normally I would say not to lynch someone who claimed PRINCESS PEACH but then we just came from a game where the exact same sort of character was mafia (Celebrity for those who are outside the loop)



>:[

*about 2 hours later*

Can I just say it?

By "it" I am talking about Gova viewing the thread for at least one or two hours without posting a thing but had enough time to not just read/view this game, but other games as well.

I wouldn't get my hopes up.

He's done this pri much all game long and has openly admitted to not posting unless asked questions and has not scum-hunted all game.

Circus, you with me on lynching Glyph? =o

I agree with your sentimentality.

I want Glyph. Could you convince me of Swiss? I'm for him as well but more for Glyph as stated.

Do you think we can show Zen why Glyph isn't town though is the real matter of the situation.

I really need to here from Gova/Nabe/Chibo/Glyph ALOT more.

Circus, why do you make me doubt the scum-read I had on Mentos so heavily?

Zεη 257
Overswarm 214
Gheb_01 209
J 161
X1-12 145
Swiss 102
vVv ChiboSempai 91
Dark Horse 83
th3kuzinator 83
Nabe 70
Rockin 50
Gova 40
mentosman8 39
Glyphmoney 36
frozenflame751 20
Tom 12
Circus 11
adumbrodeus 5


Really Zen?

Really?

I am coasting on through this game with with the wind blowing through my hair.

*kick*

*bro fist to Pokemon Black bros*

Kay thank you for answering.

Nabe or Gova to go first?

I am thinking Nabe, Gova is just useless as hell. Though I feel I have gotten more from Nabe....I'm confused and need to re-read Nabe.

Sorry but no can do, I am totally obsessed at the moment.

On like a 3/4 hour marathon still so don't wait up! I still got three full discs ^^

join what?

This mafia game?

Because I wanted to play, now let me have a break cuz atm I am really just not in the mood for mafia.

Gova, are you really trying to pull THAT card on me?

How hypocritic. Why don't you go do something hmmm....beneficial for a change this game, get back to me, then try and pull that card. Or just sit there and please die.

Step off.

hypoceitic of me? Lol please die.

You have less posts then the MOD and try and call someone out on posts I think even Nabe AND Swiss who both replaced in have more posts with you.
Chibo who is inactive has even more posts with substance then you.

But i'm gonna let you lay in your fallacies while you assume you are right when in fact you are dead wrong and just look silly. It's only yourself making you look not smart by comparing yourself to me in this game.

Lol, post count doesn't mean jack **** when it comes to substance, which you also lack. Why did you even sign up for a game you obviously have not cared to participate in?

You HAVE openly refused to post unless it warrants a response from you AND you have done absolutely no scum-hunting this entire game. You have fence sat when called on for opinions and now you have declare me the scummiest person by calling you out which is OMGUS and holds no substance cuz you have yet to state why I'm scummy and hop on a hopeful bandwagon.

I said i wouldn't be posting for a night, unlike you who has been prodded not once but twice because of your failure to comply an actually do something.

And yet the thing you have chosen to persue is somrthing not which you call funny but something irrelevant in the fact that it is just you "trying" to call me a hypocrite.

Kay, should be easy since I even responded to it at the time. Btw why is your vote not on me? Hoping to get others on before getting on me or you have hesitation or a lack of conviction?

Why don't you try and idk make a case why I'm scummy besides saying "nuh-uh you liar you!" when in fact I don't see the lie.

Unvote
Vote: Gova

Zen, I'll get to you when I'm not posting on my itouch because it's a pain but if it was requoted onto this page then maybe i could do it but it will most likely have to wait till tomorrow.

It's funny as well, Gova tries to get on me for not posting but here i am. Oh the fallacies in his cute little pretend scum-hunting.

Gova, I'll back it up when i'm on my cpu, I mean don't you think I wouldv'e by this point? Honestly.

Also, thanks for ignoring the remainder of my post asking u to elaborate on your scum pick, vote, and answer why you arn't voting or doing anything worthwhile.

*be not by

Hypocrite? I've shown you how they are different and even by me posting now is a sign that I'm not when you wnt M.I.A. countless times.

nabe, who are likely scum-buddies to Gheb?

Gova, answer 1698 with actual support as well.

Nabe, shhh Gova's finally talking though it's trivial it's most likely all we will get from him for another couple days so let's cherish it.

Queen Bean is a good character in her game she comes from.

Also really? How *******ish. Answer the questions already an quit dodging.

She is the good queen of Bean Bean Kingdom that gets turned evil by Cackletta who makes her eat something that turns her all hulkish but she gets cured by Mario/Luigi and is actually a very kind, benevolent, funny queen.

Die as in get lynched.

BIG LETTERS FOR EMPHASIS!!! YOU HAVE STILL DODGED/IGNORED MY QUESTIONS.

For goodness sake what is so hard about answeing some questions on a cpu when I can do this on a laptop.

Your explanation for how Zen could be his scum-buddy is just laughable.

1690.

Answers, now. So your scum-picks ar Nabe/J? Why? Why did you choose the two easiest bandwagons? Why do you even doubt you claims by saying"if then let's go Zen." What is your opinion on Circus/Swiss? Who would be Zen's scum-buddy then?

Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

btw, I hate that you can't get on aim. ;_;

I'm in the middle of a post right now =<

Rhetorical? I specifically ASKED you to answer it. How in the world is that rhetorical?

WHAT? At the bolded. I mean WHAT. Are you serious?



How do I know? That's the one that is getting the most attention....duh. It's not subjective. Quit trying to put down things. Omg @ the bolded. YES, yes it would. 1,000x YES. You aren't extrapolating on your scum-picks, and you are not voting anyone. Why is Circus probably town to you? And wow the naivety and weak-based reason if THAT is your reasoning. Second bolded line, what? You could be swayed? What is your direct opinion on him? You dodged giving a response on Swiss and said a literal *shrug* and that you could go either way to be swayed.



