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Kowns Thread.

Admiral Pit

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Many ZSS now-a-days just get rid of their armor pieces against me. Some must know that I work well with items most of the time. *shrugs* After the armor piece fest, it's that range that gets to me, especially that U-air... I do blame Side-B too, but again, it really isn't a MU that I enjoy, except learning to make use of those armor pieces.
 

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Thanks gad. I was sure one of the japanese pits had played zss b4 cuz i remember seeing em. Never studied this mu, really. Figured i should get on it since Fl has like...4+
 

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I've felt that pain a lot, and I can't camp for long or I'd get launched outta the ledge post via getting D-smashed like a landmine vs a gopher. x-x

EDIT: OOO! I know I'm wifi only, but Peach/Pit is one of those safe (mid tier) teams, and I knoew a few things about em. I'll tell you in the next post. Sorry if you don't want a wifi Pit's input.
 

Admiral Pit

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Um, I need help making a format that I should make, and then I can help, like Character roles, Damage racker, etc. I just feel dumb without one. x-x
 

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Peach offense

Pit defense

(being able to swtich on the fly helps against some teams though).

Flat stages are best. Battle field can hurt synergy due to platform interference but u can easily work around that.

Delphino is nice. Peach 2v1 while u shark makes super easy to land bairs.
Halberd is just as good delphino.
Final D for obvious reasons.

Those 3 are the best i've found.

Great damage racking. Peach assists pit in killing as well as the other way around so it makes it less of a problem. It's pretty much game in a 2v1 scenario. Pit can help peach when she's getting edgeguarded with arrows by shooting her assailants. Arrows are amazing assits with peach on the frontlines. Great synergy.
 

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Yes sir I am.

Peach: Offense or defense?
Pit: Same question ^^^
Stages to avoid?
Stages to CP?
List of Pros and Cons
Let's see what I can do.


-Peach: Offense or Defense?
I find Peach more offensive thanks to the ability to rack up damage with those D-airs while floating and such, quick and effective damage against opponents with low %.

-Pit: Same as above
Pit can be offensive to rack up damage too (like to CG specific characters, or just F-throw to Stutterstep F-smash), but Pit's better at defense and support, let alone arrows and reflectors. Add Pit's excellent ledgecamping game to that (which can help with Stock tanking when used well), and the team can last long.

-Stages to Avoid
I am not certain about this one since I only know of Pit's bad stages, although Peach can be good on YI which can help Pit out. It kinda varies with the player and how well they do on stages.

-Stages to CP
I'm not sure bout this one myself, though I find myself using BF or SV often so Peach could use the platform for turnips, while Pit can freely use arrows at recovering opponents without fear of hurting Peach instead. This one's beyond me atm.


Pros
-A team that has great potential to build up damage fast.
-Fairly good gimping potential.
-From my experience, has quick, easy to perform, and effective killing set-ups (I can tell about that one later on).
-Peach can handle Pit's bad MUs of Wario and Oli

Cons
-Doesn't have raw power for KOing.
-Both characters are on the lightweight side.
-Both characters have shared bad MUs against Marth, G&W, and (soon-to-be-banned) MK.

I'm not good at the Pros/Cons thing.


Here's some (Will-be-bashed because it's Wifi) vids of me teaming up with a Peach, again, online only, and kinda old. Don't bash me too much. D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emU-ispJrjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqyWm0xzoiY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fspyYDfoX3U


-Stuff to know:

A Pit can help a Peach recover if she misses the ledge. If Peach keeps her umbrella up, even if she didn't make it, a nearby friendly Pit can save her using D-air. This is shown from 3:51-3:57 of the first vid.

There are 2 follow-ups that we do sometimes are the following:

-Pit grab > Peach Footstool > Pit F-smash

-Peach Grab > Pit Footstool OR Pit Up-B windpush behind Peach > Peach U-smash

It's hard to explain without demonstrating, but these are quick and easy to do. I'm not sure how it'll be offline, but they are ideas. For the 2nd one, I prefer doing the windpush one. Maybe one time I can show you.

My curiosity is wondering how well Peach is on Halberd, so maybe that 2nd Followup could kill faster.

This is the best I got. I wasn't really good at discussing dubs anyways. I'm sorry, but hope some of this helps.


EDIT: @ Fyre: Sorry to keep you waiting! :laugh:
 

Admiral Pit

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I um, try. >//< Hope you and Kyon show them what a cute couple--- err, an underrated mid tier team can do! ^_^;

I still wished I could show you those team tricks somehow though.
 

Maharba the Mystic

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@fyre

this is really all you need to know about pit peach teaming

he goes MK a couple times but the set majority is pit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9tbpNLd9sg

edit:

my bad, it's the last 2 games he goes pit on. but that youtube link on the sidebar has their other matches available.

double edit:

this set is even better because of more pit use. still high level players. jerm was the best TL on rank at the time and trela is trela

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93JmTC8FIgs&feature=related


okay triple edit:


i watched them and then found the one with mid-tier doubles. here is all pit peach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsjxGc1Kwks&feature=related
 

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Still more than 1 Peach, just different colored dress, and a Daisy with Peach's voicebox inside of her. You can imagine.
 

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I wish I had a :wolf:/:pit: pun, but I can't think of anything.

I'll MM any :pit: at apex :bee:. Hi Tara, Aj, and AP.

:018:
 

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Oh hey joe, just MM me at xanadu. "Can't let you do that, starwolf" reminds me of when we were at caitie's house and her dog went for your sandwich, but you quickly pulled it out of the way just in time. rofl
 

Admiral Pit

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Something tells me that you really do hate me... but don't want to admit it.
 

Maharba the Mystic

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****. now that i've said im retired, i still want to attend this http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13686999#post13686999
for singles and doubles aside from just mid tier doubles. and apex. but if i attend this, then im not retired. and if i do attend singles and doubles, im gonna get pissed and retire again and look dumb. wat are my options? not to metion i don't even want to actually use any character but pit, **** ICs. but like i said i don't know what my options are

edit:
@fyre,

i go find all those vids for you and you don't even say thank you. rude :urg:

just kiddin your a boss
 

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Maha. Just take a break, play for fun or something for a while. All players hit this point.

It's hard for people to "retire" with such a great community that typically loves to hang out with and improve their players (locally and regionally at least).

:phone:
 

Kuro~

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^^^^ What juusiichi said. Your at a plateau. So play for fun. Use other chars. for fun. Just enjoy friends. I still go to tournies but i haven't entered a tourney for a month and a half and don't really plan to till after apex. Being able to go and relax and hang out and not worry about being called for matches is fun sometimes :laugh:
 
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