Lunar Landing & Delayed Lunar Landing - A Rosalina Advanced Technique (Video)

[AceStarThe3rd]

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[c4p1v4r4]

This is what I call a good christmas present, nice work

 

[Smasher89]

This ixs old though but i guess itll help new players anyway, you can use the cstick to get easy luma upairs.

 

[ConCeal12]

I forgot who mentioned, but that person is right.... it should be Luma Landing :/

 

[S3R4PH]

Great video man! I'll hit the lab with this later today.

 

[Keytrun]

What's your advice for performing it with the fast fall? Are you using the c stick? Do you have c stick as smash or tilts?

 

[AceStarThe3rd]

What's your advice for performing it with the fast fall? Are you using the c stick? Do you have c stick as smash or tilts?

I usually use the C-Stick, and for Rosa, I mix it up; sometimes, tilts are better for me, other times, Smash is better.
Depends on the MU, usually; if I need to do retreating LL'd Fairs, then yea, tilts.

 

[Lavani]

Something useful to know to go along with this is what frame aerials begin to have landing lag on. For example, nair's landing lag starts on frame 3, so landing during the first two frames give you the lagless cancel and lets you do whatever while Luma attacks.

Aerial | Landing Lag Start
Nair | 3f
Fair | 8f
Bair | 5f
Uair | 2f
Dair | 4f

So, notably, you have to be frame perfect for uair, while fair is by far the most lenient.

 

[Keytrun]

I usually use the C-Stick, and for Rosa, I mix it up; sometimes, tilts are better for me, other times, Smash is better.
Depends on the MU, usually; if I need to do retreating LL'd Fairs, then yea, tilts.

Yea, I worry about all of that. I hate to have to switch c stick for tilt / smash. I'd rather just get used to one and stick with it. What do you mean retreating LL fairs? Can you explain that a little better? I'd love some combos with the LL stuff. I feel like playing online makes it a little harder to do the perfect LL because ANY lag whatsoever makes it harder. Can you explain the difference between a delayed and a perfect LL? Is there any reason to ever use the delayed one intentionally? I feel like I can do the LL easier with c stick for all LLs except when I want to go from fair LL to up tilt. I can't do that with c stick, and doing nair LL is hard too. I'm just trying to figure out how to use it in actual games.

What are your thoughts on the perfect pivot? Do you feel that c stick as tilt will become the norm because of it? Do do nair LL into up smash I really need smash c stick, same with nair into forward smash. I don't want to not be able to do the perfect pivot though. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all of this. I'm really good with toon link and decent with rosalina. I'm trying to determine which one to focus on for my main. There are already a lot of toon links but not many rosalinas because she's so hard to play correctly. I feel like a toon link just doesn't have that same top tier potential as rosa. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks - and I really liked your videos! Keep it up!

 

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So I really like this guide, does perfectly explain how to do this move. If I have one point of criticism it's I would've like to see some step by step instructions on some follow ups you could do. Nothing needed, but would've appreciated it. Overall excellent video.

Something useful to know to go along with this is what frame aerials begin to have landing lag on. For example, nair's landing lag starts on frame 3, so landing during the first two frames give you the lagless cancel and lets you do whatever while Luma attacks.

Aerial | Landing Lag Start
Nair | 3f
Fair | 8f
Bair | 5f
Uair | 2f
Dair | 4f

So, notably, you have to be frame perfect for uair, while fair is by far the most lenient.

Now, if someone was able to be frame perfect for uair, would it be worth it? Like are there great follow up opportunities/power from it?

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

So I really like this guide, does perfectly explain how to do this move. If I have one point of criticism it's I would've like to see some step by step instructions on some follow ups you could do. Nothing needed, but would've appreciated it. Overall excellent video.


Now, if someone was able to be frame perfect for uair, would it be worth it? Like are there great follow up opportunities/power from it?

In training mode I'm able to get uair nair and bair from an uair. It wasn't perfect but it still worked haven't tried it outside of training mode yet.

 

[AceStarThe3rd]

What do you mean retreating LL fairs? Can you explain that a little better?

What I mean is when somebody is rushing me down, I like to use LL'd Fairs while moving away from them to slip them up.

Can you explain the difference between a delayed and a perfect LL? Is there any reason to ever use the delayed one intentionally?

The difference is just the landing lag that happens during the delayed one.
Ideally, you would never actually want to use a delayed one and always a perfect one. But I mean, who's frame perfect like that?

 

[TKD]

Something useful to know to go along with this is what frame aerials begin to have landing lag on. For example, nair's landing lag starts on frame 3, so landing during the first two frames give you the lagless cancel and lets you do whatever while Luma attacks.

Aerial | Landing Lag Start
Nair | 3f
Fair | 8f
Bair | 5f
Uair | 2f
Dair | 4f

So, notably, you have to be frame perfect for uair, while fair is by far the most lenient.

Wow, thank you! This is more useful than the video lol

Does anyone know if Olimar cycles Pikmin when doing this?

 

[Keytrun]

I usually use the C-Stick, and for Rosa, I mix it up; sometimes, tilts are better for me, other times, Smash is better.
Depends on the MU, usually; if I need to do retreating LL'd Fairs, then yea, tilts.

Would you say you use smash or tilts more? Also how do tilts make retreating LL fairs easier?