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Leffen's US Visa Application has been Denied


God-slayer William "Leffen" Hjelte has shaken up the world of competitive Melee in the last few years. Aside from his pristine Fox play, the 21-year-old Swede is well known for his often times villainous persona and for being the first player to take down all five of Melee's "Gods". Leffen was on a tear in 2015, winning many major tournaments such as CEO 2015, HTC Throwdown, BEAST V, and more. As Leffen was hot off his HTC Throwdown win, many were looking to him as one of the favorites to win The Big House 5. However, he was rejected entry into the US when travelling to The Big House 5 -- and it was announced today that his subsequent Visa request has been denied.

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The announcement was dropped via Red Bull eSports, where Leffen also shared his thoughts in a Red Bull exclusive interview. Additionally, a teaser trailer was released for Cultivation: Leffen Resurrection, a video series that will follow Leffen's travels through Canada as he competes against the best again.

The teaser for Cultivation: Leffen Resurrection, set to premiere in Summer 2016
Be sure to keep up with Leffen as he competes in Canada. This weekend, he will face off against Armada, Hungrybox, Mango, Mew2King, and more at the Enthusiast Gaming Live Expo in Mississauga, Ontario. He will then compete in Vancouver, British Columbia at the Battle of BC on May 14th, then finishing his run one week later at Get On My Level 2016 in Toronto, Ontario, where he will compete against Hungrybox, Mew2King, Westballz, and many more.

Stay updated with Leffen on Twitter @TSM_Leffen, and join in on the conversation on Twitter using the hashtag #FreeLeffen.
 
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So why does Armada get to come all the time? What's so special about Alliance and how they operate that allows him to come to America so frequently?
 
I don't know the details with immigration enough to determine whether the delay is justified or not(obviously Leffen isn't doing anything stupid), but it is a huge loss not to see Leffen attend these tournaments.
 
So why does Armada get to come all the time? What's so special about Alliance and how they operate that allows him to come to America so frequently?
It has something to do with the fact that TSM is an American organization and Alliance is a European one.
 
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America thinks he's coming in to do illegal ****, and not actually play Melee.
It's stupid.
Leffen can't skirt the law by not paying income tax on the money he earns in the United States. It's a pretty simple issue. He's a jackass besides, and isn't welcome here in either case.
 
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Damn. Just. Wow. How come his visa requests were denied?
"Super Smash Bros. Melee isn't seen as a sport" was stated by Leffen in the visa contract reading in the video (it's easy to miss since Leffen reads about 4 lines at once thanks to the video editing).

Note that League of Legends, DOTA 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, StarCraft II, and many other video games are seen as equivalents of sports in the eyes of customs, as are many trades, some of which aren't even actually sports or truly sports-related.

Seeing as how Leffen is sponsored by Team Solo Mid (one of the largest esports competitive organizations in the world) and Red Bull (one of the biggest brands to ever come from Australia), Leffen obviously had good legal representation.

The problem is... getting work visas for video games right now is a case-by-case, video game-by-video game basis.

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This also has been an issue in some traditional contact sports. MMA, the oldest sport in existence (well by extension, since it's fighting, and nothing is older than fighting in human history but sex, birth and death), has seen this issue arise numerous times.

One of the 5 best 205 pound MMA fighters in the world, Glover Teixeira, couldn't get into America for over a 4 years because of visa issues. Glover had fought in America for 5 1/2 years on 0 occasions, and like Leffen, randomly had his work visa revoked.

This visa issue prevented Glover from signing with the UFC (the biggest organization in the sport with the highest pay) for years, and when he did finally get the work visa to go to America he got signed by the UFC.

Glover lost out on hundreds of thousands of dollars at least in potential income, which probably lost the states he would have fought in even more money than that (sports, like esports, are based on performers who draw in interest and thus money, and Glover became one instantly).

While Super Smash Bros. Melee doesn't draw the audiences or money of MMA, and Leffen doesn't draw the viewers or money of Glover Teixeira or the UFC, Leffen does indeed equal a draw, which leads to an increase in stream viewers, tournament entrants, and tournament interest, all of which give streamers, event organizers, and event hosts increased income (of which states can tax from).

Thus, not having Leffen around is having a negative impact on the American economy, even if Leffen is taking his tournament income and spending it mostly in Sweden (because he inevitably brings about business in America that is greater than his tournament winnings, especially when you factor in his domestic travel and housing expenses).

