Hey guys. This is very important.
We still don't have the exact frame data for every characters ledge options.
So I want to sent this call out to everyone of you:
Everyone who owns a 60 frame capture device (like Elgato HD60) can help me. Tell me what character you want to do and I will complete the (planned) table/ more and more.
What you have to do to read frame data:
- download VLC Player
- Record yourself doing the ledge options in Training Mode while holding shield to determine the Duration of said option.
- Let a Smart Bomb spawn. Pick this up with the second character. Throw the smart bomb on the ground, then perform the get-up options to determine the invincibility.
- Save the recording as mp4 and play it in the downloaded VLC Player. You advance by 1 frame by pressing "E". Use this to count the frames of the get-up options in your recording.
Important: The Shield Bubble is visible on frame 2 of shielding, that means if the shield pops up on frame 30 the duration of the Ledge Option is 28.
If someone comes up with a good way to determine the duration of Ledge Attack Hitboxes I'd appreciate it to tell us !
UPDATE: Japanese da bess.
http://sixriver.web.fc2.com/ssb4/Character_data.htm
you can here click on any characters name (they are sorted as sorted in the 3DS CSS) and read the frame data from them. Ledge Options are on the third page of the excel under 崖.
How to read:
Option|Start|Total|Ending|Invincible|Invincible Duration|Attack Frame
Forced Hold||20||||
Climb||32|1|1-31|31|
Roll||49|22|1-27|27|
Jump||12||1-12|12|
Attack||54|34|1-20|20|23
Thanks @ A_Kae for this.
I was planing to do this alone but this is a massive workload to do alone.
Please use the following template to post your results:
Mario
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-32 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-23 / 24-? / 44
Luigi
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-32 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 15
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 20-? / 55
Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
Ledge Get-up : 1-32 / 33
Ledge Roll: 1-21 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-17 / 20-? / 55
Rosalina & Luma
N/A
Bowser Jr.
N/A
Wario
N/A
Mr. Game & Watch
N/A
Donkey Kong
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-30 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-25 / 55 (54?)
Diddy Kong
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-26 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 54
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-33 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-18 / 21-? / 54
Marth
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-25 / 54
Pikachu
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-25 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 53
Charizard
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-25 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-21 / 24-? / 55
Lucario
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-15 / 18-? / 51
Jigglypuff
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-28 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-18 / 21-? / 55
Greninja
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-29/ 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-19 / 22-? / 55
Mewtwo
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-37 / 21-? / 55
Ryu
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-31 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-21 / 24-? / 55
Mii Brawler
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-29 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 55
Mii Swordfighter
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-19 / 22-? / 55
Mii Gunner
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-31 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-17 / 20-? / 50
Testing Purposes:
Charakter | Ledge Get-Up | Ledge Roll | Ledge Jump | Ledge Attack
Mario | 1-33 / 34 | 1-32 / 49 | 1-12 / 12 | 1-23 24-x / 44
Charakter :icon: | 1-33 / 34 | 1-32 / 49 | 1-12 / 12 | 1-23 / 24-x / 44
If any character board has already done ledge frame data please tell me and post a link to the frame data thread.
We still don't have the exact frame data for every characters ledge options.
So I want to sent this call out to everyone of you:
Everyone who owns a 60 frame capture device (like Elgato HD60) can help me. Tell me what character you want to do and I will complete the (planned) table/ more and more.
What you have to do to read frame data:
- download VLC Player
- Record yourself doing the ledge options in Training Mode while holding shield to determine the Duration of said option.
- Let a Smart Bomb spawn. Pick this up with the second character. Throw the smart bomb on the ground, then perform the get-up options to determine the invincibility.
- Save the recording as mp4 and play it in the downloaded VLC Player. You advance by 1 frame by pressing "E". Use this to count the frames of the get-up options in your recording.
Important: The Shield Bubble is visible on frame 2 of shielding, that means if the shield pops up on frame 30 the duration of the Ledge Option is 28.
If someone comes up with a good way to determine the duration of Ledge Attack Hitboxes I'd appreciate it to tell us !
UPDATE: Japanese da bess.
http://sixriver.web.fc2.com/ssb4/Character_data.htm
you can here click on any characters name (they are sorted as sorted in the 3DS CSS) and read the frame data from them. Ledge Options are on the third page of the excel under 崖.
How to read:
Option|Start|Total|Ending|Invincible|Invincible Duration|Attack Frame
Forced Hold||20||||
Climb||32|1|1-31|31|
Roll||49|22|1-27|27|
Jump||12||1-12|12|
Attack||54|34|1-20|20|23
Thanks @ A_Kae for this.
I was planing to do this alone but this is a massive workload to do alone.
Please use the following template to post your results:
Code:
Charakter's Name :Icon:
Ledge Get-up : Invincible Frames / Duration
Ledge Roll: Invincible Frames / Duration
Ledge Jump: Invincible Frames / Duration
Ledge Attack: Invincible Frames / Hit Frames / Duration
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-32 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-23 / 24-? / 44
Luigi
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-32 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 15
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 20-? / 55
Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
Ledge Get-up : 1-32 / 33
Ledge Roll: 1-21 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-17 / 20-? / 55
Rosalina & Luma
N/A
Bowser Jr.
N/A
Wario
N/A
Mr. Game & Watch
N/A
Donkey Kong
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-30 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-25 / 55 (54?)
Diddy Kong
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-26 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 54
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-33 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-18 / 21-? / 54
Marth
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-25 / 54
Pikachu
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-25 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 53
Charizard
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-25 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-21 / 24-? / 55
Lucario
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-15 / 18-? / 51
Jigglypuff
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-28 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-18 / 21-? / 55
Greninja
Ledge Get-up : 1-31 / 32
Ledge Roll: 1-29/ 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-19 / 22-? / 55
Mewtwo
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-37 / 21-? / 55
Ryu
Ledge Get-up : 1-33 / 34
Ledge Roll: 1-31 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-21 / 24-? / 55
Mii Brawler
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-29 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-20 / 23-? / 55
Mii Swordfighter
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-27 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-19 / 22-? / 55
Mii Gunner
Ledge Get-up : 1-43 / 44
Ledge Roll: 1-31 / 49
Ledge Jump: 1-12 / 12
Ledge Attack: 1-17 / 20-? / 50
Testing Purposes:
Mario | 1-33 / 34 | 1-32 / 49 | 1-12 / 12 | 1-23 24-x / 44
Charakter :icon: | 1-33 / 34 | 1-32 / 49 | 1-12 / 12 | 1-23 / 24-x / 44
If any character board has already done ledge frame data please tell me and post a link to the frame data thread.
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