l-cancelling with z

[beencake]

does any one find L-canceling with Z during spacie shield pressure alot more deceiving then L?

 

[Bones0]

I heard Mango uses Z to L-cancel.

 

[beencake]

rofl go to hell imo

 

[ETWIST51294]

Hbox actually does use z. No bull****.

 

[beencake]

yeah i know a few people that use Z its so akward for fox / falco though.

 

[Pi]

i use z to l cancel w/ samus

i use to use L but i switched how i hold/use the controller and while i used to be able to shield presssure w/ spacies very consistently, the z button does feel akward to consistently shffl nairs or shffl nair/dair shine

 

[KishPrime]

Wow Jigglypuff players the same. I always used Z too. Still do...not 100% sure it's the best, but at this point there's no hope for changin'.

I never found anyone else who did this back in the day.

 

[beencake]

3 how do you ledge hop missle regrab ledge with samus i cant seem to do it, do you just have to do it extremely fast?

 

[ILM]

Someone brought it up in another topic once, but Z does have its advantages. Since it isn't used to tech as well, trying to L-Cancel and getting hit will still allow you to tech right after, unlike using L.

 

[Korrupshen]

I use z 100% the time. I heard the common button for cancelling was L, but it felt weird to me so I adapted to using the z button.

 

[Bones0]

Someone brought it up in another topic once, but Z does have its advantages. Since it isn't used to tech as well, trying to L-Cancel and getting hit will still allow you to tech right after, unlike using L.

I actually like that pressing L techs because you can get a lot of accidental techs when you are trying to attack. Like if you try to shffl a nair and the opponent up-bs OOS, you will often tech the up-b immediately. Even if you did not think that was a benefit, you can press L/R in only slightly to avoid unwanted tech attempts.

 

[TheManaLord]

Just don't l cancel. It takes way more time to learn and that payoff isn't that great, just play smarter not mindlessly fast and technical.

 

[Zantetsu]

Just don't l cancel. It takes way more time to learn and that payoff isn't that great, just play smarter not mindlessly fast and technical.

1/10 troll points

 

[Problem2]

I switched to using Z after using R for 5 years. I still use R for regular paced shffls, but for weird timings, I use Z. It's a lot easier imo.

 

[hungrybox]

I use z for everything

and up to jump

and up r down to wavedash

 

[Superspright]

I use Z to l-cancel as well. But, I play an odd claw style so my finger is always on Z. It's more natural. I don't miss techs because of it. I do finesse my controller a bit, but once in a while you pass the threshold on the L-cancel. I'd rather be safe. Plus, I can smash the hell out of Z if I wanted to, and I'd still L-cancel. Can't say the same for L trigger.

 

[crush]

I l cancel with r

 

[Pi]

3 how do you ledge hop missle regrab ledge with samus i cant seem to do it, do you just have to do it extremely fast?

yea basically
i flick away from the ledge, then mash toward the stage & b & jump all basically at the same time
but i guess i'm jumping 1 frame before i'm inputting toward & b

i press both B & Y with my thumb at the same time

my thumb is positioned like this (lol this looks so stupid):

image not to scale

 

[beencake]

lol that is insane...

 

[beencake]

i remember i was playing at pound 5 and i saw you doing it i was like wtf? but yeah i just with x so that might make it a little awkward.

 

[SpeedyJ]

Its too awkward. I hate the Z button lol. I use L.

@3
I like your picture. =^_^=

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I use Up to jump as every character.

R for every shield-related thing.

Z for grabs that aren't shield-grabs.

C-Stick for all aerials except nair.

Come at me bros.

 

[Zantetsu]

I use Up to jump as every character.

R for every shield-related thing.

Z for grabs that aren't shield-grabs.

C-Stick for all aerials except nair.

Come at me bros.

I use down to jump

b for every shield related thing

a for every grabs that aren't shield grabs

c stick for all aerials INCLUDING nair

You ain't got nothin'

 

[Sinji]

I started practising it while back. I find it easy cause i use Z for nair.

 

[xPuffPuffx]

i personally use the zbutton to l-cancel feels really natural to me.
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