K. Rool Support thread.

[shadenexus18]

Yeah, DK needs somebody (like King K. Rool) from his franchise!

 

[HiddenTiger]

Wrong wrong wrong. DK needs someone like Diddy, Dixie, Kiddy, Cranky or any of the other Kongs from his franchise. As I've stated before time and time again, it is not mandatory to have a villain from every franchise. Villains should only included if they are iconic to gaming in general (Bowser) or they are from a franchise that is popular enough to merit multiple charactes, but there are not enough suitable characters to fill the demand (Ganondorf). King K. Rool falls into neither of these categories.

 

[shadenexus18]

It aint at all mandatory, but it would be nice. I for one hate Diddy Kong. K. Rool all da way son!

 

[xianfeng]

Wrong wrong wrong. DK needs someone like Diddy, Dixie, Kiddy, Cranky or any of the other Kongs from his franchise. As I've stated before time and time again, it is not mandatory to have a villain from every franchise. Villains should only included if they are iconic to gaming in general (Bowser) or they are from a franchise that is popular enough to merit multiple charactes, but there are not enough suitable characters to fill the demand (Ganondorf). King K. Rool falls into neither of these categories.

But K.Rool is UNIQUE he is a pirate, a king, a boxer and a scientist. His moveset would be so fun and wacky but I suppose he can't be in because you HATE the idea of a COOL villain being added, that's ok you can stick with your oversized turtle, test tube, puff ball behind a mask and soon-to be fat man.

K.Rool could have fit the second one if Nintendo hadn't sold Rare, (I've been grumbling about that since 2001 and it won't stop, unless Microsoft buys out Nintendo, then I would be happy)

 

[Freddery]

k.rool

I believe he would make a fine addition, in fact he was originally going to be in Melee but they dropped him for some **** reason. And what's not to like about him, he has a blunderbuss and looks like the fusion of several boss characters of Nintendo.

 

[DarkerCompanion]

In general, my highest hope for Brawl overall is that the primary Nintendo franchises that are in it will each be fleshed out with a villian of some sort. Melee managed this with Ganondorf and Bowser, and Brawl already has Metaknight, however, I would be happy to see this further expanded upon with the likes of King K. Rool, Wolf O'Donnell, King Dedede (despite Kirby already having an effective villain) and so on.

Hence, I would love to see King K. Rool in.

 

[HiddenTiger]

But K.Rool is UNIQUE he is a pirate, a king, a boxer and a scientist. His moveset would be so fun and wacky but I suppose he can't be in because you HATE the idea of a COOL villain being added, that's ok you can stick with your oversized turtle, test tube, puff ball behind a mask and soon-to be fat man.

Ha ha ha ha!! Oh, Christ that's funny. You actually have to resort to flaming to try and keep up this shamble of a debate. Wow. Haha...

Listen, K. Rool does not need to be in. I don't care what he was in whatever games you can pull out of you ***. Source material matters very little in terms of Smash Bros., so your argument where his identity crisis means he should be allowed in Smash is pretty much gone. Mario has been a plumber, a doctor, a referree, a coach, a racer, a tennis/baseball/basketball/soccer player, so surely they wouldn't need to make up any moves for him, right? Right? Exactly. Listen: DK does not need a villain. With so many good DK characters, and so little space in Brawl overall, why would you deny Diddy or an equally important/popular/better character the chance to fight because some King with indentity issues wanted to play?

 

[pass the syrup]

I think a bad donkey kong character is a good idea but it shouldn't be K. rool. they need a more agile character. An average kremling would be more fun to play with. If they are going to put in a bad DK character they should pick someone from DK 64(which is like the best game ever)

 

[pass the syrup]

or find a big villain from some other game

 

[T-major]

Ha ha ha ha!! Oh, Christ that's funny. You actually have to resort to flaming to try and keep up this shamble of a debate. Wow. Haha...

Listen, K. Rool does not need to be in. I don't care what he was in whatever games you can pull out of you ***. Source material matters very little in terms of Smash Bros., so your argument where his identity crisis means he should be allowed in Smash is pretty much gone. Mario has been a plumber, a doctor, a referree, a coach, a racer, a tennis/baseball/basketball/soccer player, so surely they wouldn't need to make up any moves for him, right? Right? Exactly. Listen: DK does not need a villain. With so many good DK characters, and so little space in Brawl overall, why would you deny Diddy or an equally important/popular/better character the chance to fight because some King with indentity issues wanted to play?

your right. not every franchise needs a villian. only franchise that are well know, popular, and incredably important need a villian. and since Donkey Kong is #3 on that list, that means K. Rool needs to be in. you can argue all you want, but the reality is that DK NEEDS a villian in Brawl in order to be properly represented. Donkey Kong needs more characters in Brawl. and seeing as the only characters deserving of being in are Diddy and K. Rool, that would be three characters in total. which is much less then what the franchise deserves.

