Kingdom Hearts Mafia~Day 8~End Game!~Roles revealed!

[DiamondFalcon]

Yeah, it would help to have one of their keen eyes around. But I think we're almost there. We've lynched what, 4 mafia members? I suppose we have one mafia member and/or one independent left. We haven't been getting any night kills lately though, so I doubt the independent. But if it is an independent, remember he could have helped bring down the mafia too. Out of the players, here's who's left:

1. Oblivion (lance87) 20/20
2. commonyoshi 20/20
6. Kujirudo 18/20
8. Ronike 18/18
9. DiamondFalcon town 16/20
12. Defjamffy16 (Jarc) 20/20
13. Blazer (Arkengate) lv2 25/25
14. Jazzyswimmer 20/20
15. camo-man 20/20
17. Deathreaver780 24/24

That's still a sizeable number to sift through, but we do know/have an idea on some of the roles. I still haven't figured out who Arkengate or Deathreaver were, but I trust those of you who say that they are town. We know common's and camo's as well as mine and possibly Jazzy's.

Here's some possible plans of actions we can take:
1. Each one of us goes through and analyzes one person post-by-post and presents a report.
2. Each one of us presents a list of most suspicious to least suspicious in your opinion.
3. Name-claim is really risky. If there's more than one baddie still out there, we could lose our doctor and other important roles, though we are so close to winning that it shouldn't matter. Maybe as a last resort, this might work. This might be helpful once we know for sure that there's only one left.
4. We can keep lynching inactives. It's been working so far, and if you are town and inactive, you aren't helping anyways.
5. We can pressure people until they say something that proves their innocence or guilt.

And Blazer, I think we trust common by now. If he's an independent or mafia, that would be hilarious. I'm still not sure about you though. We did trust Arkengate, and I noticed that he was a lot more helpful than he was in Sicilian Mafia (where he actually was mafia). But by all means, don't stop being suspicious of people.

Now guys, let's solve this case!

 

[Blazer]

I never said he was in the mafia. Just pointed out facts that said he might be. Remember I said I'm not accusing anyone just taking a glance at a few problems I have with him. I say we lynch innactives if nothing else.

BTW, my problem with someone having a daze ability is if it's someone who's mafia and Jazzy just said that in defense as not to get killed then it could come down to the wire and us be unable to lynch a mafia because someone can't vote.

Sorry though, last night I was in a bit of a rage and didn't think quite clearly enough.

 

[commonyoshi]

BTW, my problem with someone having a daze ability is if it's someone who's mafia and Jazzy just said that in defense as not to get killed then it could come down to the wire and us be unable to lynch a mafia because someone can't vote.

I can say this because I've been pushing for her lynch for a long time before this.

I trust Jazzy.
The person with the dazing ability is obviously still alive since we just saw it last night. So if Jazzy was lying about being the dazer then the real dazer should have come out and accused Jazzy of lying. She would have been caught, lynched, and the accuser would pretty much be on the town's good side for helping lynch a bad guy. Heck, the game could very well be over. There's really no reason as to why a townie would not announce the truth if he knew it.

Furthermore, I think the dazer is on the town's side. Looking back, I can see why I was dazed. Everyone suspected me of being Mafia, why wouldn't she daze me? I'm not sure why she dazed Blazer though since we trusted Arken, or at least I did. maybe it's just because he was the new guy. No matter though. We can ask Jazzy when she returns.

Oh, and where the heck is Deathreaver?

 

[commonyoshi]

As much as it pains me to do this...

Vote: Ronike

Reason. I've figured out your character role, Ronike.

 

[Blazer]

I can say this because I've been pushing for her lynch for a long time before this.

I trust Jazzy.
The person with the dazing ability is obviously still alive since we just saw it last night. So if Jazzy was lying about being the dazer then the real dazer should have come out and accused Jazzy of lying. She would have been caught, lynched, and the accuser would pretty much be on the town's good side for helping lynch a bad guy. Heck, the game could very well be over. There's really no reason as to why a townie would not announce the truth if he knew it.

Furthermore, I think the dazer is on the town's side. Looking back, I can see why I was dazed. Everyone suspected me of being Mafia, why wouldn't she daze me? I'm not sure why she dazed Blazer though since we trusted Arken, or at least I did. maybe it's just because he was the new guy. No matter though. We can ask Jazzy when she returns.