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So, in the long run, denying performers/athletes is a bad thing for nations to do, which is why countries usually don't make a habit of it.

Alas, the post-9/11 mindset of "foreign = bad" as well as the general Baby Boomer (aka "waste all the resources and money in the world) mindset of "video games = not a sport and not a real competition" are hurting American income due to short-sighted "get off my lawn" mentality.

For whatever reason, these people at the American customs offices think Leffen is lying, don't realize the impact or size of Red Bull and TSM are (to have their employee able to travel to events), and honestly don't really care about anything but themselves.

I'm not expert on the specific details of work visas and athlete visas, but the job is almost definitely easier denying such claims rather than accepting them thanks to how anti-immigration American laws in general are (which is hilarious since less than 10% of Americans have ancestry that is predominately from indigenous groups).
Ignoring the personal stuff at him.

Is this why he was denied?
No, sports earning taxes aren't federal but state taxes based on the state they are won. The taxation of sports earnings is very straight-forward. It is so straight-forward it is on a "per-basis" system.

Take for example, the NFL. The NFL has 16 games a year in the regular season. You earnings for your yearly salary is dived into 1/16th's, and each 1/16th is taxed by the state each of those games is played in (note this doesn't apply to signing bonus, in which case it would apply to the state the team plays in).

Each game is taxed based upon state income tax rates. Obviously it is higher in states such as California and New York compared to states such as Idaho or North Carolina.

There are also 7 states without income taxes at all, so the income earned in these states would be immune from any state taxation. These states are Washington, Nevada, Wyoming, South Dakota, Texas, Florida, and Alaska (note: many major fighting game events take place in these states, notably Dreamhack Austin, CEO, and EVO).

In the case of Smash, usually state governments see the money as too minuscule to enforce the tax for taxation, or in the case of large events such as a LCS Final, The DOTA Summit, Dreamhack, or ESL, it is often taxed automatically so the person or persons receiving the income earnings from the tournament doesn't have to do additional work (like the NFL example earlier).

There can be a few caveats here and there, but the globalization of travel, trade and income has made the income, accounting, and taxation system of America pretty straight-forward in this regard to avoid controversy. It was made specifically very simple for this reason as well.

If this was an issue, America wouldn't attract international sports stars to play on American teams such as retired MLS superstar David Beckham, the NBA's Paul Gasol, or the MLB's David Ortiz, as well as hundreds of other professional and amateur athletes who aren't American citizens.

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In the case of sponsorship taxes, that is done federally based on country of origin, in which case Leffen's earnings from TSM, Red Bull, and any other sponsors he had would not be something US tax officials have any legal claim over. Leffen's taxation in regards to sponsorship income would thus be exclusive to his home nation of Sweden.

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As for said person's claims from the post you are quoting, the person you are quoting is a Leffen hater, who, unlike yours truly, doesn't have any credits, certificates and degrees in taxation accounting and business at the collegiate (and probably even the high school) level. They are merely trying to garner up more hate on Leffen.

Said person did just quote this post above yours...
Guy seems like an ***, what goes around comes around.
These two posters are just posting out of feelings of inferiority rather than taxation insight.

I hope they realize they are strong enough to get over that all on their own and choose to value themselves better and get a more positive outlook so they can contribute to making themselves and the world better, all of which can lead to a chain of new and exciting opportunities for them that otherwise they won't have.
 
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"Super Smash Bros. Melee isn't seen as a sport" was stated by Leffen in the visa contract reading in the video (it's easy to miss since Leffen reads about 4 lines at once thanks to the video editing).

Note that League of Legends, DOTA 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, StarCraft II, and many other video games are seen as equivalents of sports in the eyes of customs, as are many trades, some of which aren't even actually sports or truly sports-related.

Seeing as how Leffen is sponsored by Team Solo Mid (one of the largest esports competitive organizations in the world) and Red Bull (one of the biggest brands to ever come from Australia), Leffen obviously had good legal representation.

The problem is... getting work visas for video games right now is a case-by-case, video game-by-video game basis.

\\

This also has been an issue in some traditional contact sports. MMA, the oldest sport in existence (well by extension, since it's fighting, and nothing is older than fighting in human history but sex, birth and death), has seen this issue arise numerous times.

One of the 5 best 205 pound MMA fighters in the world, Glover Teixeira, couldn't get into America for over a 4 years because of visa issues. Glover had fought in America for 5 1/2 years on 0 occasions, and like Leffen, randomly had his work visa revoked.

