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Link: a weakness?
- Thread starter Midna
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most likely as fast as he was in SSBM, he does not look fast here does he?
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/bowser/bowser_070704c-l.jpg
but he sure looks cool.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/bowser/bowser_070704c-l.jpg
but he sure looks cool.
_the_sandman_
Smash Ace
I still think he can take damage but not flinch at all.
Besides it doesn't matter, if your attacks can't stop him then why would you even try to fight him? As soon as you touch him he'll just smash you into a KO!
Besides it doesn't matter, if your attacks can't stop him then why would you even try to fight him? As soon as you touch him he'll just smash you into a KO!
Dragonboy2k4
Smash Ace
See? With the ******** demands and such,I wont do just that.And please,I highly doubt that Iam hurting anyone in this topic,but since you like to list suggestions,heres on for you as well.If you dont like what "someones" type,simply ignore the person,as Iam sure they are forum options to help you get rid of the post that capture your attention a.k.a "annoy you",or go on with you been doing only to make me reply.The choice is yours..
Anyhow,on topic,I really dont see the big fuss with Link's Final hitting mulitple opponents are not.For instance,Sakurai has stated in the past that he wants characters to be "unique"from each other,means having different moves,style of play,the works.From most of Link's screenshots/trailer hint that the move only works VS one character thats is struck by the beam.Why would they try to animate a move when Links "somehow"can capture mulitple enemies and slashes 2 or more opponents?Any Zelda fan knows Link almost never gets his friends involved in a duel,from a personal matter.In shorter terms,he takes his duels seriuosly,never involving anyone esle even if they are evil(meaning he kills EACH boss 1 by 1),cuz if that were the case,the Zelda games would be very fuking short now would they?
IMO,having Link killing mulitple dudes with his "Triforce Slash" would be breaking character tradtion.
If people would think back to the movie with Kirby and his Final Smash,its pretty clear that some characters are NOT gonna have the same Final Smashes as the other characters,as the other characters FS are design to attack mutilple emenies at once.Making everyones Final Smash like Mario/Samus would be called three words down the road "The Same Thing".
From the description anyway,its only save to say that once Link's connects with it,its pretty much a K.O,unless they hit a ceiling/wall(soild ground enough to me).
that is the point... you get the part of every one running from him?
Gaudion
Smash Apprentice
Yes, but you did suggest he was invincible. Not unbeatable or an unwise opponent to attack.
I'm in agreement with the others on Giga Bowser. I expect him to be able to take damage while transformed, but unable to be stunned, dazed, flinched, etc. So you can hit him, but he'll just hit you right back through it. Imagine it like hitting a person with a Star on. (You guys remember items, right?)
I remember someone saying that Sakurai said that Link will be able to hit all three people during his FS...so maybe he shoots three triforces out and chops up one person then dashes to the next person and chops away and so on....but from the trailers all we've seen is him chop and slash away on one person so I dunno lol but I do know for a fact that his FS is bad a** from the way it looks......who wants to disagree?
so you are saying that, kirby gets to cook his foes for free, but bowser has to worry about it? it says he can't be hurt. that means he can't be hurt.
in·vin·ci·ble
1. unyielding. Invincible, impregnable, indomitable suggest that which cannot be overcome or mastered. Invincible is applied to that which cannot be conquered in combat or war, or overcome or subdued in any manner: an invincible army; invincible courage. Impregnable is applied to a place or position that cannot be taken by assault or siege, and hence to whatever is proof against attack: an impregnable fortress; impregnable virtue. Indomitable implies having an unyielding spirit, or stubborn persistence in the face of opposition or difficulty: indomitable will.
and you know the star says it makes you invincible?
in·vin·ci·ble
1. unyielding. Invincible, impregnable, indomitable suggest that which cannot be overcome or mastered. Invincible is applied to that which cannot be conquered in combat or war, or overcome or subdued in any manner: an invincible army; invincible courage. Impregnable is applied to a place or position that cannot be taken by assault or siege, and hence to whatever is proof against attack: an impregnable fortress; impregnable virtue. Indomitable implies having an unyielding spirit, or stubborn persistence in the face of opposition or difficulty: indomitable will.
and you know the star says it makes you invincible?
linkw00t
Smash Journeyman
What does it matter? Since when do people play FFA's. That's for n00bs remember. People who play FFA's don't have "skills"
@ce
Smash Apprentice
ffa are for fun matches. and skills still help get kills in ffa matches... they just dont help to win.
Suna
Smash Journeyman
links FS can affect everyone
Gaudion
Smash Apprentice
Ha... You know what? It's quite obvious you've completely made up your mind on the matter. I think I am going to save myself some time and effort and just let this one go.
SuperAce
Smash Journeyman
This presents and interesting problem. Another thing to consider: Is it a pre-rendered Cut Scene? Or perhaps you can catch others if they're all in your line of fire.