Oh, and where the heck is Deathreaver?

Maybe the dazer isn't a townie. Maybe they're mafia.

I doubt it's Ronike. You'll have to give me some pretty good proof. Also i doubt that Ursula would have been given 18 hp. Maybe that's not evidence at all but, it's something to consider, atl least for me not having read the entire game through as of yet.

 

[commonyoshi]

Maybe the dazer isn't a townie. Maybe they're mafia.

I doubt it's Ronike. You'll have to give me some pretty good proof. Also i doubt that Ursula would have been given 18 hp. Maybe that's not evidence at all but, it's something to consider, atl least for me not having read the entire game through as of yet.

Screw the dazer! He/she isn't important anymore. The town shall win!

Dont worry, I have my reasons for doing what I do. I intend to show evidence against Ronike as soon as he responds to my accusation.

 

[Ronike]

I can and will shoot it down if necessary, but I would like to see any evidence you have against me before I respond. Though I do applaud you for looking past being allies, thats exactly an area which I tend to be weak in. However, I am most definetely not mafia. Again though, I would like to see what led you to that conclusion besides my first day bid to become the doc protected person, which I have already said was a stupid mistake I made due to my being tired.

 

[Blazer]

Well, if Ronike is Ursula then I can blame him for my dazing... I still can't vote to solve anything though.

 

[Ronike]

Like you said before, Im not Ursula. I just want to hear his reasoning so that I
A) Dont Needlessly Role Claim
B) Learn new tactics of how to decide a role
C) Other stuff

 

[Blazer]

If he's wrong in his accusations then you won't learn very good new tactics haha. But a needless role claim would be awful right now. Especially if our last mafia/independent is still playing.

 

[commonyoshi]

The reason I suspect you is because I have a special night ability I've been keeping secret from everyone. It allows me to PM Chill and "look into someone's heart" and find a secret about their character. Do you remember when I asked which Disney character liked ice cream? Do you remember when I asked if Kari was a singer? (I doubt it so I'll be happy to find them again.) I asked because I looked into certain people's hearts and recieved those character clues from Chill, except I wasn't very knowledgable about certain KoH characters. Example: Kari.

First night- Uncle Meat likes ice cream.
Second- Lance is a nice guy.
Third- Jazzy loves to sing.
Fourth- Deathreaver is very strong.
Fifth- I investigate you, Ronike.

So I have obtained a character clue about you which leads me to believe that you are Ursula. I obviously cant tell you what this clue is or else you'd find a second Disney character with the same characteristics. That would ruin everything. So you're going to have to name claim first. If you provide a "good" character that fits the clue then I'll believe you are innocent. (Some clues fit more than one character. The Jazzy likes to sing" one, for example.)

But so you know I'm not just making up any random character clue to convict you, I will edit one of my previous posts outside this thread with the information I recieved from Chill. You can then decide wether to name claim or not. Afterwards, I will link the edited message back to this thread and you can see that my edit was BEFORE your name claim post.

Just respond with wether you agree to my challenge or not with a simple "Let's do this", and I'll go off to edit my post with the clue.

 

[Ronike]

Well, I don't really wanna role claim, but I was gonna do it when I got a good reason anyways, so helI, why not? Sure Im up for it, especially since your investigations were so... insightful. I could tell you who all those characters are besides Lance. Who is Meat now anyways?

 

[commonyoshi]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=2105003&highlight=ice+cream#post2105003

Couldn't find the Kairi one. >_> But I was asking about the ice cream thing WAY in the beginning.

I'll go off and edit one of my previous posts right now.

 

[Blazer]

You really need to play Kingdom Hearts dude. It's great.

 

[commonyoshi]

I dont have a play station. And Uncle Meat was some guy who liked ice cream. >_>

Xeno... something if I remember correctly.

 

[Blazer]

I bought a playstation just to play Kingdom Hearts.

Xenohort?

 

[Ronike]

Well played common, well played. You've backed me into a corner from which I can't escape likely. Well, we shall see who people trust more, shant we?

I am Kairi. I was protected that night from whoever went after me by DF, and he died for me. I later brought him back with my ability. This is also why I know the vig was a townie as I was not targeted twice in a row. If you don't believe me, look at my hp. Its really low as fits a young, fragile girl.