Cool skimming bro. If you don't know my stances and think my entire stances are based off of Meta please stop talking. Why do you want to see if anythings changed? What has do you hope to gain from that? Why do you not know my stances which I have stated before? Why can you not go and find them and do it yourself? I'd be glad to give you them if you gave definite reason as to why.



I was not willing to NL.
I re-read the game and considered some things, Nabe is still really scummy but it's the fact that I am finding Gova even scummier at the current time. I also had a look back at Glyph/X1-12 and I was sure that he was a scum-buddy to Gheb but apparantly that is wrong with the mason claim. Gheb's scum-flip didn't change my view but I need to re-think a view people, plus I need to review my thoughts of this game. I didn't come into the game with no suspicions of him, I wanted to follow Glyph. As I've stated before, Gova/Nabe/Swiss/Glyph were my picks.

Zen/Circus/Chibo are my town reads at the current time. Now with Glyph since he is Chibo's mason partner.



Idk which color I think goes with the ava better ;_;

I could see Swiss being scum Circus, he is not being his normal non-chalant self at all with the fact of trying to lead town and just seems to be trying to scum-hunt but in the end it is coming up short as he hasn't been able to provide any evidence to his claims, especially when it comes to myself. Also, I see where you are coming from with Nabe's relaxed disposition as supposed to Swiss' anxiety.

Circus, can you comment on Gova.

Zen/Chibo/Circus/Glyph - would you be up for lynching Gova? If not, tell me why.

I agree with you on this sentiment a bit. Especially since I want Gova/Swiss more at the current time.

Grrr you and you making me 180 my view on your slot.

Wrong.



Gova, I hate to break to you but you are not misconstruing what I am saying to add to that false bravado you have in which you think you are right and know better than me. Arrogance annoys me. Therefore am done with this post because it doesn't give me ANYTHING from you besides trying to put down me and not giving any info or doing anything beneficial.

WHY NOT PERSUE YOUR SCUM-PICKS AND GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER?

What has J done that is scum to you concerning his slot?
What has Swiss done that makes you "easy to sway" to seeing him as scum?
What has Zen done to acquire your tell on him?
What has Circus done besides that intro post that shows he is town to you?
What is your opinion on Glyph/X1-12's slot before the claim?
What is your opinion on Chibo's non-existant slot?
What has Nabe done that is scum to you concerning his slot?

Circus has been acting town, persuing who he thinks is scum, actively pointing out fallacies in Swiss' arguements and to me, has been saying the right thing.

Basically the polar OPPOSITE of you.

Noted that Gova skipped the first segment of my post.

Why should he ignore me?

Actually you know what, I could care less at this point. It's like talking to a wall.

UNVOTE
VOTE: GOVA


Honestly.

Gova, is every question asked towards you rhetorical when you skip them?

So you are admitting to refusing to answer questions asked of you because you don't like them?

Thank you for confessing.

Whenever I listen to you it's wrong though. /Celebrity mafia /joking

I want Gova dag on it.

You must have a REALLY hard time reading.

What? That game you wanted to lynch me because I lied and you thought I was the mafia scum recruiter when I was confirmed by my mason partner.

Ironically, who was Swiss.

Thanks for admitting you do refuse things to pick and choose what you want.

Srs, lynch Gova.

You're referring to the wrong post.

You ARE refusing unless people ask things a specific way for you.

Why must things be spoonfed to you?

Zen, I will vote for Swiss to stop a NL but till it is absolutely needed I am placing my vote where I want it.

Gova, ignoring does = refusing cuz you are blatantly doing so.

Wait, how can you not have a read on Circus at this point? Or the slot in general. It's been there for over 4 Days now.

Hey Swiss, why haven't you explained why I am scum yet~?

I think I know the answer but I'll let you try and guess it first.

Very carefully placed AtE and edgy logic? Wth are you on?

Explain why you just ditched Circus for me as well.

Especially after you just made that long post in which you point out all his fallacies so explain.

I'll be sitting here, waiting for that "case" you apparantly have explained it.

Swiss, I've explained why my vote is not on you, please read.

It's weird seeing you, of all people, AtE.

Just on this page, you have two examples in different posts of AtE.

You do realize anger and annoyance is an AtE correct?

I want Gova >:[

Also do NOT end this day till Swiss posts that case he has on me.

Completely agree with this.

I was trolling -_-"

I changed the inside of the quote.

So Zen, when can we lynch Gova?

You're gonna have to explain how Circus is scum to me.

WIFOM HARD. That's pretty much that entire paragraph.



I wasn't even on Gheb's lynch on D3 AND I even refused to vote him D2 because of my reasons Zen has listed and had me tell him over and over what they were. So again, you haven't read and are trying to grasp at straws.



What? Explainly exactly when you thought this line. I.E. What post of Zen's?





Hiding in moral high ground? No, that is my opinion and I have said so in other games that I incredibly hate it when someone plays those sorts of cards to try and get someone lynch because it is just dirty play and people have brainwashed themselves into playing a certain way in which it's okay to play slimy when it is not. I don't care what your opinion is on that because I will defend that statement in every game I bring it up in.



Your #818 is a weak post in which you try and act smart to my posts and write one liners to pretty much the entire sum of them. If you can, please go more in depth to the "constant nipping at the heels and edgy play." That conflict doesn't show any reasoning as to why you think I am scum! You try and belittle Circus even more in this paragraph and what to the last sentence?

Nabe, Chibo. Don't do what Swiss says. Please. This game is fun. (I know that's AtE Swiss =P)

Lol

This is it?

That's your case? Kay.

Unvote
Vote: Swiss

I want Gova, toMorrow.

Forgot to respond to one of those posts, but lol since I know I'm town you just outed yourself as scum.

Yea let's lynch Swiss.

I see you took the time to respond to that above post as well and just that one joke post.

So you can joke but I can't? Kay.

Get lynched.

I got on you because of that half-fast, grasping at straws case.

Hey Swiss, mind explaining to me, who my buddies are?

Was I buddies with Gheb? Based on interactions? If so, state where.

