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Shaya

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Hi guys!

Yes this is a long post. I cannot believe I used to cry trying to type a 1000 words for assignments in High School. Either way tl;dr bring up issues, things you want changed, suggestions, etc

*high pitch screeching-esque voice*
As your new leader (inb4 Galvatron) moderator, hopefully I will be able to steer us back in the right direction of depleting Earth of all its energon.
Oldschool Transformers references aside, I think it would be a good start to get as much feedback as possible, and to update/restructure the boards.

1. My stance on things

This is not my first time being a moderator. But honestly, it has been a while. SWF has global rules and the ones that apply the most around here are spam, inappropriate content (swearing, drugs, sex, w/e) and trolling. For the most part if these things are constrained to the General Discussion thread I will be reasonably lenient; I wouldn’t push your luck though - especially on inappropriate content.
Trolling that relates to someone’s personal life (e.g. UR FAT, UGLY, *and something about your mother*) would most likely come under abuse, and that is a whole different kettle of fish in terms of rule breaking. I do not think there has been many instances of this on the Marth boards though.

For a while Steel was very stern on topic creation, and it had both positive and negative impacts. On one side, there is barely anything stupid being posted on a regular basis; on the other is most of anything being primarily in the General Thread, even topics that could deserve their own threads or get drowned out by other things too quickly to get attention. I do not mind new topics being created if the question is expected to have long/multiple answers. Things like discoveries should at least be brought up somewhere (Q&A thread or GenDiscussion) before making a new topic.

2. Changes?

We have a Q&A thread which is pretty uber when the expected responses are short, but some often have fleshed out answers (and often discussions, which are pretty much the direct opposite of what the purpose of the thread is) that could/should be somewhere more easily accessible. Marth boards really need new guides written up. Another goal is to have scribes and/or scouts looking for good posts (and paraphrasing/editing them) so important and good information is readily available. Things like special usages for X move or interesting info about Y match up/stage/etc could at least have a link to the post categorised somewhere to archive it.

This type of thing requires a lot of work; honestly I am not sure if there is much will for this to occur in the Marth boards at the moment. But at least, for the archive idea, that should be possible.
A merger of the currently dead Marth Guides Collection and the Q&A topic is possible. Said scribe(s) would hopefully categorise what we currently have and keep tabs of what information is still reasonably current/valid.

The Marth video thread is also dead. So I will probably unsticky it if no one wants to take over in a constructive manner. Other boards video threads are generally X Character v Y character (e.g. Sonic v Meta Knight: LIST), and I would say these are better off in a proactively updated match up thread/guide. What we have currently with Marth Mains is a lot of OLD videos.
I think I am fine with new topics being created for videos if the player is successful in tournament. IF this is to be a common occurrence I would think they should have their own topic. Perhaps I should create (any suggestions?) guidelines for this. Specific high interest sets from large tournaments that occur from time to time should be fine to have their own topics (if they do not turn into America v Europe).

The Brawl Marth Finder thread is good and is continually updated by MysticKenji, but there are some problems. One being that it contains a lot of names of people who may not even be active anymore, and another is that most wifi activities stem from the general discussion. Perhaps there should be specifically a Wifi and Marth Finder thread. I think Junk has something similar in mind a while ago.

This is most of what I could think of for the moment in terms of changes of our current stickies... I suppose. The Frame data thread probably does not need to remain stickied at this point.

3. Issues

WHOS THE BEST?
The answer to this is simple, it is I. And if you disagree I will destroy you.
I will be reasonably blunt here, the trolling that occurs from this crap is... crap. And I will not be lenient if you want to try it.
If you think you are smart by comparing two players that not only HAVE NOT PLAYED EACH OTHER but they haven't even PLAYED SOMEONE THE OTHER HAS PLAYED, then you are bad and you should feel bad. This is pretty simple to understand, even the famous Inui Logic is better than this (i.e. I played and beat X that beat Y hence I am better than X & Y). In other words, there are absolutely no LOGICAL connections between Europe and America to be able to compare players in the way you guys are/were doing.
I am fine with people backing others skills, but if you are doing it to troll or without any real basis (that I can see), I will end it swiftly.

If you have any other issues or suggestions, please bring them up either here or privately. I am available on AIM often (even if I have skewed Australian time zones in the way) on HiyaShaya, so if you wish to discuss something just introduce yourself and talk away.
Rukkiko is a discussion leader for these boards and I am sure he will be happy to help you out as well.

I am generally pretty happy with the Marth board’s behaviour. So let us all live happily ever after, mkay?
 

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how can you be the best when i'm the best?

i don't really feel like taking up any threads but im sure the regular posters like marthshadow, albert, etc. would take on most of those threads.
 

