Mafia Royal Sleepover - The Party has been Crashed! Mafia Wins!

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@glyph

DO you think scum didn't have their safeclaims on paper.

@gheb

That DOES seem like a good plan....


unvote

Will see what evidence against J is, considering the demand.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Are you asking me if I think scum planned out their safeclaims? Or if they had records of them? I really don't know what you're getting at there.

Regardless, when you're claiming you should want to take care to make it flawless, be it your real claim or a fake one. Otherwise someone might find a hole in it and get you lynched.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Glyph, what did you mean by the bolded?

I agreed with OS's point he made about Gheb thinking DH was anti-town but not scum.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Glyph, scum safeclaims and townie role names were not typed with different things. How is it anti-town that I dent remember my role name correctly?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I agreed with OS's point he made about Gheb thinking DH was anti-town but not scum.

What point? I don't see anything I left unclear.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Glyph, scum safeclaims and townie role names were not typed with different things. How is it anti-town that I dent remember my role name correctly?

Because you should have checked to make sure it was right in the first place imo. Your disregard for accurate information is what is off to me.

What point? I don't see anything I left unclear.

Gheb that's an old quote from when I had only read that one page, and you said that DH was playing anti-town and then also said he wasn't scum.

 

[Overswarm]

Glyph, read Dark Horse's play as Cyan in FF6 mafia.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Because you should have checked to make sure it was right in the first place imo. Your disregard for accurate information is what is off to me.

GLyph,"accurate information" is not something to be concerned about, "important iformation" is.

I could really care less about a princess's name that i've never heard about.

 

[Rockin]

Mafia Royal Sleepover

J (3) - Gheb, Swiss, Glyph

Gheb (3) OS, Zen, Nabe

Nabe (1) - J

Overswarm (1) - Chibo

Not Voting - Mentos, Gova, Dark Horse

Deadline is Feb 25th 2011 on 11:59 PM. It takes 6/11 votes for a lynch

Gova and J have been prodded

 

[CT Chia]

Would rather see J lynched than Gheb as said before

Unvote Vote J

 

[Gova]

The thing about crumbs is dumb to me. I can't see anyone actively searching out words or phrases even with ctrl+f.

@Glyph, what exactly about OS' case was convincing to you?

@Nabe, earlier when you mentioned J was playing similar to BaF, we're you implying that he was scummy? Confused about this because you said you've thought J was town earlier in the game. Also, how has Gheb's play become increasingly scummy? I thought you said he was townie earlier toDay as well.

GLyph,"accurate information" is not something to be concerned about, "important iformation" is.

I could really care less about a princess's name that i've never heard about.

This is wrong imo. You should want all information to be correct regardless of how important you think it is. Mis-information is more dangerous than no information after all.

This part is opinionated. The bolded. It was in the post I quote....? So yes it is true. Your statement is opiniated in which you say that I could not have possibly gotten what kuzi has done to determine he is town. Did you know two players have a trust system in which they state clearly wether they are town or not before the game starts? How can anyone believe this besides the two? You were trying to dissuade me from using meta in this post and the post I firstly addressed.

If two players had a system where they could determine that the other was town before the game started, they would be cheating. Unless of course their role's allow them to talk before the game starts and are confirmed town to each other via role PM. I was in no way trying to dissuade you from using meta. I did not say, "J stop using meta." I am simply stating my opinion that I don't like the reasons for which you found him town.

This does not give you the excuse to input and just skate on by and wait.

Of course not but, the quote below does.

What? That is a completely opinionized reason and holds no air.

I assume by "holds no air" that my opinion is worthless to you. In that case, I can't ever offer input like you want me to since it would be worthless anyways. If I don't have my opinion what am I supposed to contribute with?

But by saying that you are accusing me as scum, correct?

You quoted a post I made, but referenced said quote as "posted by OS".

Point it out then....?

No, at least not with that. If I want to call you scum I would just openly state it. It's not that hard. I'm just quoting myself where I posted it originally so you can see.

J - I didn't really like the way he came into the game after being V/LA. Like someone pointed out earlier he just came in and asked others to ask him questions and it felt to me like he was trying to make some people look bad when they just ignored him. I thought he would be scum if Kuz is because of his defence of Kuz saying he was bad at D1 play but that fell through now that he has claimed Doc. I guess he's null to me for now.

 

[Overswarm]

I can't see anyone actively searching out words or phrases even with ctrl+f.

Just saying, I do this every game. How do people not? Ctrl+F "watch" or "friend" or things like that, you learn a lot.


Chibo, unvote J and vote for Gheb. J is not the play toDay by any means. Tomorrow maybe, but not toDay. Gheb is scum. J is scummy. There's a difference.

 

[Overswarm]

Deadline is Feb 25th 2011 on 11:59 PM. It takes 6/11 votes for a lynch


Gheb is L-2.

Lynch him ASAP.

Deadline is ~8 hours away. people aren't going to get on very soon. We aren't switching to J.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Nabe, earlier when you mentioned J was playing similar to BaF, we're you implying that he was scummy? Confused about this because you said you've thought J was town earlier in the game. Also, how has Gheb's play become increasingly scummy? I thought you said he was townie earlier toDay as well.

J playing similarly to B&F implies he's playing similarly to B&F. It's a non-provable meta point, I just didn't really like his play.

Gheb has gotten scummier as the Day has gone on, by way of escalating AtE etc, this has been covered at great length.