What's your thoughts on Gova? You haven't expressed anything on him.

Well get a sense of humour.

How was I his buddy and WHO is my other buddy?

I expect answers when you are done.

So you have no clue?

Out of

Chibo - Claimed Mason
Glyph - Claimed Mason
Zen
Circus
Nabe
Gova

You have no clue who else could be scum whatsoever besides me? You have nulls on everyone then? You have no thoughts as to who else could be scum? NONE at all? Alright then, thanks for telling us.

ZEN as my buddy?! LOL Now THAT is a good joke.

The OS kill is malarkie because it is all WIFOM and just trying to grab a reason to call me scum because from what it appears and from what you have shown us, you have nothing. He didn't even have a wagon on me, he had a wagon on Gheb.

Oh good god, this is getting painful to watch.

Gonna disagree.

You forgot there were claimed masons? *facepalm*

Weak reasoning for your Zen is scum reasoning.

Well then what ARE your reads on everyone then?

Please do tell.

Swiss/Gova, there is NO reason as to why you should not be posting in this game.

Claims:

J - Princess Prin Prin, Town Vanilla
Circus - Queen Merelda, Town Vanilla
Glyph - Princess Daisy, Town Mason
Nabe - Queen Bean, Town Vanilla
Gova - Princess Elincia, Town Vanilla
Swiss - Queen Ambie, Town Vanilla
Chibo - Princess Peach, Town Mason
Zen - Princess Deku, Town Vanilla

However there are some flaws to your triangle.

Nabe never said J was scum. He actually said my play this game has been indicitive of townJ.
Gheb never said Nabe was scum.
J was on Nabe not Gheb. Though I did call him scum.

So I don't see how that triangle even works.

Your first point does work though.

Zen, I've changed my mind as have you have with me so far toDay. Why did you stop pressuring me?

Swiss/Gova>>Nabe

at the current time.

Nabe wanted Gheb lynched?

I need to re-read that portion.

So you think the scum-team is J/Gheb/Nabe?

We need to pick a lynch and stick with them.

Who is going?

Gova
Swiss
Nabe
J

Glyph has a broken laptop
Gova is just ignoring this game and not caring
Nabe is V/LA
Chibo announced V/LA

You
Me
Zen
Swiss

Are all who have been here.

*facepalm*

A replacement replacing out.

Wait Glyph! At least come back and leave your vote on Swiss!

We need your vote to at least acquire a lynch because we do not have enough people.

Gova, put your vote on Swiss or I am changing the lynch back to you.

Very well then.

Unvote
Vote: Gova

If I was going for the easiest lynch, I'd stick to you.

I've also stated as to why I find Gova scummy.

Chibo, who are your scum picks for you personally?

Zen/Nabe as your thoughts on the team?

What are your thoughts on Swiss/Circus?

I'll respond to a few things in a sec.

If you say you know Kuz as well as you know me then you barely know kuz at all.

Gova, vote someone, ANYONE.

I need to see if you can actually vote.

Tonight's gonna be hell catching up in all my games....

;_;

Circus, what exactly do you want me to respond to so I can get to it when I get home?

If anyone else wants to do this as well please tell.

Also, Circus, I believe we are in a very similar position it seems.

Hmm that's interesting Nabe.

Sorry for not posting yesterday, I honestly couldn't because of what happened but blarg.

I'll get to this when I get home.

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I'll post something when I wake up more (z_z)"

Can we lynch Gova?

Two games down, two to go. This one is next.

Circus, it isn't you, it isn't me, it's down to Swiss/Nabe. I'd go with lynching Swiss over Nabe tbqh though I could see a Swiss/Nabe scum-team.

However I am confident on Gova flipping scum.

I really hate ninja's

especially ninja's I didn't see in the thread.

Circus, riddle me this.

Are you scum?

Circus it is process of elimination for me then since I trust you not to lie to me.

Let's go over the facts then:

I'm town
Chibo is town
You are town

Therefore we have three suspects left.

Gova
Swiss
Nabe

Now personally, I don't wanna lynch Nabe at the moment. So for myself it is Swiss/Gova. I want Gova d-e-a-d. DEAD.

I'll have more to say but till then.

Nominate: Gova

No one, and I mean NO ONE will vote toDay till we are cleared since it is MYLO.

Circus, I'm moving towards Swiss as the lynch the more he posts.

Nabe's viewing, =o

Swiss or Gova, Nabe?

I wanna lynch Swiss.

But I wanna lynch Gova.

Who do I lynch? ;_;

Ciiiiiiicus, help me out and decipher who we should end up lynching.

Why is Gova not in your vocabulary?

Pardon me if I have an extremely hard time buying that.

Swiss, answer me.

Who is my scum-buddy?

Yes, hence why I am asking that question.

Why is Gova so town to you?

Yes, Chibo everyone's claimed VT.

Chibo, I swear to god if you vote now I will NK or get you lynched D1/N1 the next game I am in.

Gova, I don't recall asking you for why Nabe thought you were town.

That's Gheb's WoT in response to a few things but mainly my explanation why I think he is scum?

Nabe, are you honestly trying to discredit Circus?

Oh good god what is happening to this town if everyone is being so scummy.

Nabe, you are clearing Swiss off a pretty weak reason in MYLO.

Do you honestly think the scum-team is J/Circus?

Might I add you are also clearing Gova off of weak reasoning as well.

I find Circus town because of the way he has approached this game since he came in and all his thoughts pretty much correspond to what I have been thinking all game. He has legitamately trying to find out who is scum and I can see the town intent behind what he has been saying.

This game isn't being lost on a lynch as stupid as a Circus ML.

Maybe I should use the same logic Nabe/Swiss/Gova is using to defned Circus.

He is town because he is town and for _____ post with ____ post combined.

You won't be voting Nabe unless we tell you.

You will vote when me and Circus tell you to.

Regardless of what Nabe is doing now.

I'm sticking to my guns with Gova/Swiss.

You will not vote Nabe Chibo.

