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First of all, it was SIMPLE minded. You've been saying single minded the whole game.Now, this is what this post is all about:
Common is single-minded. He claimed to be Pooh. Pooh is dumb. My conclusion? Pooh doesn't give a **** who he has to side with = Pooh is independant.
Why thank you. I have taken over this game haven't I?Common just lynches people in a random order. He takes the lead and we just follow him, saying he 'could be right'. That would explain why he also killed a mafia, it doesn't matter to him who is the bad guy and who isn't. And common plays with us so well that we totally trust him (looking at Blazer's post #1429 for example).
They were not stupid mistakes. The first one was out of ignorance. I didn't know everyone would be so opposed to it. It worked fine in FoodCourt Mafia. (All the Pizza places ended up being Mafia. Sonic the Drive Through ended up being the independant who ran people over.)The second one was a plan. Why wont anyone believe me? I had planned to lure attacks, and it worked so there's nothing to discuss. I dont quite remember the third one, but again, I have every reason to expect it to work.I'm sure Blazer for example won't believe me. You have started in this game just after the break. You didn't experienced what kind of stupid mistakes common made back there. He wanted nameclaims, we didn't want them at that time because that would give the mafia an easy pick for a lynch. We told him we didn't want that and still he asked for it, about 3 times. Common was acting too strange and wether he learned from that lesson after frozen's lynch or not, he still just goes around, spreading names around the topic to just randomly lynch people.
Yeah... lynching a guy just because you want to be sure is a bad move, especially with so few of us left. Come back with more/any hard evidence.I'm 99,9% sure about my vote and the only way to get it on 100 is by a lynch on common. I wish I could say I was 100% sure but I am not. Still, I'm pretty dammed sure about this.
I trust Common COMPLETELY, and I trust Defjam quite a lot too. The next most suspiscious in my book are Blazer and Kuji, nigh tied.
I've still got my eye on you common if this doesn't work out.
Common: I trust Common completely, there are slight doubts here and there but in general I feel like Common is our most trustworthy player.
Well, well, well... >_< The flip flopping here is astounding. By the way...[BThis is only because she is more suspicious. If this doesn't work out then I'm out for a Common lynch next.
What exactly do you mean by the word "out"? Does it mean you're agreeing on lynching me tommorrow if Jazzy is innocent or not?[BThis is only because she is more suspicious. If this doesn't work out then I'm out for a Common lynch next.
Also, from earlier research from around page 30-45 heacted ona lot of impulse with little judgement. Seems to me like he would be most likely to daze me honestly. So if Ronike is right and there is someone with a daze ability then it's probably Common. Or someone with an agenda against Common. I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions though.
I know that, but it doesn't really matter. Single and simple looks the same to me: being dumb.First of all, it was SIMPLE minded. You've been saying single minded the whole game.
Is that so? Then I would only come up with Tarzan who is (imo) the only other character in this game that could be considered 'dumb' too.This isn't really evidence. I can do what you just did with practically any Disney character and come to the conclusion that he is an enemy of the town.
I don't care you took it over. You took the lead and there is nothing wrong with that, but we are all following you blindly without facing some of the consequences.Why thank you. I have taken over this game haven't I?
Again, there is no real evidence here. It's just a bunch of unsupported theories. I do not lynch people in random order.
See above explanation.I killed FalcoX because I knew he was Mafia. Heck, I was 100% sure. I lynched DotCom because we didn't have a night kill that night, looked up his profile, and found out he hadn't been active during that nightspan. So no, I dont kill people on whims.
Could be over-confident, could be something else.My killing Oblivion/Lance was a mistake, I'll admit. I had every right to interrogate him, but I had kinda already decided his fate from the beginning. Maybe it was because I had chosen correctly two days in a row. I was over-confident.
Yes, we did follow you. But even though you knew he was Hercules, you still putted a vote on him.None of you can blame me for my vote agaisnt Deathreaver. Didn't I saw way back in day 4/5 that I believed him to be Hercules, twon aligned? You people talked me into it. I never pushed for his lynch before that at all.
Your first one WAS a stupid mistake. Think of it mate, everybody was against it except for you. We all knew that name claiming was not a good option. We all knew that WAY before you came up with the idea of doing one. You were the only one who thought it could work (as you said it yourself).They were not stupid mistakes. The first one was out of ignorance. I didn't know everyone would be so opposed to it. It worked fine in FoodCourt Mafia. (All the Pizza places ended up being Mafia. Sonic the Drive Through ended up being the independant who ran people over.)The second one was a plan. Why wont anyone believe me? I had planned to lure attacks, and it worked so there's nothing to discuss. I dont quite remember the third one, but again, I have every reason to expect it to work.
What was it again, that you can get some hidden hints about people? How the hell does a ability like that connect with Pooh?And now that you all know my special ability, doesn't it make sense that I would support a name claim? Think about it. I would know if someone were lying.
