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Link: a weakness?

Midna

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we all know that Link's FS only affects one person (there is no humanely possible way it can draw all players into it). so, what about the other players? do they have to sit and wait? or can Pikachu or Fox, instead of just watching Link slash the crap out of Mario, come up from behind and give Link a Coup de grâce with a fully charged upsmash?

well? is it just me, or does Link's FS suck?
 

Ianthraxx

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I'd like to think that he's invincible while performing it... =\
I do hope the other characters can move around while it's being performed... they should probably just stay away from Link going nuts, though. XD

It's true it only hits one person... so does Kirby's, by the looks of things. I'm sure they'll be balanced with strengths and weaknesses,, though. After all, unlike some of the other characters', it's - apparently - completely unavoidable.
 

Sariku

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We don't know if it's unavoidable, as he can't just choose someone, they have tomake contact. What if the person jumps off the side, yes, he dies, but Link doesn't hit him. Does that mean Links didn't work? We don't know this yet, and while it seems that it could be broken, due to the fact it's not fair if the other players freeze, anything can happen with Sakurai.
 

OmegaXXII

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I believe even if someone was to strike link from behind , he wouldn't be affected because he would be in an invincible state just like Ianthraxx mentioned, but I always though he would strike more than one character if they got to close to him
 

Ash Hol

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i really hope no FS makes the other characters freeze, thatd suck. maybe in the middle of it if another player gets to close in the front they get caught up in it too
 

Viewtiful_Jeff

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I think it cuts away, like a cutscene.

Either that, or I'd think Link would be invincible, otherwise it would be the most useless technique ever.
 

tstumo

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i dunno if he will be invincible. Bowser accumulates damage during his. mario looks like you can go behind him and hit him so that he can stop. samus same as mario. so im not sure about that.I dont think it would go to a cutscene none of the Fs do. perhaps if it was a 1 on 1
then it wouldnt be that much of a problem. I think from the trailers and the screenshots they zoomed in up close so that we could see it better. all of the other Fs shown involve more than one person being attacked so naturally the one that involves one person being attacked they simply just showed it to us up close.
 

OnyxVulpine

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Maybe he freezes and his opponent freezes where they are busy.. And the others are able to move around, but if they get close they get a single hut of damage to stay away. The Final Smash should have a high priority so nothing can knock him out of it or I guess get hurt.
 

Mistle

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i dunno if he will be invincible. Bowser accumulates damage during his. mario looks like you can go behind him and hit him so that he can stop. samus same as mario. so im not sure about that.I dont think it would go to a cutscene none of the Fs do. perhaps if it was a 1 on 1
That would be horrible IMO. It would defeat the whole purpose of the final smash. It would only make sence to be invincible while you are Final Smashing.
 

Dashiamo

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This is the way i think it will work:
Link gets a smash ball, and begins to glow, then the player has to run up to someone and hit them once with anymove to initiate the attack, the victim they hit will then be trapped by the triforce and link will proceed to devistate them.

Like will be invincible from the moment the triforces trap someone.
 

XenoGuard

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SOmething that has never been made clear is. How the Final Smash is Initiated. I mean, do you preform it with a button? or is it automatically. All the signs show that it starts out right when you get the ball, but what if mario is facing the edge when he gets it?
 

Gaudion

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I don't think it really matters either way... I mean, try to give Sakurai some credit on the issues, here. Until we see or hear otherwise, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that the Final Smashes with a tighter focus area will do more damage than those with the capability to hit up to an entire screen's worth of characters.

All characters being able to be hit during a Final Smash, not just Link, could be just as beneficial to gameplay as it could harmful. In one-on-ones, as mentioned, it's not really going to matter. A Final Smash is probably a guaranteed death for your opponents. In multi-player battles though, being stationary and vulnerable while performing a Final Smash might actually require you to *gasp* incorperate timing and strategy into your attack plan.

Oh, Samus is going to use her Zero Laser on the two opponents to the right of her? That's great, I'm on her left. Times to charge up Bowser's headbutt as high as it'll go and punish the crap out of her.
 

Aeramis

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"<Triforce Slash>
Is he using the Triforce to slash enemies? Or is it the Triforce doing the slashing?
You don’t have time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.
Light shoots out from the Triforce on the back of Link’s hand, striking his opponents!
Link dashes into the fray! Enemies are trapped by the Triforce.
He strikes repeatedly with lightning speed!
And then comes the finishing strike! SKRAAAAH!
If you suffer this fate, there is little hope for you. But remember: damage alone will not finish you in Smash.
If you’re lucky enough to strike solid ground, you just might be saved."

Quoted from smash dojo. By the looks of it you should be able to hit anyone in your path with it. They use the word "enemies" over and over. Also say "opponents". So that might mean more then one person can be stuck in the triforce.
 

cccck

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we don't know if kirby only hits one person, we don't know if link only hits one person, we just only say him hit one person. what if link can change targets mid final smash? and kirby, like in his game, cooks all his foes one screen at once.

don't worry untill they say "it only hits one person" we don't even know if that is all the final smash.
 

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"<Triforce Slash>
Is he using the Triforce to slash enemies? Or is it the Triforce doing the slashing?
You don’t have time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.
Light shoots out from the Triforce on the back of Link’s hand, striking his opponents!
Link dashes into the fray! Enemies are trapped by the Triforce.
He strikes repeatedly with lightning speed!
And then comes the finishing strike! SKRAAAAH!
If you suffer this fate, there is little hope for you. But remember: damage alone will not finish you in Smash.
If you’re lucky enough to strike solid ground, you just might be saved."