Now, I have slightly gone back on my part and looked at the post you edited through your profile, which is how I know either your role is defective or you are a dirty liar! Don't believe me? You edited that I have long white hair and a trident. Now, I know most of you may not believe me, but look at this: I could have easily claimed King Triton if I was lying and no one would've been the wiser. So, who from his list before is still alive? I need it for further evidence.

Don't think I forgot: vote: Common Not only for this, but also for his insistence on a name claim

 

[commonyoshi]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=2213494&highlight=uncle+meat#post2213494

I meant Ansom. Who's Xenohort? I know I've heard that somewhere.

 

[Ronike]

I bought a playstation just to play Kingdom Hearts.

Xenohort?

Same here, and I agree that you need to buy it, though I am sure you are rather familiar with it since you made all those accurate role descriptions thus far. and its Xehanort BTW, it another with an x. Honestly though common, well played either way.

 

[Blazer]

Yeah I realized I spelled it wrong right after posting.

Xehanort is *MAJOR SPOILERS*



a nobody and a leader of Organization XIII. He is one of the major boss battles in the World that Never Was and is almost given the final boss feel before you find out who Xemnas is.

 

[Blazer]

Also I can't vote so my opinion on your war doesn't matter. This is very annoying.

 

[commonyoshi]

I am Kairi. I was protected that night from whoever went after me by DF, and he died for me. I later brought him back with my ability. This is also why I know the vig was a townie as I was not targeted twice in a row. If you don't believe me, look at my hp. Its really low as fits a young, fragile girl.

Now, I have slightly gone back on my part and looked at the post you edited through your profile, which is how I know either your role is defective or you are a dirty liar! Don't believe me? You edited that I have long white hair and a trident. Now, I know most of you may not believe me, but look at this: I could have easily claimed King Triton if I was lying and no one would've been the wiser. So, who from his list before is still alive? I need it for further evidence.

Don't think I forgot: vote: Common Not only for this, but also for his insistence on a name claim

Well played indeed, Ronike, but that wasn't the clue I recieved. It was a plant. I knew you would do that.

Here's my REAL clue. Notice the edit date. I planned this from the beginning.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=1545247&postcount=22
To summarize, Ronike likes to make necklaces out of seashells.

Alright, I'll believe you just as soon as someone confirms Kairi likes to make necklaces out of seashells. (Stupid KoH characters ruining everything. I thought the game was ours.)

unvote: Ronike

 

[Blazer]

Darn you, now I have to sit through a mass of cut scenes... ( ihave files for almost all the important parts of the game.) Ugh.... Off to the Final boss we go then.

 

[commonyoshi]

Oh, just so I dont look like a complete moron because of my post, I didn't want Ronike to use the forum's search function to find that post so I purposefully misspelled a lot of words such as "Mafia" with "Maphia".

 

[Ronike]

Very intelligent. [b[unvote: Common[/b]
Thats a weird clue to give on Kairi, but Chill does what he does. I actually can't remember her ever doing that, though I dont put it past her. Let me check on wiki

 

[Ronike]

grrr. unvote: common
I figured the mispellings were there for that reason.

 

[Blazer]

I'm pretty sure Kairi didn't make necklaces BTW. I can't recall a time in which she did so. Maybe she did though. I haven't played through KH in a while. Been playing it more lately though...

Kairi's always out of the loop. She's always captured or something. She doesn't have time to make necklaces.

No. I'm 100% positive she never made necklaces actually. That's utterly wrong.

 

[Ronike]

there we are:

Just search shells and you'll see it.

 

[Ronike]

Apparently the charm was made out of shells. *shrugs*

 

[Blazer]

The lucky charm was a keychain. It was the Oathkeeper keychain to be precise. No. A keychain is in no way a necklace.

 

[Ronike]

click the little link. Its a url link. Sorry, old habits die hard. Its on wiki, though i can cross reference it else where if you guys want

 

[Blazer]

Don't avoid me. The lucky charm that Kairi gives to Sora is Oathkeeper's KEYCHAIN. A keychain=/= a necklace. Also, if it were in fact a necklace I can guarantee that Sora would have worn it in KH2 before returning it to her.