True, but I think you or jazzy are the only suspicious guys now. If you die and you seem to be town, we lynch jazzy the other day and still win.Yeah... lynching a guy just because you want to be sure is a bad move, especially with so few of us left. Come back with more/any hard evidence.
Maybe that is why you were so quite before some big names died eh? (for example, frozen and ligolski). Only after that, you came up because your fear for the big boys was gone.Oh, and just so you know... If I was independant, since I obviously wouldn't be Mafia, I would have killed a whole bunch of you (namely DefJam/Ronike/DiamondFalcon) those nights where there were no kills. I obviously couldn't have been role-blocked because I looked into a few players' hearts. And if I really was Mafia/Independant, I wouldn't have gone after inactives to lynch during the day because Inactives help me stay alive if the town should ever turn against me. I probably could have convinced others that you, Kuji, were Mafia too due to the flip flopping you did earlier in the game. You've said I was good at convincing people to follow my wishes in this game. I could have made it happen.
Well, somebody has to do it.I dont think you're Mafia/Independant, for the record, because it would have been a very stupid move for you to outright acuse someone so late in the game with so few players left.
Now look at this:Common: I trust Common completely, there are slight doubts here and there but in general I feel like Common is our most trustworthy player.
Flopperdy flop. You do say that you always had some doubts about Common though, but after my big *** posts you completely agreed with me and voted against him.I was always suspicious of you Common. I may trust you a lot more now but I've always had doubts just from reading what you attempted earlier. Don't try to throw blame on me because I "suddenly suspect you". It's always been there and it will be until the end of the game.
Is that so? I remember that you said that Common was one of the least suspicious players.Also notice how I said IF Jazzy isn't our mafia/independent then you would be my next target. I find you next most suspicious if this is wrong and with good reasoning too.
You don't like it how he let's people vote on others? Then why did you tag along with him in the first place?You have led us into our past two mess ups after all and this would in fact, be a third one. Would you not suspect say, Ronike if he had done this? Actually Common with your record so far you may have had Ronike killed if he had done this. I don't quite like the fact that your able to convince everyone to vote your way on a simple whim either especially when you've been wrong the last two times. I'd actually rather see you dead tomorrow because if we're wrong today and then if you didn't turn out to be said mafia/independent then at least wre won't have you misleading us, eh?
Yeah right. If you really had the feeling that he wasn't a baddy, then you should have putted your vote away. That would at least make you a safe characters. But you didn't. Why? Because you are the independant hmm?I've not blindly followed your voting either. If you don't recall me saying that I thought DeathReaver was Hercules then ask Camo. He tried to call it a mistake saying I forced the idea that Deathreaver was town. I voted for him anyway because I saw that there was no chance of stopping you all.
He has prove. Your way of actions are just weird. You turn against somebody right away, in no time.You wanna accuse me? Fine. At least have some proof past "I can't shake this feeling". Yeah, I can't shake this feeling about you, how about that? Wait, no. Not everyone is going to listen based off of my feelings. We're not gonna listen to yours either.
Mmmm...Kuji is a smart one for sure. I'm easily convinced yes. I'm still not going to change my vote no matter what to be honest.Good job Blazer. You did exactly what I wanted you to do.
Look at this:
Now look at this:
Flopperdy flop. You do say that you always had some doubts about Common though, but after my big *** posts you completely agreed with me and voted against him.
Common is a smart guy. He knows what he is doing. When I think about it now, he made only 1 big mistake in the past and that was with the 1th name claim. Common used the 2th name claim to lure out people. I just did the same thing. And you swallowed it.
Is that so? I remember that you said that Common was one of the least suspicious players.
You don't like it how he let's people vote on others? Then why did you tag along with him in the first place?
Yeah right. If you really had the feeling that he wasn't a baddy, then you should have putted your vote away. That would at least make you a safe characters. But you didn't. Why? Because you are the independant hmm?
He has prove. Your way of actions are just weird. You turn against somebody right away, in no time.
Unvote: Commonyoshi
That's clearly not what you said in the above quote about trusting me completely. There's no way you can get out of this one.I was always suspicious of you Common. I may trust you a lot more now but I've always had doubts just from reading what you attempted earlier. Don't try to throw blame on me because I "suddenly suspect you". It's always been there and it will be until the end of the game.
No, I would not have suspected Ronike if he had done this. I may have questioned his logic and deduction skills, but his innocence would have remained untained. Dont put words into my mouth.You have led us into our past two mess ups after all and this would in fact, be a third one. Would you not suspect say, Ronike if he had done this? Actually Common with your record so far you may have had Ronike killed if he had done this. I don't quite like the fact that your able to convince everyone to vote your way on a simple whim either especially when you've been wrong the last two times.
