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[link7]

Yup. Just waiting on a few things so I can pay for it.

Btw if you go looking for me I'll probably be wearing a beanie hat with a NES controller on the front and will also be wearing a pair of Gunnar's. I'll also probably be with that same person you saw at Dropzone wearing that elf hat, but he's wearing a raccoon hat now, which fits with his name better.

Cool. I'll be the guy with the Hitler haircut. See you there!

 

[Natmax]

DJTHED Are you talking about Caito Koon? Does he still play any link? When I was back he was playing Robin.

 

[DJTHED]

DJTHED Are you talking about Caito Koon? Does he still play any link? When I was back he was playing Robin.

He mains both Link and Robin.

 

[FooltheFlames]

Izaw looks up his own name from time to time? ... ...
@Izaw Senpai, you're an inspiration~

 

[Dumbfire]

Btw if you go looking for me I'll probably be wearing a beanie hat with a NES controller on the front and will also be wearing a pair of Gunnar's. I'll also probably be with that same person you saw at Dropzone wearing that elf hat, but he's wearing a raccoon hat now, which fits with his name better.

this passage

 

[DJTHED]

this passage

You think this is funny? What's so funny about this?

 

[Tshadow7]

hey guys, ive been a little busy in the past couple of months, newly married and MD stuff, i wanted to ask if all of you will like to participate in another Wifi club tournament link only tournament?? 1 secondary is ok. I want to see if we have enough quorum to make it happen.

Ive been able to fight more at local scenes offline so im not an online only scrub anymore :D

Edit: although i dont think ive improved that much hahahaha but still its good. or at least i think it will make my gameplay improve alot. Also planning on attending to more tournaments now.

 

[epicnights]

Another tourney might be interesting, though maybe not limiting it to only Link...? Not that I'd mind it being Link+1 secondary though. I'd prefer MLG ruleset, but with 3 stock 8 minutes.

 

[ZSaberLink]

I guess this is a bit more metagame related, but if I'm not mistaken Link has some of the best aerial ending lag for his aerials (Bair & Nair at 10 frames, Fair at 12). Is Link's issue actually capitalizing on those because of his slow movement/aerial speed? With the shield stun changes, these all (except Bair I guess), are pretty safe on shield if spaced correctly right?

 

[Huggles828]

Having a garbage OoS game and having your fastest move be 7 frames hurts pretty bad. Being combo bait (heavy + fastfaller) is also a pretty big downside. His biggest issue imo is that because of those problems, Link is in a ton of trouble if the opponent gets in and is good enough to stay in, and the fact that rushdown/fast characters (Fox, Sheik, ZSS, Pika, Sonic, to a lesser extent Falcon) can break through his zone effectively, giving him a smaller margin of error than many characters and making tp notch spacing extremely imporant.

That said I think Link is very solidly mid tier in this one, especially after the fair buff, which I like more and more the more I play. He's got a good bit going for him in this game.

 

[link7]

Biiiiiiiig tourney today! I believe the bracket was destroyed, so have no idea who I'm playing today. Good luck DJTHED

I'm wearing blue jeans, a black jacket, and a dorky looking shirt tucked into said pants. With the Hitler haircut. You'll be able to pick me out.

 

[Catana]

i think theres a specific thread for that talk.

 

[Rizen]

There's this but it's old,
http://smashboards.com/threads/mu-robin.384385/
I guess we can revive it?

 

[Catana]

well yes, obviously, thats what the thread's for. just because its old doesnt mean you shouldnt use it anymore, as long as it stays relevant to what it was made for to begin with.

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

I decided to just move the Robin MU posts, in case anyone was reading through and got confused.

And yes, for the record, reviving old MU threads is always welcome.

 

[KenMeister]

Having a garbage OoS game and having your fastest move be 7 frames hurts pretty bad. Being combo bait (heavy + fastfaller) is also a pretty big downside. His biggest issue imo is that because of those problems, Link is in a ton of trouble if the opponent gets in and is good enough to stay in, and the fact that rushdown/fast characters (Fox, Sheik, ZSS, Pika, Sonic, to a lesser extent Falcon) can break through his zone effectively, giving him a smaller margin of error than many characters and making tp notch spacing extremely imporant.

That said I think Link is very solidly mid tier in this one, especially after the fair buff, which I like more and more the more I play. He's got a good bit going for him in this game.

Wait, was he not mid tier before the fair buff or something?

