IDesiretoExpire
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The state of the online matchmaking in Ultimate is just laughably bad right now. It's so bad that I made an account on this forum simply to complain about it and spread awareness of how unbelievably insulting it is. We all already know them but here they are listed as detailed as I can make it.
Preferred Rules
I remember watching the direct where Sakurai explained how the preferred rules would work. Ideally they'd match you up a person/group that want to play the game you want to play it. For most of us on this forum that's gonna be One on One, no item, no stage hazard battles. In practice however, it rarely ever does so. Here how it will work most of the time. You set your preferred rules, you enter quickplay or backround matchmaking, and then you find a match. You're loaded into the training screen and you look at the amount of players. 4. Hmm that's not right? I could've sworn I put it on 1 vs 1 and set the preferred rules on. Sorry bud. Now you're stuck in a free-for-all, items, stage hazard match for 10 minutes.
You can't take the match seriously at that point and you just kinda goof off on the side of the stage. If even 1 person out of the four has a poor connection, then everyone suffers for it. So you get into a match where the rules are the farthest thing you preferred, and the lag is there to prolong your suffering. Say you queue up for one of these matches and you immediately wanna bail. Sorry no option for that for the first match. You MUST play or you will get penalized.
Penalties
Now that you got into your Uber and the driver starts driving the complete opposite direction of your destination, you think of ways to get off the ride. But sorry idiot, getting off where you are means you get charged for being dropped off too far from your destination. Same thing happens here. You get into your Free-for all and you want to get out. Let's try to SD. "you have been disconnected due to self-destruction. Do it again and you could be penalized". Let's say this time you just lost the Free-for-all. I don't feel like watching these strangers play, I could not care less who wins this match, I'll just exit it *hits start*. Okay so I can't exit the game even after I've lost all my stocks. Let's just hit the home button and get out and find another match. "You have left your last match, Do it again and you could be penalized". Okay then. The match basically turns into you sorta playing it and waiting for it to turn into a 1 vs 1 after the other 2 players have lost all their stocks. If you are one of those players, have fun surfing reddit or just doing something else besides playing smash.
Character Select
In the instance that you do find your online Smash Soulmate, you think hey this person pretty fun to fight. I enjoy hitting the rematch button and fighting against them. But I'm getting tired of playing my current character, I wanna play someone else. Wellllll you can't. You pick your character before actually queueing up to find someone and because of this, you can't ever select a different character. When the matchmaking actually does its job and it's functional, Nintendo still found a way to make it less fun than it should have been.
Arenas
Now many of you might say, Hey you should just use arena's they have consistent rules and you can play some decent matches with people. But let my tell you that I can barely wait for my bread to be finished in my toaster, so I don't have the patience to wait for someone to join my arena, or wait for a line of 3 people in front of me so I can have my 1v1. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but getting one match in the Arena always took my about 10-15 minutes to get if I didn't win that match. Maybe the ez solution is to win every match so I can play forever :').
One Step Forward and Fifty Steps back
These problems, were NOT in Smash 4's online, so why are they here now? Ultimate Came out in 2018. Two Thousand + Eighteen years. We're in and age where we can fold our smartphones and press a button so we don't have to wipe after we take a sh*t. So why are these problems here? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Well For Glory had a little smudges and nicks there, but nothing some filling and polish could fix. But instead Nintendo decided to take it and decimate it with a sledgehammer then throw it into a volcano. Instead of trying to fix the existing system, Nintendo thought, maybe we should just remake another system and hopefully it works.
Insults to the consumer
They basically took a system that was fine as is, and threw it out completely. From Smash 4 they gave us a taste of a viable way to play online. How will they improve on it in the next game? I hope it'll be great! We have to pay to play online now? Well... I guess I don't mind shelling out some extra bucks, maybe this money will go to them making the online better?
W R O N G
They just make it worse. They charged us to give us a worse product. I felt so insulted that instead of studying for finals, I wrote this. I'm a lurker, I don't post things often, so when I do post things, somethings probably wrong. You know how to fix the lag (maybe?) Buy a LAN adapter. If we're already going to pay for your new online service, I expect it to be of good quality. Why is there no Ethernet port on the switch? Why do we have to pay to make our payed internet service for our payed game on our payed console playable? It shouldn't be this way.
How do we get these issues to Daddy Sakurai?
I'm kind of at a loss of what to do. I know in the end it's just a video game, but I feel like Nintendo went really out of their way to make the online in Ultimate the worst possible state it could be in. It's currently day 2 of release and maybe someday a year or two later someone will find this thread and think "I didn't know these were problems". I don't know how to make Nintendo realize that they ruined such a large selling factor for this game. I honestly wish I could get my money back, but I bought the digital copy like an idiot lmao. I half regret buying this game in it's current state because of the online, but the rest of the game is just marvelous. I just hope someway or another, Sakurai will notice the issues.