This visa issue prevented Glover from signing with the UFC (the biggest organization in the sport with the highest pay) for years, and when he did finally get the work visa to go to America he got signed by the UFC.

Glover lost out on hundreds of thousands of dollars at least in potential income, which probably lost the states he would have fought in even more money than that (sports, like esports, are based on performers who draw in interest and thus money, and Glover became one instantly).

While Super Smash Bros. Melee doesn't draw the audiences or money of MMA, and Leffen doesn't draw the viewers or money of Glover Teixeira or the UFC, Leffen does indeed equal a draw, which leads to an increase in stream viewers, tournament entrants, and tournament interest, all of which give streamers, event organizers, and event hosts increased income (of which states can tax from).

Thus, not having Leffen around is having a negative impact on the American economy, even if Leffen is taking his tournament income and spending it mostly in Sweden (because he inevitably brings about business in America that is greater than his tournament winnings, especially when you factor in his domestic travel and housing expenses).

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So, in the long run, denying performers/athletes is a bad thing for nations to do, which is why countries usually don't make a habit of it.

Alas, the post-9/11 mindset of "foreign = bad" as well as the general Baby Boomer (aka "waste all the resources and money in the world) mindset of "video games = not a sport and not a real competition" are hurting American income due to short-sighted "get off my lawn" mentality.

For whatever reason, these people at the American customs offices think Leffen is lying, don't realize the impact or size of Red Bull and TSM are (to have their employee able to travel to events), and honestly don't really care about anything but themselves.

I'm not expert on the specific details of work visas and athlete visas, but the job is almost definitely easier denying such claims rather than accepting them thanks to how anti-immigration American laws in general are (which is hilarious since less than 10% of Americans have ancestry that is predominately from indigenous groups).

No, sports earning taxes aren't federal but state taxes based on the state they are won. The taxation of sports earnings is very straight-forward. It is so straight-forward it is on a "per-basis" system.

Take for example, the NFL. The NFL has 16 games a year in the regular season. You earnings for your yearly salary is dived into 1/16th's, and each 1/16th is taxed by the state each of those games is played in (note this doesn't apply to signing bonus, in which case it would apply to the state the team plays in).

Each game is taxed based upon state income tax rates. Obviously it is higher in states such as California and New York compared to states such as Idaho or North Carolina.

There are also 7 states without income taxes at all, so the income earned in these states would be immune from any state taxation. These states are Washington, Nevada, Wyoming, South Dakota, Texas, Florida, and Alaska (note: many major fighting game events take place in these states, notably Dreamhack Austin, CEO, and EVO).

In the case of Smash, usually state governments see the money as too minuscule to enforce the tax for taxation, or in the case of large events such as a LCS Final, The DOTA Summit, Dreamhack, or ESL, it is often taxed automatically so the person or persons receiving the income earnings from the tournament doesn't have to do additional work (like the NFL example earlier).

There can be a few caveats here and there, but the globalization of travel, trade and income has made the income, accounting, and taxation system of America pretty straight-forward in this regard to avoid controversy. It was made specifically very simple for this reason as well.

If this was an issue, America wouldn't attract international sports stars to play on American teams such as retired MLS superstar David Beckham, the NBA's Paul Gasol, or the MLB's David Ortiz, as well as hundreds of other professional and amateur athletes who aren't American citizens.

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In the case of sponsorship taxes, that is done federally based on country of origin, in which case Leffen's earnings from TSM, Red Bull, and any other sponsors he had would not be something US tax officials have any legal claim over. Leffen's taxation in regards to sponsorship income would thus be exclusive to his home nation of Sweden.

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As for said person's claims from the post you are quoting, the person you are quoting is a Leffen hater, who, unlike yours truly, doesn't have any credits, certificates and degrees in taxation accounting and business at the collegiate (and probably even the high school) level. They are merely trying to garner up more hate on Leffen.

Said person did just quote this post above yours...

These two posters are just posting out of feelings of inferiority rather than taxation insight.

I hope they realize they are strong enough to get over that all on their own and choose to value themselves better and get a more positive outlook so they can contribute to making themselves and the world better, all of which can lead to a chain of new and exciting opportunities for them that otherwise they won't have.
Its really not that complicated. Leffen was denied entry at first because he mentioned to customs that he was coming to the US for work or business. That alone is enough to get you deported without a visa.

