You mean Iron Knuckles in OoT.In OoT Darknuts are way more powerful than Dark Link in almost every way. That isn't being "limited by game mechanics", it's game design, they purposefully made Dark Link weaker than Darknuts. End of story.
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You mean Iron Knuckles in OoT.In OoT Darknuts are way more powerful than Dark Link in almost every way. That isn't being "limited by game mechanics", it's game design, they purposefully made Dark Link weaker than Darknuts. End of story.
What do you mean by "cope just fine"? What do you expect me to do, flame you? Don't tempt me. Like I told an irl friend not long ago, don't play with fire unless you're willing to get burned.@Elessar you seem to cope with this "TLness" just fine. You'll only have to bear it for 2 more years.
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This guy wouldn't happen to be related to this guy by chance?You mean Iron Knuckles in OoT.
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I added you, and yet, no response.Anyone want to wifi? I have got to get used to this pro controller. :/
(sigh) I have nothing to say to that.What do you mean by "cope just fine"? What do you expect me to do, flame you? Don't tempt me. Like I told an irl friend not long ago, don't play with fire unless you're willing to get burned.
Also, why 2 more years? Is that the time when your balls are scheduled to finally drop?
That's because the post was from an hour before you posted.I added you, and yet, no response.
just accept my friend request, my NID is in your inboxThat's because the post was from an hour before you posted.
What's your NNID?
Okay, I'm hosting.just accept my friend request, my NID is in your inbox
No. Not "end of story". You can't tell how powerful Dark Link is in OoT just based off of how much health he has. The same can even be said for Link. If Link had all the items and equipment in the game any only had four hearts, would that mean that he's weak? No, right? Besides, anyone can become stronger over time. We don't even know if we actually killed him. If that was the case, we would see him colapse onto the floor and wither away. Instead he dissapears below the ground, screaming. Perhaps out of frustration. Dark Link's AI didn't do him a whole lot of justice either. You can't use Dark Link's difficulty as an argument either, since there are plenty of bosses in the Zelda series that you can beat easily, yet it's supposed to be a poerful enemy or even the final boss at times. Lastly, I dislike how you would compare Dark Link to a moblin. You can't. Dark Link isn't an enemy you see all the time, meaning there's something special about him. Don't think you can dismiss me so easily.Ummmm dude, you can't break the walls of canon like that. What you see is what you get. The only time Dark Link truly appears in a Zelda game is OoT, who dies in a scrawny 5 hits, FSA, where Dark Link is created by Ganon and still is weaker than Link, and finally, Zelda 2, where Dark Link is canonically just Links shadow to test if he is worthy for the triforce. In every game, Dark Link is pretty easy to beat, that isn't "Limiting Dark Link with game mechanics", that is merely fact. It's kind of like saying Moblins from Wind Waker are total bad ***** and can revolt against Ganondorf, take on Link, and get and use the full triforce because they are limited by game mechanics. Dark Link is just another enemy, and not even the strongest one at that. In OoT Darknuts are way more powerful than Dark Link in almost every way. That isn't being "limited by game mechanics", it's game design, they purposefully made Dark Link weaker than Darknuts. End of story.
Too bad then that it just so happens that Dark Link is a wuss in every game he's in. Like seriously, you say he's so OP and powerful but that's just based on wishes. If you stick to canon, Dark Link is nothing but mediocre test to make Link more powerful. He has no will, no personality, nothing. He's a construct, nothing more. And that is canon.No. Not "end of story". You can't tell how powerful Dark Link is in OoT just based just off of how much health he has. The same can even be said for Link. If Link had all the items and equipment in the game any only had four hearts, would that mean that he's weak? No, right? Besides, anyone can become stronger over time. We don't even know if we actually killed him. If that was the case, we would see him colapse onto the floor and wither away. Instead he dissapears below the ground, screaming. Perhaps out of frustration. Dark Link's AI didn't do him a whole lot of justice either. I dislike how you would compare Dark Link to a moblin. Dark Link isn't an enemy you see all the time, meaning there's something special about him. Don't think you can dismiss me so easily.