Wow... just wow... Didn't I say in the beginning of the day that I was stepping down because I had been wrong the two days before? So in reality, I have already stopped leading the town in any dirrection whatsoever.I'd actually rather see you dead tomorrow because if we're wrong today and then if you didn't turn out to be said mafia/independent then at least wre won't have you misleading us, eh?
Wow... You didn't think you could stop my reasoning against him so you just followed and lynched him too? There's nothing I really have to say against this. -_-I've not blindly followed your voting either. If you don't recall me saying that I thought DeathReaver was Hercules then ask Camo. He tried to call it a mistake saying I forced the idea that Deathreaver was town. I voted for him anyway because I saw that there was no chance of stopping you all.
What feelings? I never stated my FEELINGS as an argument. I said I got those feelings because of the actions you do. Must I go over them again, honestly?You wanna accuse me? Fine. At least have some proof past "I can't shake this feeling". Yeah, I can't shake this feeling about you, how about that? Wait, no. Not everyone is going to listen based off of my feelings. We're not gonna listen to yours either.
I can say nothing except I thought they were good ideas. Looking back, maybe it would have been farfetched to think the first one could work, but I still stick with my actions. I have no regrets, and if you kill me for these reasons, I will still have no regrets.You wanted 3 name claims before that (and I forgive you for 1) and that still bugs me.
How am I supposed to know? I didn't pick this; Chill did.What was it again, that you can get some hidden hints about people? How the hell does a ability like that connect with Pooh?
Again, circumstancial evidence. But no, I didn't do anything because despite what you think, this is my first real Mafia game which I have actually gone through the time and effort to consider who's guilty. the only other mafia game I participated in before that was FoodCourt which I just bandwagoned everything. So excuse me for not arguing with sheer brilliance right off the bat in my first real game.Maybe that is why you were so quite before some big names died eh? (for example, frozen and ligolski). Only after that, you came up because your fear for the big boys was gone.
No, that was not a threat. Why would I threaten people when I could simply kill them at night if I really am Independant? The whole of that section of my post anyway was to tell you waht I would/could have done if I were Independant.And lol, is that a threat? Of course you could've convinced people to lynch me. However, I have proven myself multiple times to be a townie except for the 2th day, when I flip flopped with the whole ligolski thing. You, however, kept making scummy moves. That's a big difference my friend.
The next thing? I recall you started it.Kuji's right. Look at his facts. The next thing you did was try to turn blame on me. I really don't appreciate that too much.
Smaller threat? You've just said that myself AND Jazzy are Mafia working together. This is what bugs you about me. Chill has basically confirmed that there is only one enemy left with his little narations, and you try to kill myself AND Jazzy at the same time? That's a grand total of four town deaths for you if that succeeds, isn't it?Besides that, Jazzy is a smaller threat since she doesn't actually get on much. Eliminate the active independent/mafia first to prevent more deaths.
I actually think your both mafia to be honest. You may have thought that by leading us to killing another mafia you would be safe.
Wow... did it ever cross your mind that I am no longer in control of this group? My authority has been questions. Why do you insist on killing me, for a reason as lame as yours no less, when that very reason is invalid?I don't like the idea of lynching you but, keeping you around seems to be an even worse move so say goodbye.And yes, I'm sticking with my vote this time this back and forth action grows old.
Oh, thank gooddness! You have a mind of your own, thank you. I'm not some master puppeteer.You don't like it how he let's people vote on others? Then why did you tag along with him in the first place?
Exactly. I have put myself on the line in this game. Take the case when I accused Ronike of being Ursula for example. If I think he's Mafia, even when no one else does, I'll do it.Yeah right. If you really had the feeling that he wasn't a baddy, then you should have putted your vote away. That would at least make you a safe characters. But you didn't. Why? Because you are the independant hmm?
1. No. Stop playing me off as the insane mob leader. People have disagreed with me, but I have never jumped down their throats for it.1. If I did then I would be lynched the following day if he was mafia and there was someone left. I'm not risking that notice that I never liked Jazzy too much. I still thought she would be mafia but to accuse her is suicide with Common around.
2. I honestly had some small suspicions of him. Notice that I listed three Characters when concluding that he was Hercules. Two of which scream mafia.
3. He was going to be lynched anyway. It was a matter of time before someone else showed up and voted on him.He was innactive and we'd been lynching innactives in the search of our last mafia./independent It's really unlikely that my vote even mattered so why not? Also I believe Deathreaver did end up with more votes than necessary correct?
I dont accuse people to get the blame off myself. I just needed to say what I suspected in case I died. You'd lynch someone "to be sure"? Well I certainly hope no one else follows that logic.Now for my feelings against Common.
Yes I suspect him. As I said I've always had my doubts. Now he goes off and accuses me trying to get the blame off of himself. It's the same reason that Ronike has been suspicious of me for so long. I accused Ronike heavily and was wrong. Now he suspects me heavily and is wrong. Common accuses me and is wrong, I feel as if Common is mafia/independent and I'm probably wrong too but, I'd rather be sure over getting killed every night wouldn't you?
