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Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

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Been a LONG time since a mafia game has made me go outside and take a walk.

I want the doc clear. Zen/Xonar talk to me about the gain and the consequences from such a claim.

Zen, talk to me about Nabe, dammit.
 

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Because he's acknowledged to being linked with Ruy who's played awful and you being indy is the only thing keeping them from being the for sure lynch today.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Nah.: Nabe > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > Nah. > THE GOGDAMN BATMAN > Zen > Nabe
Xonar: Nabe > T-Block > Ruy
Raz:
Gorf: Ran > Ran > T-Block > DH > Ruy
DH: Nabe > T-Block
Ruy: Xonar > Xonar > T-Block > Raz > Zen
Zen: Nah. > Nabe > Nah. > Nabe > Ran > T-Block > Ryker > T-Block > Ruy
Ran: Nah. > Xonar
Nabe: Nah. > Nah. >
Kantrip: Nabe > Xonar >
T-Block: Ran > DH > Ran > DH > Ruy
JTB: Kantrip >

Count
Ruy (4): Xonar, Gorf, Zen, T-Block
Xonar (1): Ran
Nabe (1): Nah.
T-Block (1): DH
Zen (1): Ruy

Not voting: JTB, Kantrip, Nabe, Raz

With 12(+1 voteless) alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is Friday, May 25th, at 11:59 PM EST!

Unrelated but interesting note: I hate Mario Party.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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When people were going after the mafia lover bull****.

Washes made a correction in our quicktopic that we were supposes to be confirmed town when our role PMs don't state it.

:phone:
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Ryker you really shouldn't post what I wanted to say.

Hate how Zen and Xonar are white knighting each other. Let each other off as town for no actual reason.

Zen's previous post aknowledging what I posted on Xonar without going into why is dumb.

:phone:
 

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This mod ****ery is getting really frustrating. -_-

From a setup perspective, I can't see how Xonar, Ryker and Nabe can all be Town if their claims are true. Vig with multiple shots running around, AND a compulsive gunsmith?

Would most be willing to lynch one of them toDay, this lovers **** is starting to get really annoying though.
 

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ryker, zen is town. i know this. stop wasting your time, and don't do anything stupid.
Where is this coming from?

I'm actually with Ruy here in that the white-knighting is getting frustrating, especially with Xonar's claim, Zen is deflecting any pressure that comes up.
 

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Raz said:
From a setup perspective, I can't see how Xonar, Ryker and Nabe can all be Town if their claims are true. Vig with multiple shots running around, AND a compulsive gunsmith?
Might have something to do with certain attacks affecting only certain types. Like how Kantrip is immune to ground types, etc.
 

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Might have something to do with certain attacks affecting only certain types. Like how Kantrip is immune to ground types, etc.
If that's the case, Xonar's claim is ****ing ridiculous.

PGO AND immune to Poison, which is probably a delayed kill if present. Seems kinda bogus for his role to exist if scum has nerfed kills.
 

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Yeah it is bs. Doesn't make him scum.
Role doesn't fit as Town based on the setup. How does it NOT make him scum?

He's essentially made himself BP by pulling that claim, which is a pretty damn safe choice as Maf or Indy, because it means he's really only in danger on lynch.

I need to go back and check, but he not claim fairly unprovoked?
 

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Nevermind, not important right now.

Talk to me about the pros and cons of lynching the claimed lovers, Zen. What makes it worth the possible loss to you?
 

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They lied about their role.
Gorf has been saying all d1 and most of today how bad he wants to get rid of Ryu. When he actually sees that we will do it he backs of talking about how he doesn't want to die. Then all the sudden he talks about how he is going to step while we are voting Ryu haha. Seriously just read through Gorf and how all the sudden he is having a change in heart once we start to vote Ryu. Read the whole section from when I first vote Ryu up to this point. Then look back at his opinion on Ryu before then. This is strongly telling that they claimed lover because it would prevent them from being lynched. Now Gorf is claiming that Laundry made a mistake (Ryu happens to be online at the same time when they get this message. Even though he claimed that Laundry posted it in the quicktopic. I would understand if he PMed them, but for them both to be checking their qt at this exact time?). Likely they thought since it worked with Kantrip that it will work with them.