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I love it, it's like the old days lol.

btw, there's this guy who wants a collaborative effort of all the MU threads to see if we can make a more unbias/unified mainstream panel about MUs, he'll probably contact the new owner of the MU thread. I think his name is Roxy, but someone should hit him up on this sort of thing from your neck of the woods (probably Rukkiko).
 

Neon X

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I'm a Marth mainer down from Brawl.cc
I'm the one who keeps the Marth boards alive there. I would gladly help around the Marth boards and I'm willing to take the Marth Video Thread. Well Shaya i'm Latin but I'm very fond of english and it's grammar. I know you still can't trust me with these things due to my low post count, but if you pm me and explain me a bit about the paraphrasing deal and some other issues, I will work on gaining trust from the people before I'm given the Video Thread. Thanks for everybody listening. I'm looking forward to widen my knowledge and I warmfully from the bottom of my heart want to really make the Marth boards as active and organized as possible.
 

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I would be more than happy to take care of the Marth Video Thread from now on. I watch almost every high-level Marth video as they come and it would be little more than a simple chore for me to copy and paste URLs into a thread.

I would also like to suggest the removal of Timmy's thread where he listed important threads, and I offer my hand in making a new one. This way we can unsticky a lot of threads we have stickied, and keep it all in one thread.
 

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Good luck. I'll be dropping in to make a guide every once in a while, though the respect level of these boards has dropped since my day. If your efforts are fruitful, perhaps you'll see me around here more often.
 

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Oh and the Video thread should go to either me or Punishment Divine. I'm sure that Marthshadow AKA Zane would do a good job, but Me and PD have more seniority on the boards. and maybe far more tournament experience? Also Zane is a lesbian erotic novelist. LOL

lol at pierce acting all high and mighty. Wait a second- that's The Pierce.

What kind of egotistical Marth GETS 2-STOCKED BY A LINK MAIN and then has the gall to call himself "the best?"
#1 He was kidding. I dunno if you're kidding too.

#2 you act as though you've never played against a low tier character and gotten wrecked. Everyone experiences this at least onceonce- you see very few people know all of their match-ups with the 35 (?) character cast, and then when they play someone at equal level using a character that they have no idea how to fight against, Silly things happen.

I can't believe I'm actually defending Shaya


Oh and in case you haven't noticed, unless you gimp link, Link can live to surprisingly high percents AND do some significant damage on Marth in the process. It is NOT that one-sided although Marth does win.

We can only b**** at him for losing to PT cause he has TONS of experience there :p
 

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If Marth doesn't get close range with Link he is in serious trouble. A good Link can camp the hell outta Marth. Even smart Shielders can get Zair ***** while trying to get in close quarters. Luckily if the Marth mainer knows how to embrace Marth's speed and priority he doesn't have to worry. But he needs to be constantly in Link's face without giving him chance of spamming projectiles. Also a fast falled fair out of the ledge or a RARed bair can come out faster than Link's typical Gale boomerang to protect his recovery. Also a fast falled fair and bair have the hitboxes to nullify the boomerang if hit correctly and with the Blunt part of the sword. So yeah basically the key of this MU is speed and close range control. Basically secured offense and punish Link's shielding attemps with grabs and or risk hitting the shield with Shieldbreaker the. Spam Dancing Blade on the reduced Shield.
 

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meh, its alright.

not like i do anything important here anyways. lol

the threads will most likely go to the other important posters around here like rukkiko, PD, Albert and junk.

Oh and the Video thread should go to either me or Punishment Divine. I'm sure that Marthshadow AKA Zane would do a good job, but Me and PD have more seniority on the boards. and maybe far more tournament experience? Also Zane is a lesbian erotic novelist. LOL
that's probably another way to see who gets what in the marth boards v2.

you will never let me live that name down will you? =_=
 

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that's probably another way to see who gets what in the marth boards v2.

you will never let me live that name down will you? =_=

THE NAME IS IN YOUR AVI! lolol

regarding threads:

I don't really care anymore, Somebody should get the video thread, Somebody should get the guide to guides cause ZMT quit Marth, and somebody should spend the days neccesary to preen through the Old Q&A thread to find quality posts, and make a new thread. Not that there's anything wrong with Pierce's, but when it has so many pages it's kind of intimidating to new players/ hard to navigate.

That's why the main General Q&A thread gets a re-haul every now and then, they're on like Version 4 now?

EDIT:
I was kidding. I guess I should have made it more obvious.
Adding ":p" to everything like that just makes everybody happier LOL
 

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Well guys im willing to help around but i dont know who's the person who calls the shots round here. There are far more deserving people than me to take the other threads. I can at least start making my presence important by doing some work around the Marth boards. Someone just tell me and take advantage if me while im free if college work -_-
 

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My vote goes to Albert because:
1) Seniority
2) He's seen a lot of marth videos
3) We can't have someone named marthshadow running the jMarth videos. Marth wouldn't approve.