As a smasher that has traveled a lot to the US you need to say that its for personal reasons or for fun if not you're gonna need that visa. You have to treat it like a night to Vegas, win $ then go home happy but he ****ed up.
 
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I hope they realize they are strong enough to get over that all on their own and choose to value themselves better and get a more positive outlook so they can contribute to making themselves and the world better, all of which can lead to a chain of new and exciting opportunities for them that otherwise they won't have.
Leffen broke the law when he earned money from Team SoloMid under a tourist VISA. TSM may be "one of the largest competitive esports companies in the world", as you say, but don't mislead folks: it's still an American company.

TSM picked up Leffen back in March, 2015. He then participated in numerous nationals on American soil while being paid by an American company, all the while using a tourist VISA. It's pretty simple. He did this for a string of months until his denial into the US last October.

He would have kept the gig going, to be sure. But a worker VISA would make him (explicitly) liable for federal taxes :p

Nice degree, by the way. Though it would seem the United States government still doesn't agree with you.
 
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I don't know as much as I'd like to about the reasons for the denial, but even so this is pretty unfortunate. Hope it gets turned around.

That said, "The Rejection | Cultivation: Leffen Resurrection" is a very stupid name.
 
"Super Smash Bros. Melee isn't seen as a sport" was stated by Leffen in the visa contract reading in the video (it's easy to miss since Leffen reads about 4 lines at once thanks to the video editing).

Note that League of Legends, DOTA 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, StarCraft II, and many other video games are seen as equivalents of sports in the eyes of customs, as are many trades, some of which aren't even actually sports or truly sports-related.

Seeing as how Leffen is sponsored by Team Solo Mid (one of the largest esports competitive organizations in the world) and Red Bull (one of the biggest brands to ever come from Australia), Leffen obviously had good legal representation.

The problem is... getting work visas for video games right now is a case-by-case, video game-by-video game basis.

\\

This also has been an issue in some traditional contact sports. MMA, the oldest sport in existence (well by extension, since it's fighting, and nothing is older than fighting in human history but sex, birth and death), has seen this issue arise numerous times.

One of the 5 best 205 pound MMA fighters in the world, Glover Teixeira, couldn't get into America for over a 4 years because of visa issues. Glover had fought in America for 5 1/2 years on 0 occasions, and like Leffen, randomly had his work visa revoked.

This visa issue prevented Glover from signing with the UFC (the biggest organization in the sport with the highest pay) for years, and when he did finally get the work visa to go to America he got signed by the UFC.

Glover lost out on hundreds of thousands of dollars at least in potential income, which probably lost the states he would have fought in even more money than that (sports, like esports, are based on performers who draw in interest and thus money, and Glover became one instantly).

While Super Smash Bros. Melee doesn't draw the audiences or money of MMA, and Leffen doesn't draw the viewers or money of Glover Teixeira or the UFC, Leffen does indeed equal a draw, which leads to an increase in stream viewers, tournament entrants, and tournament interest, all of which give streamers, event organizers, and event hosts increased income (of which states can tax from).

Thus, not having Leffen around is having a negative impact on the American economy, even if Leffen is taking his tournament income and spending it mostly in Sweden (because he inevitably brings about business in America that is greater than his tournament winnings, especially when you factor in his domestic travel and housing expenses).

\\

So, in the long run, denying performers/athletes is a bad thing for nations to do, which is why countries usually don't make a habit of it.

Alas, the post-9/11 mindset of "foreign = bad" as well as the general Baby Boomer (aka "waste all the resources and money in the world) mindset of "video games = not a sport and not a real competition" are hurting American income due to short-sighted "get off my lawn" mentality.

For whatever reason, these people at the American customs offices think Leffen is lying, don't realize the impact or size of Red Bull and TSM are (to have their employee able to travel to events), and honestly don't really care about anything but themselves.

I'm not expert on the specific details of work visas and athlete visas, but the job is almost definitely easier denying such claims rather than accepting them thanks to how anti-immigration American laws in general are (which is hilarious since less than 10% of Americans have ancestry that is predominately from indigenous groups).

No, sports earning taxes aren't federal but state taxes based on the state they are won. The taxation of sports earnings is very straight-forward. It is so straight-forward it is on a "per-basis" system.

Take for example, the NFL. The NFL has 16 games a year in the regular season. You earnings for your yearly salary is dived into 1/16th's, and each 1/16th is taxed by the state each of those games is played in (note this doesn't apply to signing bonus, in which case it would apply to the state the team plays in).

