Kirby's Inhale has SA frames

[brinboy789]

I used search and i didnt find this anywhere, not even on the guides, so im not suer if this is known, but while i was sucking up a marth he used fsmash i got damage and i still sucked him up. again, sorry if this was known, i couldnt find it anywhere

 

[Kirby Magatsu]

Well, i haven't see this is FAQ's too, but i think the major part of the Kirby players know this, figuring out in battles.

But anyway, there are people that doesn't know this, then, thx.

 

[powuh_of_PIE]

It's technically not SA... Inhale counts as a grab, so like all grabs the grabber takes damage but the grab happens anyway. I suppose it has the same effect as SA, but I think it might have a different name that I don't remember.

 

[~Gonzo~]

The SA occurs at the moment the opponent loses his footing, meaning when they go into the initial stage of the twirling animation. Although u can't see it that's when it occurs. I've utilized the SA frames even against DK's donkey punch, which hit me from very far away. Does DK's arm count as something that can be inhaled? Which brings up a very very interesting question. what exactly triggers an opponent to go into the "twirling" or i guess grabbed state? I understand range is an issue. But when an opponent hits u and then immediately starts getting inhaled what happened? Did using the attack move the opponents body box close enough to Kirby to get "grabbed" Kirby's inhale has some very strange intricacies that i still don't completely understand yet due to the lack of times i've had the opportunity to observe them and my friends spacing against inhale.

 

[powuh_of_PIE]

The way I understand it is that the moment the opponent starts into the "twirling" animation is like the moment a normal grab would attach to the opponent. Perhaps to stop this animation from being a liability to Kirby, they added some SA frames that simulate the effect of a grab having priority over normal attacks. (I'm pretty sure they do, if I'm wrong someone please tell me)

In every other way, Inhale behaves like a grab except for the fact that at a certain range it pulls people into "grab range". At this point Kirby does not have SA, however, because the "grab" hasn't happened. As for the case with DK, it may be that since the Punch extends his hurtbox with his arm, he placed himself in "grab range" for Inhale, you took damage but Inhaled successfully just as any grab would.

 

[Asdioh]

A Dedede had SA while Inhaling, when I Falcon Punched him in Sudden Death D:
(just pointing out that Dedede has it too)

I don't know exactly how it works, but it's incredibly useful, since I take damage about half of my successful inhales. :/

 

[Tainted_Knives]

Did using the attack move the opponents body box close enough to Kirby to get "grabbed"

^ This is what I've always assumed...I don't see any other explaination...

 

[brinboy789]

A Dedede had SA while Inhaling, when I Falcon Punched him in Sudden Death D:
(just pointing out that Dedede has it too)

I don't know exactly how it works, but it's incredibly useful, since I take damage about half of my successful inhales. :/

why would you use falcon punch in sudden death? lol

 

[t!MmY]

Inhale
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Since this is treated as a "Grab" Kirby has heavy frames that all Grabs get.

Are you sure it's not in the guide?
(You can call it "Armor" frames, "Heavy" frames, "Juggernaut" frames, or pretty much anything else I've seen.)

 

[Asdioh]

why would you use falcon punch in sudden death? lol

Because it's Basic Brawl, and therefore has a great chance of landing.

(even though he survived that, I later just used upthrow for the win)

 

[brinboy789]

Are you sure it's not in the guide?
(You can call it "Armor" frames, "Heavy" frames, "Juggernaut" frames, or pretty much anything else I've seen.)

oo..mustve missed it

Because it's Basic Brawl, and therefore has a great chance of landing.

(even though he survived that, I later just used upthrow for the win)

lol. newb basic brawlers ftw