Ledge Canceled Teleport

[Airo]

nope


its one of the strange properties of mewtwo's runningA
try shielding after the runningA, you will fall off the ledge instead.

 

[quak]

not for me, that's one of my many mindgames, i can stay on stage and grab or go off, fastfall, and rising aerial...

maybe im hold away or something unintentionally though, duddent matter

 

[Tongji]

Well insted of using the Forward dash attack, could m2's roll work?? it will get you right to the edge like the dash. Hopefully with a better chance of not being hit imo if this idea could work I think that it would be better than the dash attack.

well It just so happens that Im goin to a tury this weekend. There will be a setup there and I plan to get a few games in. In the games Ill try and show you the vertical tele uses and my version on LCT on FD.

And Airo thanks once again

 

[Airo]

its not so much about standing on the edge, runningA has a weird momentum that carries you nearly off the stage...

i did some more testing and discovered something more.. ill have it recorded and uploaded when i have the time.

 

[lavagolem123]

So that's what it is? Looks interesting. I take back my words, looks quick enough to sneak in a decent attack if they're close enough to you. I'll be practicing this tomorrow after school =P

 

[Airo]

recorded and uploading...

the videos should speak for itself, but ill do a briefing as well.

backwards wd off ledge to LCT

and

running off ledge to LCT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBhyoVjWQE

 

[thebluedeath1000]

thanks airo, this helps me understand what you were talking about much easier.

good going taking out your agression on samus lol.

 

[quak]

definatly a useful tactic, i can see it especially with the backwards wd, bait them, then mindsgame em (that's what it's all about!

Ima get this down for sure, may take some time to master, but it seems like it works consistantly when you teleport in the right spot the right way

 

[doyoung2win]

says the same guy who flamed it earlier this thread.
anyway thats quite an angle there but im sure you'll master it and take the metagame to an even higher level (this game is nuts). It's a similar tactic as useful and semi-easily learned as doing a firefox at a 2 degree angle up fd to sweetspot the ledge. I've also seen KoreanDJ use sheik to cancel the up b against the ledge and then di back to grab the ledge, giving him enough time to let the opponent roll onto the stage so he can grab the ledge and not be vulnerable and helpless stuck in the lag.

 

[quak]

psh, that's far from flaming, and i wasn't, i suggested it might be a little slow, but obviously we weren't thinking of the same thing at that time.

actually, it's been awhile since i've really flamed someone, for me anyway.......

*prepares for next opportunity by looking up insulting jpg's*

 

[DelxDoom]

Ooh.
I don't think I can do this.
I just end up grabbing the ledge.

I'm really bad with M2..

 

[Airo]

ive been teleporting for a long time ._."

once i get this down perfect, ill make a collaborate video of everything

 

[Tongji]

Yes at that moment it doesn't see that you have it down pat. I was practicing earlier today and neither do I ._.'' It's definatly going to take some practice on my part. howver I see it as a usefull teck, that definatly can serve it's purpose in the generall scope of things.

Airo thanks for all of your hard work and contributions

I would totaly +rep you if i could :D

 

[Taj278]

Nifty little trick. Nice find.

 

[Airo]

yay... taj responded ^^

 

[Wilhelmsan]

I've actually experienced this before several times. My most recent attempts to use it in battle have been pretty successful.

The goal to perfecting this tactic is making M2's teleport path collide with the edge at an angle approaching horizontal. Do your trig, it's fairly simple. You're trying to appear as low to the stage as you can.

......M2
..../,..............
M2..\
.......\

My general M2 recovery mindgame scheme:

Fastfall, Doublejump, Tele up sweetspot x ?
Fastfall, Doublejump, "Ledgecancelled Tele", Roll

If you can get the timing perfectly, this has NO LAG allowing you to do pretty much anything immediately afterwards.

Nice job on capturing this on video Airo. I beleive this technique is easily fast enough to be used against decent human opponents.

 

[MetaKnight0]

I change my mind on this.

This looks ****ing beast. I will learn this, and jab cancels now. Good find Airo.

 

[Blunted_object10]

Good work Airo!

 

[DelxDoom]

Am I allowed to bump this?
This needs some more updating please..

 

[Airo]

update?.... well, if anyone has mastered this, pls post vids.

it should definitely be much easier to learn than swd, powershield, moonwalk, etc, etc, etc....

 

[ArcNatural]

I would be surprised if Taj doesn't use this at least once in his new Mewtwo combo video when it comes out.

 

[DelxDoom]

He should use it lots!
LCT = L33t Cake Technique?

semi off topic @ airo:
why'd you get off BC pr? I was reading it the other day because it was funny short, and had gimpyfish.
also, you could PM m2k for his vid? idk. I couldn't find it.

About running A
- Holding AWAY from the edge when you do a running A makes m2 fall off.
- Holding TOWARD the edge also makes M2 fall off.
- Holding SHIELD makes M2 fall off.
- If you don't hold anything, he'll stay in the "balancing precariously on the edge" position.

 

[Airo]

heh.. sry if i disappoint you. i fell off BC PR. there were new guys that came out of nowhere and they were bloody competitive with fox. but i know i improved loads since that update.
anyhow, to me, what matters is enjoy playing smash and playing mewtwo. yeah? ^^

about the vid, yeah i think ill PM him.. that vid DID have some strange but sick combos.

 

[Taj278]

I probably won't use this in my vid as it's not something I can really apply. Also I already have all the footage I need. Anything I start recording now will probably go toward Shadowclaw 3!

 

[DelxDoom]

Shadowclaw 3!
TM 65!
Amazing sig Taj as usual.
Please more funny-named trixies. also if you're a mod can't you change your title?

I just thought about it... if you're going to OC3/FCD you should be able to record awesome amazing matches.
Shadowclaw 3 should be out in like, no time at all

 

[Airo]

Taj we want the matches uploaded too!!!
combo videos are really cool and inspiring, without lies.
but real matches show off your actual metagame, which is what sickens competitive people.

 

[DelxDoom]

Okay.
I have noticed a consistent thing.
The distance from the edge when you teleport must be... that specific LCT distance.
It's NOT really really close. it's a bit further away...

edit: plus this