Lovage Vs Vanz.. !

[Kouryuu]

But saying that "he should have won" like Sleepy and Darkatama did is plain out stupid. That statement doesn't even make sense.

I think the reason Vanz is upset is because everyone is implying that Lovage could have won if he played better which is also stupid considering how terrible Lovage is at the Peach match up.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

this whole page saddens me. I know you're all upset because your boy lost, but even before our set, we played tons of friendlies. i won about 4 of every 5 games =/

he was playing well and i respect him as player. he didn't make excuses about it and you all shouldn't either..

if you guys are still torn up about it, feel free to MM me @ genesis. maybe one of you might ACTUALLY get me to bring out the fox.

calm down. it's not that serious. no need to get butt hurt.

nonetheless, i'm shocked it went three games. i hjaven't watched the set yet, i'm about to, but i thought you were way better than that. i overestimated east coast

 

[Lovage]

dang that moonwalk was too good

ggs vanz

 

[Sleepy]

I'm wrong I admit, but still I dunno, I felt lovage did well. Yeah and people probably shouldn't listen to me much, but I do have fun playing.

 

[Kira-]

@ VaNz

they were just friendlies. isn't that rule #1?
i bet you anything oscar was just trying to be flashy and technical
and shine bairing

 

[Noble-]

Mango was right, East Coast takes everything waaay to seriously.

I mean come on, Friendlies? LOL

 

[JFox]

Usually when I play someone in friendlies for the first time from OOS, and they are close to or above my skill level, I typically try to win and not mess around cuz I wanna see how I stand when compared to this person. Granted I maybe don't play AS gay as I MIGHT in a tournament match cuz thats kinda boring, they are still pretty serious. So although they aren't the best indicator of skill, I'd say if you are absolutely ****** someone in friendlies your chances of winning are pretty high. And in this case, this held true.

Either way though, he lost in both categories and people shouldn't be johning for him. Being good in a large number of matchups is part of being a good player. If he can't handle peach (a character that fox *****) than a strong player, he's just strong in certain matchups, which happens to be the way I feel about Lovage as a player.

 

[Noble-]

Usually when I play someone in friendlies for the first time from OOS, and they are close to or above my skill level, I typically try to win and not mess around cuz I wanna see how I stand when compared to this person. Granted I maybe don't play AS gay as I MIGHT in a tournament match cuz thats kinda boring, they are still pretty serious. So although they aren't the best indicator of skill, I'd say if you are absolutely ****** someone in friendlies your chances of winning are pretty high. And in this case, this held true.

Either way though, he lost in both categories and people shouldn't be johning for him. Being good in a large number of matchups is part of being a good player. If he can't handle peach (a character that fox *****) than a strong player, he's just strong in certain matchups, which happens to be the way I feel about Lovage as a player.

Funny you say that.

A certain player can testify that when I played him in friendlies he completely destroyed me(I mean 4 stock, 3 stock etc. etc.). Then he played me in tournament, and I returned the favor.

He's strong in certain match-ups because we have those players back home in Socal. And we're not "John-ning" for him, we're just saying he doesn't have enough match-up experience with Peach. If match-up experience = John, then my bad, but I don't think it is.

Think about it, which Peach player does Lovage get to play on a regular basis?

Lovage;
1. Kouryuu(SoCal)
2. Connor(SoCal)
3. Nes(SoCal)
4. Pink Shinobo(NorCal)

How about VaNz' experience with Fox

VaNz;
1. PC
2. M2K
3. Jman
4. Eggm
5. Cactuar

The list goes on and on.

Now tell me Lovages' match-up experience = VaNz' match-up experience?

By the way, your post proved my(And MaNg0's) point.

Don't worry I'm noob at smash, I'm sure you(And any East Coast player for that matter) can beat me in a MM.

 

[Lovage]

okokok this is getting a lil out of hand LOL. vanz deserved the win and my only john is im bad at the matchup. thats it. GGS

btw jfox isnt a fox player pat

 

[pockyD]

mind games from jason fox

 

[Noble-]

My bad.