Just be quiet and play idk smartly?

Gova = Circus/J
Nabe = Circus/J
Swiss = Circus/J
Circus = Swiss/Nabe-Gova
J = Swiss/Gova
Chibo = Nabe

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Circus' play as compared to Mentos' play.

It is like complete polar opposites.

Nabe, do you honestly think Gheb would make sure he pressured not just one but BOTH his scum-buddies to begin a day in which he knew he was getting lynched?

This game isn't gonna be lost on a lynch as dumb as Circus'!

Are you serious with this? I mean honestly tell the truth. You can't be serious about NL'ing.

^^^^^^This x100

He has it completely right and I don't even have to post why NL'ing is dumb.

Hmm I think something could come from that.

Someone tell me what was Zen's read on Circus?

Actually give me his reads in general.

Nabe, are you considering the possibility that Chibo may be mafia?

Mine or Circus?

I kindof got lost as to who you are adressing.

You mean your safe-claim Circus?

Hurry go to the QT, we have to continue fooling them.

I corrected you already on the second thingy.

I do find it weird as well that there are queens but also it doesn't add up to the amount of scum. Also would it be that obvious that the game could be broken D1 with a full name claim?

Riddle me this as well: How come Gheb's safe-claim was a princess as well? I.e. Princess Ruto.

Hmmm....

Nominate: Swiss

Yea, this feels right after reading what Nabe has pointed out.

lol no.

Midna is from Twilight Princess as the Princess of the Twilight Realm. She is def a bad*** character. Didn't consider her evil but it makes sense I guess.

No, I'm nominating Swiss to BE lynched.

Silly Nabe being funny.

No, but you don't post any substance or even attempt to defend yourself when I have seen you viewing for quite some time.

If you are town, I wouldn't be sad about your ML.

Why don't you tell us why we shouldn't lynch you, who we should lynch, who is the scum-team in your eyes, how are you town, what do you think of the posts toDay, what posts stick out to you from the entire game, etc.?

That'd be a good place to start.

Gova, I do want answers for these ya know. I didn't ask them just to ask them.

*bumpity bump bump*

Hello? >.> Where is everyone?

You know what? I'm willing to risk it. There is no reason AT ALL to not lynch Gova.


Vote: Gova

So Gova your scum reads are Circus/J/Nabe?

What is the team? You have your vote on me so I must be one of them.

But which of Nabe or Circus is my partner? What do you think of the fact that both Nabe/Circus think I am town.

Why do you have a "solid" town read on Swiss that you are sticking to?

Gova, you honestly don't know WHY people think you are scummy?

1.) Not answered.
2.) Scum-team not known but made vague.
3.) You refused to tell us why you are town.
4.) You didn't comment on the posts toDay besides one post that you thought you agreed with about Nabe pointing out your scumminess.
5.) You didn't point out any posts this game that strike you as odd and dodge it again.



Well let me rephrase "arrogant" to simply not-caring and acting tough.

Also if you want me lynched, present a case on me, show some effort, DO SOMETHING.

How about if you make a case on me I'll make a case on you? Sound fair?

Or if I present a case on you, you present a case on me?

This is the weirdest part of your entire post.

Did you know Circus was actually defending you and waiting on you to post something substantial before an affirmative action was taken? You also try and draw a very weak connection of Nabe/Circus by saying you think Circus is defending Nabe properly but not you.

Did you know Circus has 100 posts and Gova only has 81.

I actually wanna do a side-by-side comparison. Circus came in at the beginning of D4 which was 14 days ago while Gova you have been here for pri much 2 months. Why does Circus have that many more posts than you? Also I wouuld like to point out that Circus' posts are not just tiny one liners that exceed Gova's but stuff that actually has material.

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I'll get to doing one on Circus next.

But everyone should look over all of these posts that Gova has made throughout the game and remember the days that these happened on. I'll be writing up a summary on pri much the entire bulk of these posts but re-reading them only affirms my scum read on Gova.

@Bolded: You seriously need to re-evaluate how you play this game. Your train of thought is just horrible and is ALL about you and how you are 100% right. You do know this game is a game of persuasion right? You have to persuade us WHY someone is scum and persuade us WHY we should trust you/believe you are town. Your point falls on deaf ears as well since you have been not really scum-hunting at all or putting your own neck on the line. Again, WHY should we believe you?

So you are refusing to present a case on me until I present one on you?



Please read and quit lurking.



I am not using post count to determine alignment, I am using the CONTENT located within the amount of posts. Honestly, looking back at your posts, there are no stellar or good town point posts. I'll save most of this for when I get to it.

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Comparing Gova to Circus is like comparing Night and Day.

Please read over these as well and do a comparison between the two.

I might as well do one for Nabe/Swiss when I get up in the morning.... (z_z) I need some sleep.

Why do you admit being openly antagonistic towards a single player? Do you think that's a good thing to admit to?

Circus, I see Swiss scum. More like team Gova/Swiss. However there is no way to swing a Swiss lynch toDay because of the fact that 1.) Chibo will not remove his vote off of Nabe. 2.) Both Nabe AND Gova think Swiss is the towniest town of them all. *disregarding Chibo* 3.) Swiss will not self-vote.

Therefore the only two people that we have left is you and I.

We only have three days left~

Kay, time to do that finding all of Nabe's and Swiss' posts.

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I just realized, Gova OMGUS'd me o_o

At least we still have 9 more days of discussion cause at the rate of these posts we are gonna go wonders.

Why is no one commenting on anything? *facepalm*

Swiss, stop phoning in content like you have all game. You're just as bad as Gova except you have been more joking in your posts and your constant need to get me lynch.

Nabe, where is you duder? D=

Circus, I need you ;_;

Gova, do I even have to say anything? I mean you technically claimed V/LA but if you come back with little change and you stay the same then I doubt anything will change my mind from you.

Chibo, you should vote Gova if not him Swiss. Nabe is not the lynch toDay. I'll give reasons for why I believe the scum-team is Gova/Swiss.