Each game is taxed based upon state income tax rates. Obviously it is higher in states such as California and New York compared to states such as Idaho or North Carolina.

There are also 7 states without income taxes at all, so the income earned in these states would be immune from any state taxation. These states are Washington, Nevada, Wyoming, South Dakota, Texas, Florida, and Alaska (note: many major fighting game events take place in these states, notably Dreamhack Austin, CEO, and EVO).

In the case of Smash, usually state governments see the money as too minuscule to enforce the tax for taxation, or in the case of large events such as a LCS Final, The DOTA Summit, Dreamhack, or ESL, it is often taxed automatically so the person or persons receiving the income earnings from the tournament doesn't have to do additional work (like the NFL example earlier).

There can be a few caveats here and there, but the globalization of travel, trade and income has made the income, accounting, and taxation system of America pretty straight-forward in this regard to avoid controversy. It was made specifically very simple for this reason as well.

If this was an issue, America wouldn't attract international sports stars to play on American teams such as retired MLS superstar David Beckham, the NBA's Paul Gasol, or the MLB's David Ortiz, as well as hundreds of other professional and amateur athletes who aren't American citizens.

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In the case of sponsorship taxes, that is done federally based on country of origin, in which case Leffen's earnings from TSM, Red Bull, and any other sponsors he had would not be something US tax officials have any legal claim over. Leffen's taxation in regards to sponsorship income would thus be exclusive to his home nation of Sweden.

\\

As for said person's claims from the post you are quoting, the person you are quoting is a Leffen hater, who, unlike yours truly, doesn't have any credits, certificates and degrees in taxation accounting and business at the collegiate (and probably even the high school) level. They are merely trying to garner up more hate on Leffen.

Said person did just quote this post above yours...

These two posters are just posting out of feelings of inferiority rather than taxation insight.

I hope they realize they are strong enough to get over that all on their own and choose to value themselves better and get a more positive outlook so they can contribute to making themselves and the world better, all of which can lead to a chain of new and exciting opportunities for them that otherwise they won't have.
As an Australian, I can say Red Bull doesn't really count, since they basically sponsor anyone and anything they can get there hands on.

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Damn. Just. Wow. How come his visa requests were denied?
Because he broke immigration law.

Honestly this entire debacle is just one massive egg in the face for what in the world TSM thought they were doing or what they thought was going to happen.

Redbull's contribution was to attempt to get him an athlete's visa (as opposed to the tourist visa he was originally using and should not have been, or the work visa TSM should have gotten him in the first place), which is the denied request he's reading in the video. Pretty simple there, Super Smash Brothers isn't applicable for an athlete's visa, and it's not like the process is in a vacuum; they know they're dealing with someone who was already denied a work visa.
 
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I wonder if the government just Googled "William Hjelte" saw "God Slayer" and went "no, no, no, not today"
 
My question is why is #freeleffen a thing?

Do you expect American customs to suddenly switch their decision and award Leffen a Visa because of some silly gamers are hashtagging it? I am 100% convinced that zero ****s are given by customs. I'm also convinced that the entire hashtag mentality is ridiculous and achieves nothing unless certain rare circumstances. Not this one. Seriously, hashtags are pure cancer.

Leffen was denied a Visa. It happens all the time. if it's because of tax evasion or whatever, it's entirely on Leffen and hopefully he learns a lesson and does things legally and properly for the next time.

#ihate#'s
 
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Regardless of whatever people might think about Leffen(including myself) I have to say that this ****ing sucks, Leffen is an incredible player that puts so much into the plate of high level melee... we gotta have him back at some point, jfc.
 
Leffen was denied a Visa. It happens all the time. if it's because of tax evasion or whatever, it's entirely on Leffen and hopefully he learns a lesson and does things legally and properly for the next time.
No, this one can't be put on Leffen, it falls squarely on TSM for not supplying their player with the proper visa.

What's even stupider about the hash tag and petitions is that people actually think it will have any effect on Leffen's issue.

Let's say, for example, it supposedly works, esports players can now get athlete visas into the country; that still won't fix Leffen's problem. He's being denied a visa due to TSM trying to game the system and getting caught doing it.

The weirdest thing is that Redbull should know all this. Honestly, this is either their bottom of the barrel last ditch attempt that has no chance of working, or they appealed the original athlete's visa denial already and they're just hyping up their Leffen documentary.
 
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