L-Cancelling

[PwnYouBoomerangStyle]

1. Do you have to press L all of the way, or can you lightshield to Lcancel?
2. Do you only have to L cancel if the attack is still in the attack animation, or if you use it high off the ground, and the attack finishes, do you still have to L cancel?

 

[HeadISBAgent]

1. Do you have to press L all of the way, or can you lightshield to Lcancel?
2. Do you only have to L cancel if the attack is still in the attack animation, or if you use it high off the ground, and the attack finishes, do you still have to L cancel?

1. No, you don't have to press L down all the way. However, if your shield comes out after you L cancel, you've held the button down too long.
2. Only L cancel if the attack hasn't completed its animation, if your attack finishes before you hit the ground you will simply air dodge (or waveland :D)

 

[PwnYouBoomerangStyle]

Thanks. =]
Oddly I can't seem to L cancel unless I press it down all the way, so I wasn't sure.

 

[cradmazy_SKAG]

1. Do you have to press L all of the way, or can you lightshield to Lcancel?
2. Do you only have to L cancel if the attack is still in the attack animation, or if you use it high off the ground, and the attack finishes, do you still have to L cancel?

you can L cancel 20 frames before you land, which is exactly 1/3 of a second.

i recommend purposely hitting the L trigger as lightly as possible.

if you cant get the timing right, i would try to do it too early on purpose.

instinct tells you to press it as you land. thats wrong. press before

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

you can L cancel 20 frames before you land, which is exactly 1/3 of a second.

i recommend purposely hitting the L trigger as lightly as possible.

if you cant get the timing right, i would try to do it too early on purpose.

instinct tells you to press it as you land. thats wrong. press before

20 frames is the timing for teching, not L-cancelling. L-cancelling should be done 6 frames before you hit the ground, or the frame that you hit it, so just a bit more than 1/10 of a second.

 

[CrimsonQueso]

try getting really drunk before you play. Your perception time will slow, so it will seem like you're L-cancelling everything. You will be awesome.

 

[KillL0ck]

try getting really drunk before you play. Your perception time will slow, so it will seem like you're L-cancelling everything. You will be awesome.

This man is a Genius, listen to every word he says.

 

[PwnYouBoomerangStyle]

Lol, I will try it. Or try smoking hella weed before you play. Your mind games will be rediculous.

 

[phanna]

To lag-cancel an aerial, you have to hold L or R (to any registered pressure) or Z across as least 1 frame starting 8 frames before you land. That is, press L, R, or Z (hard or soft) during the 7/60th of a second time frame ending as you land on the ground while performing an aerial.

All characters have landing lag. They have significantly more if they land while performing an aerial. Lag-cancelling reduces the lag of performing an aerial while landing. If you aren't performing an aerial, or already finished one, you cannot lag-cancel, and will have your normal (short) landing lag.

Sliding (edge-cancelling) can reduce landing lag (from an aerial or not) down to as low as 1 frame. Therein lies its advantage.

Recap:
• L, R, or Z - how hard or long you press does not matter
• 7 frame window, ending as you land

 

[pchoo]

To lag-cancel an aerial, you have to hold L or R (to any registered pressure) or Z across as least 1 frame starting 8 frames before you land. That is, press L, R, or Z (hard or soft) during the 7/60th of a second time frame ending as you land on the ground while performing an aerial.

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Recap:
• L, R, or Z - how hard or long you press does not matter
• 7 frame window, ending as you land

Does this mean that you don't need to hit L/R/Z to lag-cancel? As in, will I lag cancel if I short hop, down air (c-stick), hold L from then on until I hit the ground, and let go during the shortened landing animation?

Normally I'd just go test this myself, but my brother's watching TV. >.>

 

[theONEjanitor]

no pchoo, that won't work.

he said you must hold L for at least 1 frame (and at maximum, 8 frames)

 

[-Kazman-]

real smashers R-Cancel

 

[phanna]

You can hold L, R, or Z as long as you want. You just have to hold it for at least one frame, during the 7 frame changes ending when you land. That means within the 0.12 seconds before you land, you need to START holding L, R, or Z, and you can hold it for 1 frame, or until your shield breaks, it doesn't matter in terms of reducing landing lag.

 

[Rang Flash]

If you press L softer you can essentially press it faster.

 

[spriteanimator]

its to stand up faster after a landing of an attack example fox in air down-a

 

[theONEjanitor]

no pchoo, that won't work.

he said you must hold L for at least 1 frame (and at maximum, 8 frames)

i should add, 'if you don't want to be shielding when you land'