Oh, please. Read to me where it says that he's "a construct and nothing more". And whenever did I say he was super OP? Anyone in possession of the entire triforce is obviously going to be extremely powerful. I only said that he is a potential threat and has potential to be a very powerful antagonist. Just because Nintendo chose not to develop Dark Link`s character doesn't mean he's a wuss. He even got enough recognition to be a costume for Link in Brawl and Sm4sh. That alone should mean something regarding his character. Even if it's just something to make Link look badass, Nintendo is aware of Dark Link's potential.Too bad then that it just so happens that Dark Link is a wuss in every game he's in. Like seriously, you say he's so OP and powerful but that's just based on wishes. If you stick to canon, Dark Link is nothing but mediocre test to make Link more powerful. He has no will, no personality, nothing. He's a construct, nothing more. And that is canon.
He's nothing but a trial, it's in Hyrule Historia. And they put him as a costume because he's popular. You do realize that they also out golden Link (which never shows up anywhere) and freaking purple Link. So him being a costume equates his to freaking lavender Link.Oh, please. Read to me where it says that he's "a construct and nothing more". And whenever did I say he was super OP? Anyone in possession of the entire triforce is obviously going to be extremely powerful. I only said that he is a potential threat and has potential to be a very powerful antagonist. Just because Nintendo chose not to develop Dark Link`s character doesn't mean he's a wuss. He even got enough recognition to be a costume for Link in Brawl and Sm4sh. That alone should mean something regarding his character. Even if it's just something to make Link look badass, Nintendo is aware of Dark Link's potential.
Where in Hyrule Historia? I had the book before and haven't seen it say that anywhere. I lol'd @ you using other color swaps as an argument. And again, even if he was just put there out of popularity, he received recognition as a costume and by default also makes him a playable character. Dark Link is popular for a reason. He has potential, and Nintendo knows it.He's nothing but a trial, it's in Hyrule Historia. And they put him as a costume because he's popular. You do realize that they also out golden Link (which never shows up anywhere) and freaking purple Link. So him being a costume equates his to freaking lavender Link.
I got mugged and have/had a severe concussion and some brain damage. Memory is fine, but coordination, processing, hand-eye coordination, muscle memory, sight, and couple of things aren't. It is not long term however, but I still need to build them back up. Naturally, my ability to play my cello, and smash bros has been hindered. Meaning, I have to restart from scratch with Smash Bros. I haven't even been able to play smash bros that much because it gives me such terrible headaches. But I think I will try again today. So I have a clean slate to make my characters better than ever! And will give me a new chance with characters I have never used well(Zelda).What is @Lozjam recovering from, exactly? A sick burn?
Fierce Deity has way more potential and you know it. Nintendo also knows it as it was Links more elaborate alts. Fierce Deity Link is by definition, way more powerul, cool, mysterious, and just amazing. That doesn't mean they are going to bring him back in Zelda Wii U. Also, may I also state, all of your arguments consist of circular reasoning and fallacies, of which, you need to stop, as it is quite annoying and does not make your case at all.Where in Hyrule Historia? I had the book before and haven't seen it say that anywhere. I lol'd @ you using other color swaps as an argument. And again, even if he was just put there out of popularity, he received recognition as a costume and by default also makes him a playable character. Dark Link is popular for a reason. He has potential, and Nintendo knows it.
I am not of the light, but of Darkness. The closest thing to normal Link I'd ever get is red and FD Link. I'm not a colorful type of person. Bright colors do not fit me well. Even when it comes to Smash.I think many people worship Dark Link because they mistakenly believe anything which isblackdark (.. this will never sound right) is automatically badass -- the association with evil is enticing, because man is a poetical animal, and enjoys his fiction. In his life he must bow down to authorities while playing the good man, who obeys the rules and treads the path cleared for him by his superiors; but in different worlds, he can say "Nice guy? I don't give a ****. -- I embrace the evil." Observe.