 

[Overswarm]

More importantly, the 4 on Gheb aren't going to be switching. Those on J have been moving their votes around.

So, Gheb flip necessary.

 

[Xivii]

Gova, Mentos. The hell?

 

[Rockin]

Mafia Royal Sleepover

J (4) - Gheb, Swiss, Glyph, Chibo

Gheb (3) OS, Zen, Nabe

Nabe (1) - J

Not Voting - Mentos, Gova, Dark Horse

Deadline is Feb 25th 2011 on 11:59 PM. It takes 6/11 votes for a lynch

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Deadline in 2 hours.
Unvote, Vote: J

Hammer now.

 

[Rockin]

Mafia Royal Sleepover

J (5) - Gheb, Swiss, Glyph, Chibo, Nabe

Gheb (2) OS, Zen

Nabe (1) - J

Not Voting - Mentos, Gova, Dark Horse

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flavor would start up soon. Please give me a moment.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Super FoS Mentos for catastrophically dumb failure to vote anybody toDay at all.

Gova, please don't be worst semi-clear ever. You're on Skype virtually all the time and the deadline was announced very clearly ... you couldn't have missed it. Or anybody else who wasn't there for that matter. But your absence particularly hurts because your opinion is easier to trust than anybody else's.

DH, what had you hesitating to vote J? I read pro-town intentions out of your willingness to compromise and cooperate. If you have a reason to not vote him or to believe he's town it would've been good if you told us. We had plenty of time left to switch to scumtosman.

 

[Swiss]

So I thought we weren't allowed to post now.

Cool.

J toMorrow no questions asked. Cop investigate J, Gheb, Nabe or Gova. Who replaced Chibo?

Pro lynch guys.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gheb, the reason I didn't vote him was I first wanted to see what people had thought against him. AAt the time I said that, there was still time left. HOwever, I couldn't vote around the deadline becauseI was at a jazz competition.

SWiss, theoretically it's twilight..

 

[#HBC | J]

At another NL in Rockin's game.

 

[Swiss]

DH I decided to think it was night, for reasons beyond my understanding.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Rockin didn't officially announce anything but since we're supposed to wait for the flavor there's probably no twilight [unless twilight has flavor, which it didn't yesterDay] - at least "officially". Since Rockin didn't post the flavor and deadline's up anyway we might as well treat this as our "twilight".

DH, I'd still like to hear your stance on J.

 

[#HBC | J]

Zen, why didn't you hammer me or vote me at all?

 

[CT Chia]

So I thought we weren't allowed to post now.

Cool.

J toMorrow no questions asked. Cop investigate J, Gheb, Nabe or Gova. Who replaced Chibo?

Pro lynch guys.

Uhhh what? I didn't replace out

 

[Swiss]

J, regardless of Zen's opinion on you, would it have been better for him (or indeed another person) to hammer you, avoiding the NL?

 

[#HBC | J]

Yes yes yes 1,000x yes.

NL'ing is one of the most anti-town things you can do.

 

[Swiss]

So why didn't you self hammer?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Swiss, before I answer, that, I need two things answered:

J, why did you never restate how zen was town?
J, why did You ignore my first post today concerning OS/Gheb when talking about my attack on Gheb?

At the current situaion, J is a null/leaning scum. I still tinkthat there are scummier people.

 

[Swiss]

Answer what?

Do you know how to use commas?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Answer what?

Do you know how to use commas?

I think he's referring to my question towards him but got the names confused. The way I see things he wants J to answer his questions before he can answer mine.

 

[Xivii]

sigh sigh sigh -_-...

@J: wasnt online

 

[Overswarm]

Hey guys, good news! No one went to hammer Gheb.

That means when Gheb flips scum, we can assume there was no more than one scum on his wagon! :B

 

[#HBC | J]

So why didn't you self hammer?

You know my feelings on self-hammering and my exp. with it plus if you check the social I have been having CPU problems the past couple of days and hence haven't been able to get on and post anything. Hence why I received a prod as well for my absence.

J, why did you never restate how zen was town?
J, why did You ignore my first post today concerning OS/Gheb when talking about my attack on Gheb?

At the current situaion, J is a null/leaning scum. I still tinkthat there are scummier people.

Dark Horse, I wrote an entire post regarding my Zen read and why I believe he is town. If you refuse to read why when I stated it in an explained format; that is your problem. Please actually go READ what I said and not just ignore it and say "why haven't you restated it?" It's located in that monster of a post.
What? I was adressing your one post that you said "J what do you think of my reasoning for Gheb?" Which I did.
Why am I leaning scum to you?

sigh sigh sigh -_-...

@J: wasnt online

Hmm same excuse to myself as well.

 

[Swiss]

Your feelings on self hammering are that you'd never do it.

But you just said you should have been hammered.



Which is true?

 

[#HBC | J]

-_- Really?

I didn't just said I wasn't able to for one, plus if you knew the answer to why I would not self-hammer then why ask the question?

I should have been hammered but obviously some people just decided to let it go to NL instead. I.E. OS, Mentos, Gova

 

[Swiss]

Sure, you weren't online. That's cool.

But had you been online, would have you hammered yourself? You've said you wouldn't have, but you've also said it would be the pro town course of action to have had you lynched.

Is this you claiming scum?

 

[#HBC | J]

What are you even talking about?

Yes, it would have been better if I was lynched.
No, I would not have self-hammered for my personal reasons.

Quit twisting my words.