I'm gonna do Swiss then Chibo then Myself for good measure next.

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"Am I known for pushing easy lynches as scum OR town? I am not, why would you imply this? You know I see scum play as an art."

This is not in anyway loaded. It is a reasonably simple question. I did ask you a loaded question, though.



It was a skeleton post because I didn't hotlink the page references. If you have a problem with the actual content or think incorrect inferences were made, point these out. Actually don't, because I'll ignore it.

Chibo became an easy target because of my actions. Yes Chibo had some heat on him...what's your point? Unless you are saying the majority of town were wrong to suspect him.....? (Note, wrong to suspect him, regardless of whether they want to lynch him or not)



You have no idea why I voted Kuz?

Yet another ******.

My vote is still on Kuz. But my vote/consent of hammer will soon be switching to Chibo because the Kuz wagon somehow lost momentum. We do actually have to lynch people here. Chibo is by no means a bad lynch, but Kuz is so much better.




Explain bolded.



Claiming doc after faking a restriction which encourages scum NK's. If he'd wanted to look scummy, he'd have gone and played scummily, not faking a restriction and then getting caught in a lie.

Why is OS not a town read for me? Where did I say this? I did not. What purpose does this serve? Swiss VS OS?

Explain how and why I am buddying X1, is it because his reads are somehow decent (save DH)? Is buddying scummy? If X1 flipped scum would you pressure me? Explain why you do not accuse me of buddying other players who's reads I also share (e.g. OS who according to you, isn't a town read for me). What differentiates these players?

You want me to explain why X1 is pushing DH. Rofl.




The difference being my secondary lynch is about to die. I have no reason to push him further. Chibo according to you is town, so do something.





Expand on this, especially with your stance, opinions on Nabe.


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I know Swiss can't be scum with Chibo as I know Swiss can't be scum with myself. The reason I am doing this is because it one shows that no one can talk themselves out of a lie anymore now that everything they have ever said in this game is in the open in one entire post, two it proves connections made between the people they have associated with (this is a crucial reason to include Chibo/Myself in the mix of my posts as well) and this more or less helps me when I need to make a crucial decision and I think I'm gonna make a habit to do this everytime I am in MYLO or LYLO because last time I did it I nailed scum on the final day we could lynch. ^^ Idk it's something I like to do and helps me.



Cute.



;____; everyone so mean to J.

Ugggggggh I don't wanna do myself because that's close to 300 posts ;_;

At least it's not Zen's....oh dear lord.

Anyways after I plan all this I plan to say something most likely if I remember.

Nooooooooooooooooo T_T

I was on D5 then my mouse did something stupid and closed all my tabs......

*starts back at Post 1 o' mine*

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[#HBC | J]

The coding in that came out not as expected and I even previewed it before hand >.>

Next is vote patterns.

Then my thoughts.

 

[#HBC | J]

Gova

Day 1

1.) Vote: Kuzi
2.) Unvote; Vote: Kuzi

Day 2

No votes at all

Day 3

No votes at all

Day 4

No votes at all

Day 5

1.) Vote: J

Circus

Day 4

1.) Vote: Swiss

Day 5

No votes at all

Nabe

Day 1

1.) Unvote, Vote: Chibo

Day 2

1.) Unvote, Vote: Gheb
2.) Unvote, Vote: J

Day 3

No votes at all

Day 4

1.) Unvote, Vote: J

Day 5

No votes at all

Swiss

Day 1

1.) Vote: Chibo
2.) Unvote, Vote: Kuz

Day 2

1.) Vote: J
2.) Unvote: Vote: J

Day 3

1.) Vote: Gheb

Day 4

1.) Vote: Circus
2.) Unvote, Vote: J

Day 5

1.) Vote: Gova

Chibo

Day 1

No votes at all

Day 2

1.) Vote: Zen
2.) Unvote, Vote: OS
3.) Unvote, Vote: J

Day 3

1.) Vote: Gheb

Day 4

1.) Vote: Nabe

Day 5

1.) Vote: Nabe

J

Day 1

1.) Vote: Tom
2.) Vote: Gova
3.) Unvote
4.) Vote: Circus (Mentos at the time)
5.) Unvote, Vote: Nabe
6.) Unvote, Vote: Chibo
7.) Unvote

Day 2

1.) Vote: Nabe

Day 3

No votes at all

Day 4

1.) Vote: Glyph
2.) Unvote, Vote: Gova
3.) Unvote, Vote: Gova
4.) Unvote, Vote: Swiss
5.) Unvote, Vote: Gova

Day 5

1.) Nominate: Gova
2.) Nominate: Swiss
3.) Vote: Gova


Colors mean absolutely nothing.

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh forgot one of Chibo's but it's Unvote after he voted Nabe on D5.

 

[#HBC | J]

Okay so I am gonna just expell from my mind what my current thoughts are on who I think is scum and who I think should be lynched personally. It might get a little tangenty and a little just randomness but it's cuz I am just extrapolating on my thought process.