He's just a recolored Link used as a trial. He has no character except an abstract concept of evil, which is not "badass" but childish. Join us in the light, and embrace a colorful Link.
Fierce Deity certainly is amazing and more interesting, but Dark Link just fits my style more and I'm sure I'm not alone (he also appeared as a costume in Smash first. It might not mean anything, but yeah). A Zelda game with him as a main antagonist or at least taking an important role certainly is very doable. But you can't disprove that Dark Link is a potential threat. I'll say it as many times as I please. I honestly don't care how annoyed you are. I know you're recovering from a concussion, but we're all thick skinned here dude. Just what is it about Dark Link that pisses you guys off lol? Looks like I'm on neither Ganon or Link's side. Seems quite fitting for me.Fierce Deity has way more potential and you know it. Nintendo also knows it as it was Links more elaborate alts. Fierce Deity Link is by definition, way more powerul, cool, mysterious, and just amazing. That doesn't mean they are going to bring him back in Zelda Wii U. Also, may I also state, all of your arguments consist of circular reasoning and fallacies, of which, you need to stop, as it is quite annoying and does not make your case at all.
It is not the character itself that I am angry at, it is you blowing out of proportion of Dark Link with everything. Saying that he can beat Link and Ganondorf, and all of those non sensible statements that hold no water. Also, there are many problems within the "facts" you present that blatantly disregards Canon and the actual games. Let me use this post as an example.I am not of the light, but of Darkness. The closest thing to normal Link I'd ever get is red and FD Link. I'm not a colorful type of person. Bright colors do not fit me well. Even when it comes to Smash.
Fierce Deity certainly is amazing and more interesting, but Dark Link just fits my style more and I'm sure I'm not alone (he also appeared as a costume in Smash first. It might not mean anything, but yeah). A Zelda game with him as a main antagonist or at least taking an important role certainly is very doable. But you can't disprove that Dark Link is a potential threat. I'll say it as many times as I please. I honestly don't care how annoyed you are. I know you're recovering from a concussion, but we're all thick skinned here dude. Just what is it about Dark Link that pisses you guys off lol? Looks like I'm on neither Ganon or Link's side. Seems quite fitting for me.
My argument about the alternate costumes hold more water and make more sense than all of your arguments combined. At this stage you're like a child plucking your ears and screaming "I can't hear you" over and over. Which, you are. "I am of darkness"? Really? You're sixteen right? Everybody "is of darkness" at that age because you think it makes you cooler. Well, it doesn't. It just screams your age at everyone. It doesn't make you seem nor sounds badass nor mature but rather the opposite. Tryhard comes to mind. Also, if you happen to live in suburbia, middle class and say that you're "dark and of the night" I'll laugh at you so hard that you'll be able to audibly hear me from wherever you are.Where in Hyrule Historia? I had the book before and haven't seen it say that anywhere. I lol'd @ you using other color swaps as an argument. And again, even if he was just put there out of popularity, he received recognition as a costume and by default also makes him a playable character. Dark Link is popular for a reason. He has potential, and Nintendo knows it.
This is Russell's teapot all over. If you claim to be an atheist because there I no evidence for God, and then use this claim to support your stubborn belief of Dark Link being something else than a lolenemy you clearly have no sense of irony. The burden of proof is on you. As @But you can't disprove that Dark Link is a potential threat. I'll say it as many times as I please.
Lol, that was a fantacy I conjured up. You guys were having convos in old english, so I thought I'd join in on the fun. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I didn't think it would get this messy and I was just giving my favorite version of Link some love. Dark Link is the best "dark version of a character" ever. Keep in mind that not all Dark Links are the same. In OoT, it is unknown what he was doing in the water temple. I doubt he was there just to guard the longshot, and his ability to teleport behind you and stand on the end of your blade while you thrust at him is pretty awesome and shows that he can hold his own. You don't see many other characters doing that in the Zelda series, do you? His difficulty level isn't a real argument though as the AI didn't do him enough justice imo. However he most certainly isn't a weak opponent to Link if you don't involve gameplay. Just because you can beat him easily doesn't mean that the same goes for Link.It is not the character itself that I am angry at, it is you blowing out of proportion of Dark Link with everything. Saying that he can beat Link and Ganondorf, and all of those non sensible statements that hold no water. Also, there are many problems within the "facts" you present that blatantly disregards Canon and the actual games. Let me use this post as an example.