We should still keep in mind that a Final Smash is not nessecerily a KO...
We should still keep in mind that a Final Smash is not nessecerily a KO...
when you give me a reason to think he can be hurt. then I well believe you. you just said I think, and I said what I think. I said why I think that, you say why you think that.
Gaudion
Smash Apprentice
Yes, but I can tell when a person is debating with an open mind and when they've already decided and that's that. Like I said... I think I am just going to bow out of this one.
Okay.
Everyone's final smash has strengths and weaknesses. If link's FS only attacks one person, then he better be invincible. And anyways, there is nothing on the website that suggests anybody not being invincible.
Link probably floats to the nearest player, or, everyone gets sucked into the vortex of the triangle, and her then floats to them and pwns them.
By the way I think when you grab the item it's immediate. You can probably control the smash, so you can steer Mario's attack at the beginning. Like steering Fox's up+b.
Everyone's final smash has strengths and weaknesses. If link's FS only attacks one person, then he better be invincible. And anyways, there is nothing on the website that suggests anybody not being invincible.
Link probably floats to the nearest player, or, everyone gets sucked into the vortex of the triangle, and her then floats to them and pwns them.
By the way I think when you grab the item it's immediate. You can probably control the smash, so you can steer Mario's attack at the beginning. Like steering Fox's up+b.
Rx-
A.K.A. Disafter
This is a very good point.
Also I agree that link will be invincible, simply because it would make the gameplay look cleaner that way. I'd even go so far as to say he gets a few extra frames (the length of roy's or maybe even marth's counter, but not much longer than that) of invincibilty after using it, so as to not get jumped by other players the second he stops Triforce slashing people.
No I mean it, why should he not be invincible? I want to hear your reason for this. don't count me in with all the noobs, I just want to hear you point, while I try to make mine. I am sorry If I said it to strongly.
Cubelarooso
Smash Lord
I think every character will be invincible during their Fish, plus enough afterward to escape or retaliate the Roy charging his Flare Blade right behind him.
Gaudion
Smash Apprentice
I would answer your question with a question. What reason do you have to assume he will be invincible? Right now I don't believe it's been officially established anywhere that characters are going to be immune or invincible during their Final Smashes, so for now let's just look at the text on the website concerning just Bowser's Final Smash.
I believe there are two main passages of note.
1. "What, you think just because he’s huge, you can needle him with lots of little attacks and keep him off balance? Heh heh... Yeah, you keep thinking that."
2. "He must be invincible!"
Now, neither of these statements actually confirm or deny anything. Sakurai is a guy who's obviously having fun with his updates. All of his language is very colorful, it's fun, and above all a lot of it is extremely ambiguous. He apparently throws caution to the wind when worrying about how people are going to interpret the information the website. Honestly, the whole thing is more of a promo than a stat sheet. Anyways...
In statement one, Sakurai doesn't say anything about damage at all. He just says "off balance". I don't interpret that to mean "invincible" in any way. What I understand that to mean is that he's not going to be able to be stunned. You may have garnered a different understanding, but if you're inferring "invincible" from that part of the text, then I'd have to suggest that you're reaching a lot further than I am. Agree?
The second statement might have lead you to your conclusion, but... again... Sakurai didn't say, "Bowser is invincible during his transformation." He wrote a subtitle saying, "He must be invincible!" Like I said... Colorful. Fun. Sounds to me like he could have just as easily wrote, "Oh no!" or, "You'd better stay out of his way!" Like everything else on the website, it sounds like he's just writing for our entertainment, not for our information.
Maybe Bowser will be invincible. Maybe he won't. Maybe others will, and maybe they won't. But I'm not seeing any basis anywhere for this concrete belief you seem to have that Bowser will, in fact, be invincible. If I'm missing something you're seeing, I'd be more than happy to listen to anything you have to say.
,,, I think i lose...
SuperAce
Smash Journeyman
Wait up G-money. I could also vary depending on the type of smash. We've seen Blast Attacks, Transformations, and pysical charges. And then moves that appear to target one character, like Cook Kirby and Link's Triforce Slash. I think it'll depend on how the attack is initiated.
Yet another experiment for december 3rd. Everyone's gotta be online when we try it out though! That'd be a really multi-man melee.
And sorry to nit pick, but I think you meant "caption" over subtitle. Heh, I'm a nut like that.
ClickOnTheLink
Smash Cadet
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I although Link's FS does look cool, it does look like it only hurts one person directly. I was hoping since they were using TP Link that his final smash could be his transformation into his wolf form and then use the attack that Midna does when she attacks those monsters that come out of the portals.
red stone
Smash Ace
it's the coolest looking one though
Ogre_Deity_Link
Smash Lord
Maybe while Link's slaughtering one/two/three people in his little tri-force trap, he can still take damage, but he doesn't suffer from flinching/interrupt?