We still have the numbers and it's not like Laundry would put in Lovers if there wasn't something to balance out. So if we are wrong it's not like we will be in lylo.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Zen I liked it better when you weren't be the overanalytical zen. You can go ahead and admit that you just really really hate ruys play and lynch em with honesty and dignity cuz honestly, mang, he's an utter nuisance with th way he's playing and I don't get why he is. Plus he's not getting NK'd any time soon, so after I get what's gotta get done done, I will not oppose offing us. But I'd at least want you to strip your pride, zen, and admit the REAL reason why we're dying rather than construing some bullshiz. It's seriously okay.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Cuz at this point, after I catch up and put the good word in for town, it'd probz be best to get me and Ruy out of the game.

I claim town cheerleader, my ability grants additional PP to a player after my death. Seeing how xonar is one of my most definite town reads, he's getting it most likely. NO RYKER, YOURE NOT. Ultimately us dying at this point will help the game progress; there's literally zero AtE, where do you see it O.o?
 

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T-block join Ryu wagon with me.
Zen why did you ask Tblock your scumread, to join RR with you, and then after the GoRRyu situation settled down you went back to Tblock?

Also I don't remember if you replied to it (catching up), what did you think of his response to you?
 

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Last page tells me TBlock is under pressure i.e. this is scummier than the groundwater at Chernobyl
If you feel it's scummy why don't you vote? You support his lynch or no?
 

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Cuz at this point, after I catch up and put the good word in for town, it'd probz be best to get me and Ruy out of the game.

I claim town cheerleader, my ability grants additional PP to a player after my death. Seeing how xonar is one of my most definite town reads, he's getting it most likely. NO RYKER, YOURE NOT. Ultimately us dying at this point will help the game progress; there's literally zero AtE, where do you see it O.o?
Vote: T- block
Why are you backing off Gorf? I have an idea, but I want to confirm my suspicions.
 

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it's also true i haven't had strong scum reads throughout the game. however, i've been firm in my ryker town read since its inception. i now stand firm on saying you're town. wanna know why i don't have as strong scum reads as you were apparently expecting? raziek, nabe, jtb - absent. RR, gorf, kantrip - claims messing with my read. DH i actually pushed for pretty hard D1 iirc, which you neglected to mention, and i admit it was bad play to stop because i'm pretty sure he's scum now.

your case contains a lot of bad meta. we haven't even played that many games together, zen - what are you basing this on? i can show you games where i've been super into things as scum. i can show you games where i've been lurkish as town. statements like "town t-block gets into things" and "town t-block is more analytical" hold no water.
Tblock, why no mention of me? You have been asking me questions this whole time and no stance on me? Also why do you say "I now stand firm on saying you [Zen] are town"? (I see no point in it)

Also you saying "Ran asks so many stupid questions" Yet you don't address any of them so I can explain my thought process?

I don't think your town reads on Ryker/Zen are convincing AT ALL, and that doesn't help anyone find scum.
 

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Unvote

Next vote will be my final vote rather than just keep switching. Will probably go back to Ruy.

on kantrip: it's not that i question laundry clarifying. it's that i question laundry making the mistake that lead to the need for clarification in the first place. "attack" instead of "lethal action"? in a pokemon context? it's just... such a stupid mistake.
what... how? You're taking it wrong. He DIDN'T mean to put lethal action. He meant to put "attack" but Kantrip misunderstood that so he clarified that only killing actions aka lethal action is what he meant by attack. It is perfectly reasonable for him to clarify that.

@Gorf: When did laundry clarify that you too were confirmed with eachother? And you're wrong. All of what I said was legit. Your actions as of late are inconstant with your earlier thought process. Your sudden change on Ruy just adds to why I want to lynch Ruy. Of course it's not my only reasoning. I've given my reasoning multiple times. I was just answer Raz.
 

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Zen did Gorf unclaim lovers and claim something else? Or is this just a unique thing yet still he's lovers? :urg: < I used this emote to convey confusion. Need confusion emotes SMASH BORDZ
 

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He's still claiming lovers with the claim. He's just now saying his individual ability and that he and Ryu are confirmed town with each other.
 
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