 

[ZSaberLink]

Having a garbage OoS game and having your fastest move be 7 frames hurts pretty bad. Being combo bait (heavy + fastfaller) is also a pretty big downside. His biggest issue imo is that because of those problems, Link is in a ton of trouble if the opponent gets in and is good enough to stay in, and the fact that rushdown/fast characters (Fox, Sheik, ZSS, Pika, Sonic, to a lesser extent Falcon) can break through his zone effectively, giving him a smaller margin of error than many characters and making tp notch spacing extremely imporant.

That said I think Link is very solidly mid tier in this one, especially after the fair buff, which I like more and more the more I play. He's got a good bit going for him in this game.

Isn't his fastest move (Bair) technically 6 frames? That requires the 7 frame jumpsquat obviously, but just saying. Seems like Link needs some move without range to get good frame data haha.

Btw, Link is probably the only character with a huge difference in his fast fall speed compared to his normal fall speed (90% increase). Is that something that be exploited to get out of combos or anything? Actually I'm never quite sure when you can fast fall and when you can't.

Weird to think that our first active frame after dash tossing an item is that much better than everyone elses unless I'm misreading this o_O....

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/ItemTossDash

1 Link 4 19
2 Zero Suit Samus 4 35
3-5 Diddy Kong 4 36
3-5 Toon Link 4 36

 

[DJTHED]

Biiiiiiiig tourney today! I believe the bracket was destroyed, so have no idea who I'm playing today. Good luck DJTHED

I'm wearing blue jeans, a black jacket, and a dorky looking shirt tucked into said pants. With the Hitler haircut. You'll be able to pick me out.

Lololol honestly the Hitler haircut thing you mentioned before was enough.

 

[Aetheri]

Isn't his fastest move (Bair) technically 6 frames? That requires the 7 frame jumpsquat obviously, but just saying. Seems like Link needs some move without range to get good frame data haha.

Btw, Link is probably the only character with a huge difference in his fast fall speed compared to his normal fall speed (90% increase). Is that something that be exploited to get out of combos or anything? Actually I'm never quite sure when you can fast fall and when you can't.

Weird to think that our first active frame after dash tossing an item is that much better than everyone elses unless I'm misreading this o_O....

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/ItemTossDash

1 Link 4 19
2 Zero Suit Samus 4 35
3-5 Diddy Kong 4 36
3-5 Toon Link 4 36

I think Dedede also has a big difference in fallspeed if I'm not mistaken...

Seems legit...makes sense that a few characters that produce their own throwing items will have better frame data when actually throwing them...(interesting that both of my mains happen to top the list however)

 

[Dumbfire]

Going to tournament, 85 man small national, prelude to big national next week (128 attendants), Izaw will be at both. No stream at this one, you can follow bracket at: http://challonge.com/GGWP5

Meanwhile I feel like citizen Rubashov with hugely sore throat, every swallow is like knife stab & can barely talk, wound on lips keeps opening and salt of toothpaste keeps intensifying, toothache hurting, hopefully feeling better in afternoon

 

[Rizen]

Btw, Link is probably the only character with a huge difference in his fast fall speed compared to his normal fall speed (90% increase). Is that something that be exploited to get out of combos or anything? Actually I'm never quite sure when you can fast fall and when you can't.

The big benefit to his FF speed is when it's paired with an attack or airdodge it covers a huge vertical distance (active frames+quickly descending). Attacks like N/D/Uair travel a long drop with constant attack frames. Since Zair can be used from airdodge, I like to recover high>bait the opponent jumping up at me>FF>airdodge>Zair the ledge as a recovery mixup.

 

[Dumbfire]

Z3ph1r is here too

 

[Rizen]

Good luck guys, do work!

Edit, footage of DLC gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PNwEKzYnw&feature=youtu.be

 

[CrimsonRick117]

Good luck guys, do work!

Edit, footage of DLC gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PNwEKzYnw&feature=youtu.be

Bayonetta looks interesting I like how at 1:47 when she hits the screen she strikes a pose anyway lol.

 

[Catana]

Hey, I'm relatively new to Alabama. Just moved here from Florida a few months ago last year. Anyways I may be going to some events some time this spring break and summer, I'm a Link main who has played against high ranking players/Link mains being Dumbfire, Catpuke, ect (whom are arguably better than Izaw).

