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lag canceled fair

Seagull Joe

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i use this all the time but never see other bowsers do it and i wonder why because it is such a good thing to do.short hop fair lag cancel.anyone else do it?
 

Brndn

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all the time. Its what my bowser mainly focuses on, opposed to other bowsers who genreally use the side-b more. I hink there are alot of other bowsers here who actually use that. Its like an unspoken topic though. Very useful.
 

MrEh

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Are you refering to an autocanceled Fair?

Then yeah, I use it into Jabs and Fsmash a lot. It's not the best thing though.
 

Seagull Joe

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just no one ever talks bout it so i thought i bring it up.u merely hit hold down press jump and fair u lag cancel for those who dont know.
 

Flayl

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It's a rising FAir and I personally hate it when people calling it an autocanceled FAir. You're not cancelling anything, the move finishes before you reach the ground.
 

Liquid Gen

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It's not called autocanceling, lol.

Auto cancelling is basically L-canceling without input; all of Samus's and Peach's aerials are autocanceled.

And no, the fair doesn't finish before you hit the ground, you hit the ground during a specific frame during the animation where it incurs no lag.

But yes, you are right that it isn't autocanceled.
 

A2ZOMG

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We all know about it and use it. Though it's a good approach Bowser plays defensively so he doesn't need to use it too much.
Autocanceled F-air is garbage for approaching. It's good to make sure Bowser doesn't get ***** by landing lag, but the hitbox goes sorta high, and can be tricky to use on shorter characters. And it's pretty much only safe if it's retreating. If you actually approach with it, several characters will just do *insert aerial out of shield* to punish you.

Now I dunno about you, but seriously...Klaw Hopping is the one thing Bowser should be doing if he needs to approach, or of course walk up -> shield -> punish out of shield.
 

B!squick

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Autocanceled F-air is garbage for approaching. It's good to make sure Bowser doesn't get ***** by landing lag, but the hitbox goes sorta high, and can be tricky to use on shorter characters. And it's pretty much only safe if it's retreating. If you actually approach with it, several characters will just do *insert aerial out of shield* to punish you.

Now I dunno about you, but seriously...Klaw Hopping is the one thing Bowser should be doing if he needs to approach, or of course walk up -> shield -> punish out of shield.
Exactly. They wont be expecting it... it's all about the mind games. :O But you are correct, Klaw Hopping is awesome and if WiFi didn't suck I'd totally do it more.
 
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