Gova

This section is gonna be mostly about him and why I think he is scum. The entire game Gova has not made posts that really call anyone out as scum except now near the end which is Day 5. His voting pattern proves this because he has not voted ONCE besides to go along with the Kuzi lynch even when he had his vote on him from RVS already and his OMGUS vote on me toDay. In fact most of his entire game this game is playing along the sidelines and just not doing much of anything to stick out his neck and tell everyone who his scum-picks are. He, because of this, has not left a vote trail of whom he thought is scum. He has "declared" as we will so gently put it that I am scum however what has he done to show that I am scum yet this entire game? He has not presented a case on me. He has not been voting me all game or anything. He hasn't brought up quotes he doesn't like. All he does is say that I am scum. Yet he has never been able to answer fully, Why is J scum? Personally, I think it's because he can't and he is hiding behind the brutish force of who has been calling me scum all game. One thing that annoys me about his play this game is his complete inconsistency with providing info or giving anything stable. He has already acquired three prods (iirc might just be two but nonetheless still too much) and shows to be actively avoiding this game. Why would he be avoiding this game so dag on much but when he comes in from an elongated period of absence he has nothing new to offer and uses recycled thoughts said by everyone. I don't think I have seen him ever support his thoughts with evidence that coincides with what he is saying. Ever since I have caught heat from Gheb/Zen/Swiss/X1-12 he has been the little leech that has been on the path to get me lynched but he has never specifically voted me nor has he ever even dropped so much as a petty FoS my way. He has admitted to openly jeering at me and says that most of his one-liners are just little attacks at me which is proven by himself saying so and the quotes in his PBU (Post Bring Up). Now let us look at how he has played as a whole. Most of his posts consist of tiny little one-liners that don't have anything at all and when he does post something, it's repetitive and nothing right at all. He has made blanket statements calling people scum. He has said lightly that he thinks they are scum but he has made no effort whatsoever to persue them and say that they are scum and do some scum-hunting. When asked for reads, it's like pulling teeth because he shows active un-will to give them. Most of Gova's reads end up appearing null, my thoughts are because he is trying to not step on any toes and openly call someone scum. Can anyone say they have seen Gova do something active by himself in which he has taken the initive to scum-hunt or at least do something at all? No they cannot because then they would be lieing. ToDay he has posted the most he has the entire game. Yes it may seem like he posted alot D1 and D2 but most if not all were retalition posts in response to what some people were saying about him. However you know what is funny when compared to some things said this game? I have been pushing Gova for quite sometime now and specifically stated that I find him scum for his unwillingness to co-operate, lack of scum-hunting, and overall attitude he has towards this game but then these happen together.

You know what? I'm willing to risk it. There is no reason AT ALL to not lynch Gova.


Vote: Gova

Sup, J, Why am I scum? I have failed to see an explanation from you. Lol, as for your questions, you shouldn't lynch me because I'm town. I'm not going to make a case on why I'm town if that's what you're expecting. We should definitly lynch you, like the whole

Vote: J

and everything. The only noteable post today to me was when Nabe posted Gheb's color coded read list which from my POV means Gheb is definitely bussing his other two scum mates and that's why I have been having a hard time trying to make my mind up about the second scum mate. I still think it's likely Circus, though could be Nabe but I feel less likely that to be the case. Swiss is town and I'm sticking to that read as well.

Circus, when two scum when two scum are the only lynch choices for a day, and you're one of the scum that is a lynch choice, what do you do? Also, what do you think is scummy about me? Seems like you're willing to lynch me without a case, but you weren't willing to lynch Nabe without one. Kinda curious about this. Also, why is that statement scummy? I'm having a hard time pinning down my relative "scumminess" as I feel people have been flipping on whether I'm town or not all game. Also, what are the general reasons you find me scummy, and why do you think J finds me scummy?

I finally vote Gova toDay and say that I want to risk the game on his lynch, his very next post is calling me out and finally after calling me scum all game and presenting apparantly why I am scum, I should be lynched. Why does he only vote me when voted but all the other times he felt no need to? Also this post shows no pushing people to vote for me or no furthering the reasoning why I am scum nor any reason to persue me besides him just saying that he is gonna vote me and that I should be lynched. It lacks almost everything to push a lynch so why even vote if it does nothing at all! He only posts this because he was provoked. Most of his game has been like this, All Bark and No Bite is a perfect way to describe him. He is like "Grrrr J is so scum, lynch him!" but in reality it is like this when looked at through a better persepective, "Grrrr J is so scum, lynch him!" which in reality is weak. His entire call-out on me as scum is weak when I can back up my thoughts with proof. All my proof is located throughout his entire posts this game, there is really not a single one that shows town incentive or town caring but more of an anti-town aura in which isn't helpful but put on the guise of being helfpul when asked. One point he makes which I find appalling is his resistance to make a case for why we should not lynch him and for why he is town and that it is our job to not be well I'm gonna paraphrase the way I took it, "stupid enough to lynch him." Why should he not make a case for us as to why we shouldn't lynch him? If he was town then he should realize the urgency of not being lynched because of the fact that we are one ML away from losing this game. If he was truly town then he'd do quite a few things actually, he would present who should be lynched with supported evidence, tell us why we should not lynch him, why he is town specifically, and tell us who the scum-team is then be completely vague about it. Yes, he has attempted to do this but it has not really done anything at all but just something incredibly tiny meant to please me and my questioning of him. It didn't please me but instead I wanted to see if he would give more then just the bare minimum which he hasn't done.

Can anyone tell me why we should not lynch Gova?

Circus, if you want Swiss lynched present a case on him. You have shown hesitancy in lynching Gova, how about now? You should really get to work because I cannot hold them off forever as to why I think you are town.

Nabe, if you want Circus lynched present a case on him. Question, why did you ask me if I was okay to lynch Swiss toDay instead of Gova because you have said that you thought Swiss to be town and you would continue to say this. Are you still thinking this? Do you think the scum team has some relation to Circus correct?

Swiss, if you want J lynched present a case on him. Also explain why you are on Gova. Do you find him to be my scum-buddy? If so, why? If you want me truly lynched and you think I am scum and have been so sure on me, then why in the hell are you following me in lynching Gova? Answer this now.

Chibo, if you want Nabe lynched present a case on him. Unless you are staying consistent to the changing your mind thing then please tell us whom you think is the scum-team because that last post was pri vague in regards to your thoughts.

Also as Chibo has pointed out it is clear that the scum-team cannot be Circus/Nabe. One of Circus/Nabe can still be scum but they cannot be together otherwise they would have alpha struck Gova.

Chibo is not scum because he is confirmed town by the mod.

Spoiler

Well if I wanted to I could still get him lynched because apparantly mod-confirmed town still means they can be scum in some games cuz some people are just dat good at convincing. Lol j/k Nabe

In the end to gather from this post? I think Gova is scum and I want him lynched. He is the one I have the strongest read on and I am willing to risk it all on him. With a tier of who is scummy to least scummy it goes as so:

Most to Least

Gova
Swiss
Nabe
Circus
Chibo *claim*
J *cuz me too awesome =3*

I don't know why but I am so confident on Gova flipping scum it isn't even funny.