LoL

Call me when these guys win a MM vs Zero

Or go America and face some real competition

Or beat Kirinblaze

Or Scizor

meanwhile izaw places 9th at a tourney in my country where im considered #5 or at least #6. looks like there's some ''real competition'' for you back in our small country too, hmm? lmfao, get exposed and know your place.

call me when you get some real tourney results.

 

[DarkDeity15]

meanwhile izaw places 9th at a tourney in my country where im considered #5 or at least #6. looks like there's some ''real competition'' for you back in our small country too, hmm? lmfao, get exposed and know your place.

call me when you get some real tourney results.

When did I say I was even close to your level yet? I'm not. I though I made that clear when I said you guys completely wreck me. Lol. But ight, will do.

Edit: Nvm, that was towards Izaw. Mah b.

 

[Catana]

When did I say I was even close to your level yet? I'm not. I though I made that clear when I said you guys completely wreck me. Lol. But ight, will do.

obviously wasnt referring to you, idiot.

 

[Ffamran]

I think Dedede also has a big difference in fallspeed if I'm not mistaken...

Seems legit...makes sense that a few characters that produce their own throwing items will have better frame data when actually throwing them...(interesting that both of my mains happen to top the list however)

No, it's just Link and Ryu. Also, Wolf, but he's not in Smash 4. Link's fast fall is a 90% increase of his fall speed as said before while Ryu's is +40% his fall speed. Everyone else has a 60% increase. Oh, and Wolf's was like 1%. Why? I don't know, ask the developers who also gave him a 60 frame meteor cancel while everyone had around 25 and ask them why Meta Knight basically had a two-handed sword in Brawl, but a hilt in Smash 4's launch.

 

[DarkDeity15]

obviously wasnt referring to you, idiot.

Well either way, I really do need to start showing tourney results though lol.

 

[Lawz.]

Catana is straight savage.

I was playing against Gunblade today, as Link. I still got it. You'll be seeing me more often I think. Still won't solo main Link because that's just insanity, but setting up bomb traps and killing at 80% with fsmash got me feeling a certain way...

 

[Huggles828]

Just gonna leave this here

 

[RDR7]

Just gonna leave this here

Dope PR placement huggles.

 

[KenMeister]

Dope PR placement huggles.

Blue Link is top tier Link.

 

[DarkDeity15]

Twilight Princess manga confirmed! http://zeldauniverse.net/2016/02/01/akira-himekawa-confirms-twilight-princess-as-their-next-manga/

 

[ZSaberLink]

Catana - under your profile it says you play ZSS? Is that a mistake or did you switch away from Metaknight recently?

The big benefit to his FF speed is when it's paired with an attack or airdodge it covers a huge vertical distance (active frames+quickly descending). Attacks like N/D/Uair travel a long drop with constant attack frames. Since Zair can be used from airdodge, I like to recover high>bait the opponent jumping up at me>FF>airdodge>Zair the ledge as a recovery mixup.

Yeh I've used it for the purposes of N/D/UAir + FF. Never tried the ZAir offstage. Usually when I fast fall offstage I SD >_>

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

Catana - under your profile it says you play ZSS? Is that a mistake or did you switch away from Metaknight recently?



Yeh I've used it for the purposes of N/D/UAir + FF. Never tried the ZAir offstage. Usually when I fast fall offstage I SD >_>

ZSS is there for 3DS.
And watch that double posting. PM me if you don't understand.

 

[CrimsonRick117]

Twilight Princess manga confirmed! http://zeldauniverse.net/2016/02/01/akira-himekawa-confirms-twilight-princess-as-their-next-manga/

So called it. Im interested to see how the art will turn out.

 

[Rizen]

Beautiful, nothing ****s up something good like spinoffs. What was great about the LoZ series is it left a lot to the imagination. It was this legend passed down through the ages, veiled in mist and unique in each retelling. As a kid I made up all this lore and games based on the NES, Super NES and gameboy LoZs.
Now it's become a series of hand-holding, overly narrated, highschool romance, anime puzzle games. The awe of exploration and mystery of the world is a fading dream.

Games like LoZ NES, ALttP, LA, and Majora's Mask (not 3D) were great. Hell, even TP and OoT had a big world to ride a horse around, find mysterious ruins and caves in. I hope the Wii U LoZ gets back to the legend and cuts the slice of life BS.

 

[Catana]

a zelda manga..? dear ****ing god no..

 

[CrimsonRick117]

a zelda manga..? dear ****ing god no..

Can't be as bad as the Legend of Zelda Netflix show that's currently in the works, that is going to be all kinds of fail.