 

[Ronike]

Ok, heres what I could find (click the phrases):

An image of her necklace the hanging piece is a seashell.

again, search shell

A KH forum, search shell

And answers dot com. You should know the drill by now

Enough proof for you guys?

 

[Ronike]

I was just posting what wiki said. Just cause it only mentioned necklaces doesn't mean she only made necklaces out of them.

 

[Blazer]

Also, wikipedia is easily edited. The keychain Kairi gives Sora is a paopu fruit from the beginning of the game. I have a level 100 on DI file used to check this. End of day 1 Riku throws a paopu fruit to Sora saying that if two people share it theirdestinies will become intertwined. Sora tosses it away without a thought and then runs after Riku.

Later on in the game before you head to the End Of the World Kairi gives Sora a paopu fruit looking object with a chain tied to it. You immediately recieve Oathkeeper. Oathkeeper:http://kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/kingdomhearts1/media/keyblades/oathkeeper.jpg

Examine that Keychain. A star correct?
A paopu fruit:http://i.xanga.com/haloxsoul/paopu_icon.gif

Very similiar eh? Actually the exact same! The Paopu fruit on the keychain was meant to symbolize Sora and Kairi's destinies becoming intertwined. You = Not Kairi. Unless Chill has made a very bad error.

 

[commonyoshi]

That was the most brilliant move I've ever done in Mafia, and I end up revealing my powers and another townie's role for nothing. I'm ashamed.

And just so others can see it, this was the fake edit I set up.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=63056

I dont care about the stinking necklace. Tomato, tomato... Wait, that doesn't work if I type it out. >_>

 

[Ronike]

Then Chill has made an error. Im Kairi. And dude, look at the other sites I posted why dont you? They all say it, not just wiki. And I dont care how fast of a typer I am, not at all, I could'nt edit wiki and create those four sites within 20 minutes. Minor FOS: Blazer for looking this deep, though I see why and would likely be doing the same myself and he is new, its givin me this feeling I just can't shake, so I wanna share it/

 

[Blazer]

Ok, heres what I could find (click the phrases):

An image of her necklace the hanging piece is a seashell.

again, search shell

A KH forum, search shell

And answers dot com. You should know the drill by now

Enough proof for you guys?

Most of these links lead to fan sites or message boards. A message board is absolutely not a viable source and fansites can be wrong. Also who's to say she made the necklace herself?

I don't think Chill would give the hint "she likes to make necklaces" to a character that is never shown making one. It wouldn't make sense. As much as I hate to admit it, your probably mafia/independent and trying to claim Kairi.

I am curious though as to why you would name claim Kairi when told that your character was often singing. The only instance I can think of when she may have been singing is before you recieve Oathkeeper and I'm pretty sure she wasn't singing then. ....I don't know what to think.

 

[Ronike]

That was the most brilliant move I've ever done in Mafia, and I end up revealing my powers and another townie's role for nothing. I'm ashamed.

And just so others can see it, this was the fake edit I set up.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=63056

I dont care about the stinking necklace. Tomato, tomato... Wait, that doesn't work if I type it out. >_>

regardless, it was still brilliant. And don't worry about revealing me, I had every intention of doing so as soon as I felt I needed people's trust and Ive been wanting to do so more and more with each passing day. Otherwise, I would've just not agreed at the start. Anyways, do you agree somewhat with me on that blazer is being awfully suspiscious, even for a n00b? Or am I just being paranoid?

 

[Blazer]

Then Chill has made an error. Im Kairi. And dude, look at the other sites I posted why dont you? They all say it, not just wiki. And I dont care how fast of a typer I am, not at all, I could'nt edit wiki and create those four sites within 20 minutes. Minor FOS: Blazer for looking this deep, though I see why and would likely be doing the same myself and he is new, its givin me this feeling I just can't shake, so I wanna share it/

I never said you edited the fansites. I'm an extremely fast typist and I couldn't have done that. No, my proposition is that the fansites are wrong. Editing wikipedia doesn't take much from what I understand especially since your only editing a few words.

Looking deep into things is the only way to discover if your mafia/independent or not and being new has nothing to do with my credibility. I think you may simply be trying to divert attention from yourself. You trusted Arken so trust me since we've got the same character role.