10char.

<-------Noob 100%

Sorry Oscar, it just sickens me how much East Coast thinks SoCal(And West Coast) is bad.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

okokok this is getting a lil out of hand LOL. vanz deserved the win and my only john is im bad at the matchup. thats it. GGS

btw jfox isnt a fox player pat

yes agreed

where did socal johning from you come from

 

[Noble-]

yes agreed

where did socal johning from you come from

That's what I'm wondering.

 

[Kira-]

I wasn't johning for him lol

i dont think anyone was purposely johning for him, EC just took it the wrong way. But it's understandable since there's so much tension

 

[Cia]

My bad.

10char.

<-------Noob 100%

Sorry Oscar, it just sickens me how much East Coast thinks SoCal(And West Coast) is bad.

we don't think your region is bad.. at least not anymore. Lovage, Zhu, and Mango did a good job representing you guys. but this thread is just annoying.

and Jfox's post pretty much said exactly what i was going to say regarding the friendlies. we're from opposite sides of the country. that was probably the only time we'd get to play each other. He wanted to win as much as i did.

P - overestimating the east coast.. you might be. But keep in mind, i'm only like.. 8th on the rakings. I'm good, but there are PLENTY that are better than me. I don't even think i'm going to make top 10 for Genesis crews

 

[Cactuar]

Lol. If anyone is an example of how you shouldn't take friendlies seriously, it's me. I have lost friendlies to sooo many randoms. It's always funny to me when I overhear people being like "omg I beat Cactuar's _____".


*cactusbagging*

 

[Lovage]

HADO GEIIIII

SEI SEI SEI iiIiIII

 

[Kouryuu]

Lovage's Peach training comes from Connor. =\

 

[Lovage]

wtf peach training LOL
ive played connor two matches in tourament, and kouryuu like 5 matches ever

 

[Kouryuu]

That was kinda my point.

 

[Sleepy]

I'm sorry if people feel I meant anything more than I wanted lovage to win, if vanz won he won. I just wanted to compliment lovage for his participation. I already proved I a newb and I hope you guys don't bother with my stupid posts anymore lol

 

[joeplicate]

oscar you were playing so bad

 

[ConnorTheKid]

Lovage's Peach training comes from Connor. =\

LMAO you say it like it's a bad thing









it probably is.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

lol. If Anyone Is An Example Of How You Shouldn't Take Friendlies Seriously, It's Me. I Have Lost Friendlies To Sooo Many Randoms. It's Always Funny To Me When I Overhear People Being Like "omg I Beat Cactuar's _____".


*cactusbagging*

You Sandbag So Much Its Ridiculous Man!!! Lol!!!!! oscar i can help you learn the matchup once I get into some shape again

 

[Lovage]

oscar you were playing so bad

i was playing OK
i was playing really really fast but not executing well

 

[Kouryuu]

You Sandbag So Much Its Ridiculous Man!!! Lol!!!!! oscar i can help you learn the matchup once I get into some shape again

We need to ditto for like 2 hours straight.

 

[JFox]

Socal is funny...

yes agreed

where did socal johning from you come from

That's what I'm wondering.

Youtube comments made by socal

Lovage just doesn't know the matchup.

Johns.

sleepyx7 (1 day ago) hmm I wonder what happened to oscar, I don't remember him CCing so many dsmashes back in so cal..

More johns.



My response to your johns. (Or should I say P's response to your johns)

Vyse0wnz (17 hours ago)


but not knowing the matchup is no john, it's pretty simple for fox, especially a super technical one like lovage

he just got *****

Vyse0wnz (17 hours ago)

he can't camp properly or play gay. get *****

I wasn't johning for him lol

i dont think anyone was purposely johning for him, EC just took it the wrong way. But it's understandable since there's so much tension

Vyse0wnz (17 hours ago)


socal stop johning for lovage, he got *****

God****... sometimes neighborhoodP takes the words right outta my mouth....

 

[Kouryuu]

LOL... youtube comments. I think you're trying to hard.