Quoted from smash dojo. By the looks of it you should be able to hit anyone in your path with it. They use the word "enemies" over and over. Also say "opponents". So that might mean more then one person can be stuck in the triforce.

Thank you.
 

cccck

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well, that helps my point to... doesn't it?

(or does mine help his?)

and for the Kirby thing you where talking about, see my last post.
 

OnyxVulpine

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Well the "Enemies" thing might.. Not mean that, he just meant all of them in general but one in particular during his Final Smash.

Though it sounds like it would act like Samus' beam in front and catch whomever is there at the time. Probably the closest and then completely pwn them.
 

cccck

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and you guys are forgetting, we still don't even close know the full story of any final smash, much less links
 

Ztevieman7

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Midna,
there are only 2 sections for SSBB

* SSBB General Discussion
&
*SSBB Character Discussion

back to your topic, wait and see.
 

Dragonboy2k4

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"<Triforce Slash>
Is he using the Triforce to slash enemies? Or is it the Triforce doing the slashing?
You don’t have time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.
Light shoots out from the Triforce on the back of Link’s hand, striking his opponents!
Link dashes into the fray! Enemies are trapped by the Triforce.
He strikes repeatedly with lightning speed!
And then comes the finishing strike! SKRAAAAH!
If you suffer this fate, there is little hope for you. But remember: damage alone will not finish you in Smash.
If you’re lucky enough to strike solid ground, you just might be saved."

Quoted from smash dojo. By the looks of it you should be able to hit anyone in your path with it. They use the word "enemies" over and over. Also say "opponents". So that might mean more then one person can be stuck in the triforce.
In short,this guy beat me to the punch earlier.That means guys,yes,the fuking techique is avoidable :embarrass "Links "SHOOTS"a beam should be a clear sign that in order for the slashing business to start,that beam has to strike the opponent,thus relieving the major flaw of the Final Smash.I dont even know why Link is still a "?"over anyones heads anymore,as oppose to Kirby whom we should concern with.That **** was stated weeks ago,yet we have everyone still asking if its automatic or now. :embarrass

Thread close please?
 

cccck

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The mods can do there job on there own, don't bug them. and they would most likely just move it... so...
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I should realy get back on topic now...

We have yet to truly see a FS that hits only one person. for all we know it is only hitting one because there was only one person to hit at the time.
 

Dragonboy2k4

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The mods can do there job on there own, don't bug them. and they would most likely just move it... so...
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I should realy get back on topic now...

We have yet to truly see a FS that hits only one person. for all we know it is only hitting one because there was only one person to hit at the time.

Your also in no position to say what we can or cant say to the mods as well.And with the few intellenge post I see in here on why on Link,the mods imo will mostly likly(hopefully)remove it..
 

cccck

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if you don't like a topic don't post in it, you are just hurting it.

but we don't know truly how many people it hits, or how much it does.
 

_the_sandman_

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I think every Final Smash has some weakness to it.

Mario - Only goes in one direction. Has to be used in the air or on a platform or else its useless.

Pikachu - When it runs out he loses all of his jumps.

Samus - After using her blast, she becomes Zero Suit. If its like the game she will be MUCH weaker.

Bowser - After using his final he might become dazed.

Link - Can only KO one person, but he may also be able to miss them.
 

cccck

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I think every Final Smash has some weakness to it.

Mario - Only goes in one direction. Has to be used in the air or on a platform or else its useless.

Pikachu - When it runs out he loses all of his jumps.

Samus - After using her blast, she becomes Zero Suit. If its like the game she will be MUCH weaker.

Bowser - After using his final he might become dazed.

Link - Can only KO one person, but he may also be able to miss them.
good points, here is what I think however
Pikachu- it's a hard to aim! (I think he just flys the way you point, no jumps)

Bowser- other players can doge and hide in small areas. lots of time to get ready for attack?

link-might hit more then one person, he might have to aim it well to do so.
 

Keige

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I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that Giga Bowser is huge target. Not to mention Jigglypuff bait.
 

cccck

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he can't be hurt in this game.

NOTHING CAN STOP ME NOW I AM GIGA BOWSER OH... I USed Up... all my time talking..

but really, he can't be hurt at all. even by Jigglypuf
 

cccck

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it says he can't be hurt.

"
<Giga Bowser Transformation>

What?! You can control Giga Bowser from Super Smash Bros. Melee?!

It’s Bowser’s Final Smash!!

Bowser grabs a Smash Ball! TRANSFORM!

He’s huge! And tough!

What, you think just because he’s huge, you can needle him with lots of little attacks and keep him off balance? Heh heh... Yeah, you keep thinking that.

screenshot

He must be invincible!

You can only be Giga Bowser for a short time, though, so you’d better take your enemies out while you can. Bear in mind, too, that while escaping from Giga Bowser, fighters might decide it’s a good strategy to pick off the stragglers in his wake..."
 

Keige

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None of those attacks hit yet. It looks like in a couple frames he is in for some pain.
 

cccck

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the kick has. and pit has, you see he is hit him, he is just still moving fromthe swing.
 

Keige

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Maybe he takes damage but isn't effected by knockback or hitstun? Basically the opposite of the invisibility item from Melee.
 
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