Edit: I accidentally posted this while writing it so that's what the edit was lol
Preferred Rules
I remember watching the direct where Sakurai explained how the preferred rules would work. Ideally they'd match you up a person/group that want to play the game you want to play it. For most of us on this forum that's gonna be One on One, no item, no stage hazard battles. In practice however, it rarely ever does so. Here how it will work most of the time. You set your preferred rules, you enter quickplay or backround matchmaking, and then you find a match. You're loaded into the training screen and you look at the amount of players. 4. Hmm that's not right? I could've sworn I put it on 1 vs 1 and set the preferred rules on. Sorry bud. Now you're stuck in a free-for-all, items, stage hazard match for 10 minutes.
You can't take the match seriously at that point and you just kinda goof off on the side of the stage. If even 1 person out of the four has a poor connection, then everyone suffers for it. So you get into a match where the rules are the farthest thing you preferred, and the lag is there to prolong your suffering. Say you queue up for one of these matches and you immediately wanna bail. Sorry no option for that for the first match. You MUST play or you will get penalized.
Penalties
Now that you got into your Uber and the driver starts driving the complete opposite direction of your destination, you think of ways to get off the ride. But sorry idiot, getting off where you are means you get charged for being dropped off too far from your destination. Same thing happens here. You get into your Free-for all and you want to get out. Let's try to SD. "you have been disconnected due to self-destruction. Do it again and you could be penalized". Let's say this time you just lost the Free-for-all. I don't feel like watching these strangers play, I could not care less who wins this match, I'll just exit it *hits start*. Okay so I can't exit the game even after I've lost all my stocks. Let's just hit the home button and get out and find another match. "You have left your last match, Do it again and you could be penalized". Okay then. The match basically turns into you sorta playing it and waiting for it to turn into a 1 vs 1 after the other 2 players have lost all their stocks. If you are one of those players, have fun surfing reddit or just doing something else besides playing smash.
Character Select
In the instance that you do find your online Smash Soulmate, you think hey this person pretty fun to fight. I enjoy hitting the rematch button and fighting against them. But I'm getting tired of playing my current character, I wanna play someone else. Wellllll you can't. You pick your character before actually queueing up to find someone and because of this, you can't ever select a different character. When the matchmaking actually does its job and it's functional, Nintendo still found a way to make it less fun than it should have been.
Arenas
Now many of you might say, Hey you should just use arena's they have consistent rules and you can play some decent matches with people. But let my tell you that I can barely wait for my bread to be finished in my toaster, so I don't have the patience to wait for someone to join my arena, or wait for a line of 3 people in front of me so I can have my 1v1. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but getting one match in the Arena always took my about 10-15 minutes to get if I didn't win that match. Maybe the ez solution is to win every match so I can play forever :').
One Step Forward and Fifty Steps back
These problems, were NOT in Smash 4's online, so why are they here now? Ultimate Came out in 2018. Two Thousand + Eighteen years. We're in and age where we can fold our smartphones and press a button so we don't have to wipe after we take a sh*t. So why are these problems here? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Well For Glory had a little smudges and nicks there, but nothing some filling and polish could fix. But instead Nintendo decided to take it and decimate it with a sledgehammer then throw it into a volcano. Instead of trying to fix the existing system, Nintendo thought, maybe we should just remake another system and hopefully it works.
Insults to the consumer
They basically took a system that was fine as is, and threw it out completely. From Smash 4 they gave us a taste of a viable way to play online. How will they improve on it in the next game? I hope it'll be great! We have to pay to play online now? Well... I guess I don't mind shelling out some extra bucks, maybe this money will go to them making the online better?
W R O N G
They just make it worse. They charged us to give us a worse product. I felt so insulted that instead of studying for finals, I wrote this. I'm a lurker, I don't post things often, so when I do post things, somethings probably wrong. You know how to fix the lag (maybe?) Buy a LAN adapter. If we're already going to pay for your new online service, I expect it to be of good quality. Why is there no Ethernet port on the switch? Why do we have to pay to make our payed internet service for our payed game on our payed console playable? It shouldn't be this way.
How do we get these issues to Daddy Sakurai?
I'm kind of at a loss of what to do. I know in the end it's just a video game, but I feel like Nintendo went really out of their way to make the online in Ultimate the worst possible state it could be in. It's currently day 2 of release and maybe someday a year or two later someone will find this thread and think "I didn't know these were problems". I don't know how to make Nintendo realize that they ruined such a large selling factor for this game. I honestly wish I could get my money back, but I bought the digital copy like an idiot lmao. I half regret buying this game in it's current state because of the online, but the rest of the game is just marvelous. I just hope someway or another, Sakurai will notice the issues.
Edit: I accidentally posted this while writing it so that's what the edit was lol
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