 

[#HBC | J]

Kay that was my post on Gova, there is no reason at all for him not to destroy that post and also make a couple of cases as well, if he does not then it is a sign of giving up.

There is also no reason as to why anyone should not comment.

 

[Circus]

I'm more than down for lynching Gova. I'd make a case for Swiss, but I feel like I've already said why I want him lynched a million times by now. Plus, at this point, I don't care if it's Swiss or Gova toDay. I just want to see a flip.

He said he had mid-terms today and yesterday, which was his excuse for not posting in here. But he's been posting elsewhere since then, and he was even online just a little while ago. I get that mafia takes some time and effort that posting in other places doesn't, but still. He's avoiding this game and I'm sick of waiting around for what's never coming. I'm over it.

J's post sums up Gova pretty well (if not entirely elegantly ), so I'm good with this.

Vote: Gova

Chibo, Nabe, hammer when ready. If this loses us the game, then it's been a pleasure playing with you all.

 

[#HBC | J]

Unvote

Nonono don't hammer when ready Circus. Goodness, if anything I'll hammer Gova because it should be my fault if we lose the game since I made the case on him. Chibo/Nabe, one of you take my spot on the lynch line. I am not going to be hammering till Gova says something w.r.t. my case but he needs to feel the pressure of being at L-1, maybe if he sees the threat of actually being lynched by the sound of my call, then maybe he will post something good.

 

[#HBC | J]

I swear, sometimes I think it's just me and Circus in this game.

This game needs bumping cuz of how low it is on the page already and I'm bored as all else.

 

[#HBC | J]

Hey Swiss, I see you viewing DGames alot today, why not view in here and post some thoughts while you are at it?

 

[Swiss]

I'm voting Gova.

You have been, are and always will be my top scum pick.

There are two scum remaining.

Take a wild guess what my thoughts are.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm voting Gova.

You have been, are and always will be my top scum pick.

There are two scum remaining.

Take a wild guess what my thoughts are.

.......please tell me you are kidding in this post. It is so contradictory for such a tiny amount of sentences.

You are voting Gova, J is your top scum pick though.

There are two scum remaining, herp derp.

*takes a wild guess*

You have absolutely no thoughts whatsoever and gonna continue being contradictory to the point of making me wanna lynch you over Gova correct?

Why not make a case on me if I am so scum? Scared?

 

[Swiss]

That was a rhetorical question, FYI.

MLG unvote btw. Why was that again? Because you want to be the hammer? K.

Unvote

Nonono don't hammer when ready Circus. Goodness, if anything I'll hammer Gova because it should be my fault if we lose the game since I made the case on him. Chibo/Nabe, one of you take my spot on the lynch line. I am not going to be hammering till Gova says something w.r.t. my case but he needs to feel the pressure of being at L-1, maybe if he sees the threat of actually being lynched by the sound of my call, then maybe he will post something good.

I understand and appreciate the logic behind this post. I tilt my hat at your nobility. It is 'your' lynch after all. So when Gova flips scum. You're deffo town, right?

Glad we got that sorted. I for one am shocked I ever doubted your alignment.

 

[#HBC | J]

That was a rhetorical question, FYI.

MLG unvote btw. Why was that again? Because you want to be the hammer? K.

I understand and appreciate the logic behind this post. I tilt my hat at your nobility. It is 'your' lynch after all. So when Gova flips scum. You're deffo town, right?

Glad we got that sorted. I for one am shocked I ever doubted your alignment.

Drop the dripping sarcasm and give me content.

Why should we not just lynch you?

 

[Swiss]

.......please tell me you are kidding in this post. It is so contradictory for such a tiny amount of sentences.

You are voting Gova, J is your top scum pick though.

There are two scum remaining, herp derp.

*takes a wild guess*

You have absolutely no thoughts whatsoever and gonna continue being contradictory to the point of making me wanna lynch you over Gova correct?

Why not make a case on me if I am so scum? Scared?

You are suggesting I vote away from Gova? Elaborate.

Was that an attempt at a taunt? You'll have to spell it out for me.

 

[#HBC | J]

If you think I am your biggest scum-pick, why are you not pushing me in MYLO if you truly think I am scummier then Gova? Why did you bandwagon whatever I did and just say "Lol kay we lynching Gova, cool. J still super scum though."

 

[#HBC | J]

Also if you got from that unvote that I only unvoted to be the hammerer than you need to quit trying and misconstrue actions and read them correctly.

 

[Swiss]

Drop the dripping sarcasm and give me content.

Why should we not just lynch you?

I'd never be sarcastic to you, oh wonderful master.

This is an irrelevant question considering, to the best of my knowledge, none of Nabe, Chibo and Gova are willing to lynch me anyway. I do admit a grudging appreciation for how you, yet again, refer to yourself as 'we' (yourself and Clown). Good to have a friend, isn't it. Better keep him on your side.

If you think I am your biggest scum-pick, why are you not pushing me in MYLO if you truly think I am scummier then Gova? Why did you bandwagon whatever I did and just say "Lol kay we lynching Gova, cool. J still super scum though."

Why am I voting for someone I believe to be half the scum team? Why am I voting for the more realistic of the two lynches I want? It doesn't matter if we lynch scum-Gova toDay if we cannot ALSO find his buddy. We need consecutive scum lynches. So it's irrelevant what order the lynches happen.

Also if you got from that unvote that I only unvoted to be the hammerer than you need to quit trying and misconstrue actions and read them correctly.

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I got it from when you took direct credit for the Gova case..... and so by proxy credit for his potential scum flip.

...............

How can one man be so obtuse?

Die toMorrow.

 

[Swiss]

AND LET ME SLEEP AARRRGH

SLEEP SWISS SLEEP


caps

 

[#HBC | J]

Yea you def need sleep cuz these last couple posts of yours are terribad.