1. He didn't "appear in Smash as a costume first" the very first appearance was in Zelda 2 with "Links Shadow" and in Ocarina of Time, well before Smash existed! Even then, he wasn't exactly a costume until Melee, of which he wore a black tunic, and the real dark Link appeared in a single event. Dark Link as an Alt really didn't happen until Brawl.
2. We have disproved Dark Link as a threat, as he is. He is pretty weak, and unless he gets revamped, he is only a test. He is only an idea with being powerful. Even then, "Dark" versions of characters were blatantly overused and have become a cliché.
3. If you play as Dark Link, you are on Ganondorfs or Hylia's side! He works for Ganondorf 2/3 games he has been in, and works for Hylia guarding the Triforce of Courage 1/3 of the time!
Entirely subjective. I think SAX is a lot better concept for a character, having ring known how she is so ruthless. You are basing a character off of fanfiction, you realize that right?Lol, that was a fantacy I conjured up. You guys were having convos in old english, so I thought I'd join in on the fun. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I didn't think it would get this messy and I was just giving my favorite version of Link some love. Dark Link is the best "dark version of a character" ever.
It is pretty clear that Ganondorf's magic made him. It was Ganondorf's powers that made these shrines of worship inhabited by monsters. Also Ganondorf made phantom Ganon, who also bended reality.Keep in mind that not all Dark Links are the same. In OoT, it is unknown what he was doing in the water temple.
Ghirahim, Zant, Wizrobes, Phantom how many characters are out looking for?I doubt he was there just to guard the longshot, and his ability to teleport behind you and stand on the end of your blade while you thrust at him is pretty awesome and shows that he can hold his own. You don't see many other characters doing that in the Zelda series, do you?
Isn't a weak opponent if you don't involve gameplay? Are you kidding me? There is no cutscene depicting how powerful Dark Link is, nor any other mention of how "powerful" he is. You are saying he is powerful when there is no Gameplay, when literally all we have is gameplay. It's as ridiculous as saying Joey's Rattata is the fiercest opponent for your pokemon because he is the best rattata, even though you demolished it.His difficulty level isn't a real argument though as the AI didn't do him enough justice imo. However he most certainly isn't a weak opponent to Link if you don't involve gameplay. Just because you can beat him easily doesn't mean that the same goes for Link.
Just who the hell are you to judge? I'm not at all even that type of person. I simply don't like super colorful things out of preference. Just because you're twice my age gives you absolutely no reason to look down on and judge me without even a grain of real evidence. Same can be said about a lot of you "adults". Just so you know, I'm not emo, gothic or any of that bs.My argument about the alternate costumes hold more water and make more sense than all of your arguments combined. At this stage you're like a child plucking your ears and screaming "I can't hear you" over and over. Which, you are. "I am of darkness"? Really? You're sixteen right? Everybody "is of darkness" at that age because you think it makes you cooler. Well, it doesn't. It just screams your age at everyone. It doesn't make you seem nor sounds badges nor mature but rather the opposite. Tryhard comes to mind. Also, if you happen to live in suburbia, middle class and say that you're "dark and of the night" I'll laugh at you so hard that you'll be able to audibly hear me from wherever you are.
This is Russell's teapot all over. If you claim to be an atheist because there I no evidence for God, and then use this claim to support your stubborn belief of Dark Link being something else than a lolenemy you clearly have no sense of irony. The burden of proof is on you. As @Lozjam stated, you're entire argument consists of phallacies and circular logic. There is nothing left to add to this honestly. Remain ignorant if you wish.