Repeat after me. "I have a brain. I can decide for myself." Thank you.Now then look at how Common leads us. He is actually our main player in judging who we vote on. We follow him like sheep whether we realize it or not. i didn't realize it until we lynched TWO townies based off of his feelings. I haven't been here long enough to see anyone else get lynched either. I haven't had time to realize anything about Common's leading until today.
I dont believe this at all. You're expecting us to believe Chill would create a character like that? (No offense if he's telling the truth, Chill.Also the fact that I am easily convinced otherwise is a small role restriction to be quite honest. It's part of the Beast character that I have to change to someone who is about to be lynched.
Hmm... I wonder why you dont vote for yourself after we have all given so much evidence against you.There's a reason Arken didn't post too much. I have to say that he wanted to avoid the role restriction as much as possible. Sadly, I can't vote on Jazzy until someone offers something really good or until someone else does.
YOU SCIMMED. And I've actually grown more suspicious of Blazer, truth be told. Thanks to Kuji for that. I only regained suspicion of you because of your impecable timing regarding Chill's past two updates. No one else was online during the time in between them so no one else could have voted to kill DiamondFalcon. Logic thar. (keep in mind that I could not confirm Blazer's activity during that time as he had already logged on)Ok so i just scimmed through most of what I missed, and right now I am starting to get a bit suspisious of common. He did lead us to vote for townies in a row. He was suspisous of me for a while until I name claimed and then he believed me for a while, and now after more town is gone he changes back and is once again suspisious of me. I believe it was Kujirudo that made some good points about common, and I agree with them.
Your role restriction is a pack of lies. Look at this. ^^^Official Vote count
Pure of Heart:
Arkengate, Camo-man, Jarc
agentli: 2
Uncle Meat, ligolski
Ok.Also is it possible to vote for yourself? If so I will. You guys can move to the next day and realize how dumb you are.
NOOO! I spent AN HOUR AND A HALF reading and typing that response. I word counted it on Microsoft Word, and it reached over 2600. I expect someone to read it... But yeah, it is way too long, isn't it? I had to be absolutely thourough. Also:
*applaudes Kujirudo for his plan* His lure was brilliant. Even I fell for it.
Your role restriction is a pack of lies. Look at this. ^^^
Ok.
NOOO! I spent AN HOUR AND A HALF reading and typing that response. I word counted it on Microsoft Word, and it reached over 2600. I expect someone to read it... But yeah, it is way too long, isn't it? I had to be absolutely thourough. Also:
*applaudes Kujirudo for his plan* His lure was brilliant. Even I fell for it.
Your role restriction is a pack of lies. Look at this. ^^^
Ok.
NOOO! I spent AN HOUR AND A HALF reading and typing that response. I word counted it on Microsoft Word, and it reached over 2600. I expect someone to read it... But yeah, it is way too long, isn't it? I had to be absolutely thourough. Also:
*applaudes Kujirudo for his plan* His lure was brilliant. Even I fell for it.
Your role restriction is a pack of lies. Look at this. ^^^
Ok.
Agreed. I've been the target of a day lynch twice. Both those times I didn't tell everyone they would be sorry. I accepted my death and tried my best to lead the town towards the right dirrection afterwards, something Blazer is not doing right now. He's not interested in helping the town, he wants to save himself. Though that should be our main priority, it is proper to also help the town.I read it. And yeah, I think Blaze might be usin reverse psychology now.
The only time I don't switch is when it's on me. I obviously can't vote for myself after all.
I lol'd.Also is it possible to vote for yourself? If so I will. You guys can move to the next day and realize how dumb you are.
I lol'd again because if you really are the independant, then you are the stupid player who fell for my trap and can never play mafia again because of what you just said.Blazer said:If the last mafia/independent does in fact turn out to be someone stupid I am going to laugh at this entire things and never play mafia again
It wasn't too long. You finished what I started. That's a good thing. I told you things would get juicy.commonyoshi said:NOOO! I spent AN HOUR AND A HALF reading and typing that response. I word counted it on Microsoft Word, and it reached over 2600. I expect someone to read it... But yeah, it is way too long, isn't it? I had to be absolutely thourough
Why, thank you. I'll stop playing mafia though if he really is town. I hope you didn't feel too offensed when I made those 2 posts against you though.commonyoshi said:*applaudes Kujirudo for his plan* His lure was brilliant. Even I fell for it.
*raises hand* He gave up too.commonyoshi said:Is his reaction reminding anyone of FalcoX's right about now?
Oh, definitely not. But they were very believable.Why, thank you. I'll stop playing mafia though if he really is town. I hope you didn't feel too offensed when I made those 2 posts against you though.