 

[CT Chia]

I don't really have any thoughts on potential pairings yet. Would you mind doing one of your vote trends for Gheb? That's what is important.

Also J's case on Gova is good an all, but it's better to have cases from those not involved in the trifecta here, but it's good to keep in mind J's stance on it, since if Gova does flip scum it makes J look more town. But really, we know what's up with Gova mostly, so it doesn't really matter.

Why are people so weird about who does the hammer and who cost town the game. Who cares. If town loses it's towns fault, no one elses. Not a specific person for a hammer. I think we're all mostly agreed on what's going to happen at the end of the day (Gova being lynched).

 

[#HBC | J]

I feel a very OMGUS case coming from someone viewing, with insults.

 

[Gova]

Uh, @ Circus, you can't just expect me to write a response overnight. I am working on my response/case though.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Content with a Gova lynch and a Swiss lynch. Gova's play is inexcusable though. I'm actually content with any lynch aside from J and myself, but those two are the ones that will get somewhere.

I'm in a position where I really want to push a Chibo lynch, but it's really not worth the effort and no one will buy it anyway. If you're scum, GG.

 

[#HBC | J]

Content with a Gova lynch and a Swiss lynch. Gova's play is inexcusable though. I'm actually content with any lynch aside from J and myself, but those two are the ones that will get somewhere.

I'm in a position where I really want to push a Chibo lynch, but it's really not worth the effort and no one will buy it anyway. If you're scum, GG.

I honestly can't blame you for Chibo but I just cannot fathom him being scum from personal reads and the fact he is Peach and his mason partner not only confirmed him but so did the mod with a mod-closed mason flip of Glyph. If he is then bravo.

Why are you content with anyone's lynch minus mine?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Because you're town. My D1 read had you as scum, but subsequently I've read you leaning town. Viable pairings are Circus/J and Swiss/J. Gova/J is seemingly unlikely or not possible. You might be worth looking at on a Swiss scum flip, but Circus lynch isn't going to happen. It makes no sense to pursue you to any extent toDay.

 

[#HBC | J]

I like that answer alot.

Gova keeps disappearing, I feel like I want to put him at L-1 again >.>

 

[Circus]

Uh, @ Circus, you can't just expect me to write a response overnight. I am working on my response/case though.

Frankly, I don't think I really believe you. And I didn't expect you to write up a big response in one night, but it has been several nights. And you've been online.

Nabe, I'm really confused as to why you would even consider Chibo an option at this point. He's as confirmed town as confirmed town gets without seeing a flip.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well Circus there is nothing we can really do but wait and see what is going to happen.

Maybe he'll come back?

 

[Circus]

I'm just sick of waiting. Gova's clearly stalling, and it's holding the game up for no reason other than to stave off what is, at this point, almost inevitable.

 

[#HBC | J]

Circus, I really can't blame your being sick of waiting on Gova. Quite frankly I am and I know already what his case is gonna do/say.

- OMGUS J and call him scum
- Say the scum-team is J/Circus or J/Nabe
- Say Swiss/Chibo are the towniest of town
- Give weak reasonings as to why he is town because there is really nothing to paint him in a town-light.
- Insults the main person attacking him and insults to those wanting to lynch him on what he will call "weak reasoning" when in reality it isn't
- Excuses and a bit of AtE as to why we should not lynch him

Followed by:

- Me pointing out Gova's flaws in his posts
- The Gova lynch still going to go through
- Circus/Nabe/Chibo point out little flaws they see as well
- Me defending myself again
- Swiss most likely saying Gova is town cuz of his defense

Profit?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Chibo isn't confirmed town. Like I said, looked for a confirmation from Glyph that they were confirmed town to each other, nothing. I still have suspicions about my original Peachscum thought. And I find it odd that, as he says, he's been the first of Rockin's main-game characters that have been characters in-game, rather than mod guides etc. which causes me to wonder if it's not a fakeclaim, or if the inclusion of Peach in this game means that she's scum.

His play this game has been poor. It took him several times to see what J and I had been telling him w.r.t. my character, enough so that he'd stop endangering the game by tunneling. The way he unvoted me was almost nodular, with no reference whatsoever to those events, and looked hella suspicious.

All that said, I'm not pursuing it and imo if he's scum, GG to him. And everyone else is comfortable with leaving him alone. So the matter is settled.

 

[#HBC | J]

What Nabe is saying about Peach being a safe-claim is plausible especially with two characters that have impersonated Peach or took over Peach's body to become the main villainess which are these two:

Shadow princess from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. Steals her body to perpetuate evil into the world of mario

Princess Shroob who mimics Peach by simply putting on a wig in Mario & Luigi: Partner's in Time

Those are the only way Peach can be an evil character but even then it's still very very weird and honestly I don't believe it and I think we should stick to scum-hunting over flavour hunting w.r.t. Chibo vs. Gova.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

^^^^^ Which were my thoughts exactly.

As much as I'd love to win bet the game on flavour, no one is going to go for it.

 

[#HBC | J]

Hmmmm *thinks about it*

Nononono just no. No.

I'm sticking with Gova/Swiss.

Well Nabe who are you gonna vote for? Gova or Chibo in the end?

 

[Rockin]

Mafia Royal Sleepover

Gova (2) - Swiss, Circus

J (1) - Gova,

Not Voting - Nabe, Chibo, J

It takes 4/6 to lynch. Deadline is March 31st, 2011

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

What?

I wasn't asking you to consider Chibo. Like I said, it's over and done with.

Why would I vote for Chibo when I clearly just said I won't be? And why is my only other option Gova?

 

[#HBC | J]

I misunderstood the Chibo bit.

Well can you convince us of another lynch i.e. Circus/Swiss as you have expressed willing to lynch them as well. I mean you can vote for whom you want but the lynch pretty much is set in stone.

Also I'm tired of waiting, if Nabe is scum here is your chance to win.

Vote: Gova

 

[#HBC | J]

Actually Nabe post something but don't hammer.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Swiss