Also, it doesn't bother me that you claim Dark Link to he anything more than a fast of Link's true power, but it is amusing to see you trying to argue against evidence and canon with nothing but you own "but dark is cooler than white" phase of adolescence.
Sometimes that happens, but most of the time, it can be explained. If you accidentally press the Jump button during certain frames of your 1st jump, you still technically "jump" but you gain no height from it. Sometimes though, on a rare occasion, a jump would disappear for no reason.Question for everyone: do your jumps ever get eaten mysteriously? I am SD on average 1 time every game and I thought it was buffering but I'm now wondering it it is bad button lag. I know I press jump but he just falls.
Looks like I hit a nerve there. What happened o being thick skinned? I didn't even call you kid like I do with unknown hero.Just who the hell are you to judge? I'm not at all even that type of person. I simply don't like super colorful things out of preference. Just because you're twice my age gives you absolutely no reason to look down on and judge me without even a grain of real evidence. Same can be said about a lot of you "adults". Just so you know, I'm not emo, gothic or any of that bs.
Never owned a game cube?! You don't know what you're missing! That thing makes excellent brass knuckles.on account of never owning a Gamecube.
You get a like because you're right about the way people tend to wrongly assume 'darker' is 'better'. I still play Dark Link, not because I am TEH DAWKNESS, but because I'm an angry jerkface who is frequently and gleefully ruining the days of others, much like Dark Link in FSA, who would frequently appear just to block your path, laugh at you, and leave.I think many people worship Dark Link because they mistakenly believe anything which isblackdark (.. this will never sound right) is automatically badass -- the association with evil is enticing, because man is a poetical animal, and enjoys his fiction. In his life he must bow down to authorities while playing the good man, who obeys the rules and treads the path cleared for him by his superiors; but in different worlds, he can say "Nice guy? I don't give a ****. -- I embrace the evil." Observe.
He's just a recolored Link used as a trial. He has no character except an abstract concept of evil, which is not "badass" but childish. Join us in the light, and embrace a colorful Link.
1. I have no idea who that is.My Hylian counterpart could not be any more right. The fact is, you can play Grooses theme whilst reading your post and it will be perfectly fitting. Ah, the novelties of Ganondorf's ancestor. Just look at how far Grooses bloodline has come....
Anyway, as I have proven(I believe) I am a master of Zelda. I know all of the lore, almost every fact, in fact. I have played and beaten every single game of the series 100%(except HW I am waiting for Christmas on that one). @Elessar seems to be one too, if not more so than myself(by the way Elessar, Fallacy is written with an F, not a Ph... Unless you don't live in America and spell it differently, in which case, my apologies). You do not want to mess with us when it comes to Zelda Lore, else you will have a Master Sword and a Sages Sword poked through your body as if you were a grassland filled with Rupees. My point? Start playing Grooses theme..... Now
Entirely subjective. I think SAX is a lot better concept for a character, having ring known how she is so ruthless. You are basing a character off of fanfiction, you realize that right?
It is pretty clear that Ganondorf's magic made him. It was Ganondorf's powers that made these shrines of worship inhabited by monsters. Also Ganondorf made phantom Ganon, who also bended reality.
Ghirahim, Zant, Wizrobes, Phantom how many characters are out looking for?
Isn't a weak opponent if you don't involve gameplay? Are you kidding me? There is no cutscene depicting how powerful Dark Link is, nor any other mention of how "powerful" he is. You are saying he is powerful when there is no Gameplay, when literally all we have is gameplay. It's as ridiculous as saying Joey's Rattata is the fiercest opponent for your pokemon because he is the best rattata, even though you demolished it.
I wasn't even being serious when I said that. Basically all that meant was "no".You get a like because you're right about the way people tend to wrongly assume 'darker' is 'better'. I still play Dark Link, not because I am TEH DAWKNESS, but because I'm an angry jerkface who is frequently and gleefully ruining the days of others, much like Dark Link in FSA, who would frequently appear just to block your path, laugh at you, and leave.