 

[killer tofu]

stop cyber stalking socal plz

 

[Sleepy]

so in turn, my opinion or what I said matters? haven't I already proved my statements aren't valid? Even on youtube, I was wrong, and I'm sure someone already shot what I said down for it. It's not like I'm hiding my name either under sleepyx7, or acting like everyone agrees.

 

[Noble-]

Mango was right, East Coast takes everything waaay to seriously.

What? No way!?

 

[Kouryuu]

Seriously. JFox is such an... nevermind.

 

[Gaara♥]

because i dont think everyone saw these mango vs sca r mms yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTgpTjvYCs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXN_Ffx_FUY&feature=channel

 

[NeighborhoodP]

god socal we really do sound like noobs

okay yes we were were johning. jfox called us out on it.

you repeated to insist you weren't johning. jfox continues his argument. you respond by saying EC takes everything too seriously. one, that's besides the point, and two, even if true, it doesn't apply to this situation. stfu.

 

[Little England]

because i dont think everyone saw these mango vs sca r mms yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTgpTjvYCs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXN_Ffx_FUY&feature=channel

omg yes ty!

 

[The Greater Leon]

edit in progress

 

[JFox]

because i dont think everyone saw these mango vs sca r mms yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTgpTjvYCs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXN_Ffx_FUY&feature=channel

these were pretty cool. Scar did alright considering how much of a beast mango is. i hope people from west coast realize now hope good scar is, i feel like u guys under-estimate him (lol kouryuu challenging him to a $100 MM).

Oh and LOL @ P's post. Dude i think you belong in the debate hall or somethin, you seem to like arguing a lot. you are startin to remind me too much of pockyD, both of you take arguments on smashboards pretty serious. you might wanna try exhausting some of that negative energy in the debate hall against people that are actually tryin to have a debate instead of casual nubs that don't even know the meaning of the term "logical fallacy".

 

[Sleepy]

I don't think most of us underestimate scar as a player, we just didn't like his commentary.

 

[SuperRad]

these were pretty cool. Scar did alright considering how much of a beast mango is. i hope people from west coast realize now hope good scar is, i feel like u guys under-estimate him (lol kouryuu challenging him to a $100 MM).

Oh and LOL @ P's post. Dude i think you belong in the debate hall or somethin, you seem to like arguing a lot. you are startin to remind me too much of pockyD, both of you take arguments on smashboards pretty serious. you might wanna try exhausting some of that negative energy in the debate hall against people that are actually tryin to have a debate instead of casual nubs that don't even know the meaning of the term "logical fallacy".

lol
P would hate to hear he is like pockyD
"pocky posts because he likes to hear the sound of his own voice"

doesn't sound like P at all


oh and he's banned so he can't respond to this
bummer

<3 pocky
<3 P

edit:
Scar played better in those matches then I would've expected. I'm impressed. How much were they for?
[It should be noted that in the second game of both Mango goes to work because he figures out Scar.]

 

[pockyD]

these were pretty cool. Scar did alright considering how much of a beast mango is. i hope people from west coast realize now hope good scar is, i feel like u guys under-estimate him (lol kouryuu challenging him to a $100 MM).

Oh and LOL @ P's post. Dude i think you belong in the debate hall or somethin, you seem to like arguing a lot. you are startin to remind me too much of pockyD, both of you take arguments on smashboards pretty serious. you might wanna try exhausting some of that negative energy in the debate hall against people that are actually tryin to have a debate instead of casual nubs that don't even know the meaning of the term "logical fallacy".

get over yourself jason fox, there was no reason to drag me into this

i post because i love telling people that they're wrong; if you don't care that you're wrong about something (since you're not taking it 'seriously'), which is clearly legitimately possible (for example, i don't really care if someone tries to fix my punctuation or something), then simply don't respond to it

i don't really care about e-attention from you or anyone specifically. i'm not one to keep quoting the same thing 30x until i get a direct response (see your good friend teh_spamerer for a truly annoying and awful internet personality)