Whoever runs the new thread, separate videos into styles within matchups. Mike played Ally very differently from how NEO played Ally. Have both of them up vs Snake. Let the viewer decide what's best for them by showing both.

And I personally don't like how EC Marth's play at all.
 

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Teams guide was hard to keep going in the past, but I think I could now force it through on a consistant basis at least.

Also what are peoples thoughts of splitting up the general discussion into a social thread and a metagame thread?
I think I have seen the Peach boards do this, and probably others. This means that talk of tournaments, marth as a character in brawl specifically, etc etc would reman in the new topic whilst the social aspects (the weather [lol], anime, music, etc) can remain with the current thread.

Oh yeah, Albert, please refrain from the lesbian etc stuff.
Please guys this is meant to be a serious thread.
 

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I can manage a new guides thread. I think I'd be good at that. I've read through all of the ones posted and I've even written a few of them myself. I also read here pretty much every day so it wouldn't be a problem to keep that updated.
 

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My thoughts-
BRZ- new guides thread
Junk or Minty-Metagame thread
Me or PD- Video thread
Me and/or PD And/or ZaneShadow Combing through the old Q&A thread for useful posts, to make a compilation.
 

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LOL Neon's post was so funny too

mod *****
Wow i definitely wanna work out in these threads. Security for the members is extremely tight. I got an infraction for Flaming on myself LMAO. Ok seriously guys i really want to help around. Is there something i could do to help and contribute to the Marth boards?
 

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Wow i definitely wanna work out in these threads. Security for the members is extremely tight. I got an infraction for Flaming on myself LMAO. Ok seriously guys i really want to help around. Is there something i could do to help and contribute to the Marth boards?
Yes.

Look through every single page of the Q&A thread and find all of the useful questions and their legitimate answers and then put them in a Word document

Generally the only good answers are from

Steel
Pierce
Junk
Kadaj
NEO or MikeHaze(if they post there)
C.J.
others?

OH AND SHAYA, OBVIOUSLY. my mistake lol
 

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I think combing through the entire Q&A topic at this point will be an extremely hard job.
If people are really willing to do this, then that is SOOO great!
I was more aiming towards a proactive approach from this point onwards.

One of my goals/general guidelines for the Marth boards at this point is to make sure information is current.
Im aiming towards a 6 month period before things are at least reviewed/replaced.
Videos should be more strict - things over 3 months old should be avoided, anything over 6 shouldnt be there.
 

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K man. Well see you all next year. Lol ok seriously its gonna be a long night but im willing to help around with the boards. Ill check back in when i have all the answers posted. Also i think should copy key questions. well its all up to you guys. Im a nub in here and i dont wanna steal your jobs and neither do i wanna look like a little fanboy. Also somebody tell Virgilius i wasnt flaming nobody. I only flamed myself ;-;.
 

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I think combing through the entire Q&A topic at this point will be an extremely hard job.
If people are really willing to do this, then that is SOOO great!
I was more aiming towards a proactive approach from this point onwards.
It might help if posts were split up

Like somebody gets posts 1-54698735 (like a third?) and somebody gets posts 54698735- 9956235636. and so forth

I think combing through the entire Q&A topic at this point will be an extremely hard job.
If people are really willing to do this, then that is SOOO great!
I was more aiming towards a proactive approach from this point onwards.

One of my goals/general guidelines for the Marth boards at this point is to make sure information is current.
Im aiming towards a 6 month period before things are at least reviewed/replaced.
Videos should be more strict - things over 3 months old should be avoided, anything over 6 shouldnt be there.
I think we should keep some of the older NEO/RoyR/Mike videos because they really show good old, back to basics Marth.

These videos are not to be under-valued!
 

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Oh guys i suggest we dont thrash old matchup discussions. Instead we should contrast them to the new matchups and discuss how has Marth metagame gotten better and how it is progressively changing.
 

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I have a somewhat different philosophy.
What has made Marth a more competitively sound character over time is the fact that our best players are really evolving how to use our basics. Relatively good techniques or style quirks in specific situations have long turned into multiple possibilities rather than just DANCING BLADE, FAIR OOS!
I dont think things like that are seen as well in older videos.

However I am fine with certain videos if they are seen to still be reasonably current.
 

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Well its whatever you say Shaya. You took the initiative to fix the Marth boards so i think you deserve to move around stuff as you please. Of course some good opinion of people is good and constructive.
 

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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
If you have anything else shout me a PM or a message on AIM.

Albert, Bengalz, Junk, Rukkiko, Minty, Punishment Divine and marthshadow, I would like to all chat to you personally about how you want things working out in areas you commented on/suggested. Hopefully we can get some work started soon.
 
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