K. ROOL FTW!!!

 

[HiddenTiger]

your right. not every franchise needs a villian. only franchise that are well know, popular, and incredably important need a villian. and since Donkey Kong is #3 on that list, that means K. Rool needs to be in. you can argue all you want, but the reality is that DK NEEDS a villian in Brawl in order to be properly represented. Donkey Kong needs more characters in Brawl. and seeing as the only characters deserving of being in are Diddy and K. Rool, that would be three characters in total. which is much less then what the franchise deserves.

K. ROOL FTW!!!

No. DK does not need K. Rool. IMO, Diddy would be plenty of an addition to fairly represent the DK franchise. Then again, I also think the Mother franchise deserves at least 4 characters. What I'm getting at here is that any comment on who deserves how many characters is purely opinion. And in the end, only one opinion counts: the one of the man making this game. No matter what you say, or what I say for that matter, the final word is his. So I guess we just need to wait. That being said, I still don't think K. Rool is necesary at all. Diddy and Dixie would come first.

Also, all that stuff you do to your posts makes it awfully confusing to quote.

 

[T-major]

No. DK does not need K. Rool. IMO, Diddy would be plenty of an addition to fairly represent the DK franchise. Then again, I also think the Mother franchise deserves at least 4 characters. What I'm getting at here is that any comment on who deserves how many characters is purely opinion. And in the end, only one opinion counts: the one of the man making this game. No matter what you say, or what I say for that matter, the final word is his. So I guess we just need to wait. That being said, I still don't think K. Rool is necesary at all. Diddy and Dixie would come first.

Also, all that stuff you do to your posts makes it awfully confusing to quote.

how dosn't he need K. Rool? (thats not a retorical question. I want an answer) thats like saying Mario dosen't need Bowser (which is just stupid). not putting in K. Rool is; a) taking away a villian (which are needed). b) taking away an original character (which is also needed). and c) taking away DK rep (which is highly needed!). three things that are needed, you say don't matter... something seems fishy here.

Diddy is good, but not nearly as much as DK deserves. you can say thats it just opinion all you want. but really, it's not. it's common logic to include the villian of the third most important Nintendo franchise. they need Diddy and K. Rool in Brawl along with DK (seriously... Dixie?... how the hell is she more deserving then K. Rool?)

 

[HiddenTiger]

I agree with you that Smash could use more of both villains and unique characters. But honestly, I don't see Rool as being very unique. He just seems to be a filler villain that Rare added to the Kong franchise for the sake of having a villain. Honestly, there are loads more villains that deserve it so much more; Wolf O'Donnel, Claus, Ridley, King Dedede, etc. All of those would be unique villains that would be a lot better, at least IMO.

Also, I didn't exactly say that Dixie deserved it more than Rool. I said 'Diddy and Dixie.' You know. Like as a team.

 

[T-major]

I agree with you that Smash could use more of both villains and unique characters. But honestly, I don't see Rool as being very unique. He just seems to be a filler villain that Rare added to the Kong franchise for the sake of having a villain. Honestly, there are loads more villains that deserve it so much more; Wolf O'Donnel, Claus, Ridley, King Dedede, etc. All of those would be unique villains that would be a lot better, at least IMO.

Also, I didn't exactly say that Dixie deserved it more than Rool. I said 'Diddy and Dixie.' You know. Like as a team.

filler villian?... that dosn't even make any sense. logicaly, that would sugest that that their was a different villian before K. Rool. that was replaced by K. Rool for one game only. but seeing as he was the first, and most recuring villian of DK, he isn't "filler" in anyway. Wart, now thats a filler villian (from SMB2).

with the logic your using, every villian is nothing but a filler villian. added so that the franchise could have a villian (or rival, which is the case with Wolf). also. the "more deserving villians" you said are from different franchises. them being in the game wouldn't effect other villians chances at all.

and for the 'Diddy and Dixie team' idea.... you probably didn't know, but I am against that idea in every way, shape, or form. so that dosn't help your argement at all.... in fact, it kind of made things worse... but yeah, K. Rool FTW!

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I personaly don't want to see K. rool he is down toward the very bottom with wart from SMB2.
K. rool just seems lame to me, but then again when I see him I think that he is a knock off of kraid from the metroid universe.

I do agree that there need to be more DK reps, but I would find K. rool boring and a very unintresting addition.

 

[OysterMeister]

Personaly, I'd love to see K. Rool in Brawl.
I like playing heavy characters, and as it stands now there are really only three options in melee: Ganondorf, DK, and Bowser.
Personaly, I think smash bros NEEDS some more heavy characters, and K. Rool would be an awesome addition to that minority. Plus, as a royal overweight alligator, he's already got more than enough material to create a truly awesome moveset.

However, I have to agree that Diddy takes priority over K. Rool.

With any luck, Diddy and Dixie will be put in as an ice-climbers team (only with more monkey and less hammer), and then K. Rool can be added as a heavy character. That way you'd get all four major DK characters (including DK of course ) and it would only take up three character slots. That's what I call a bargin.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

Personaly, I'd love to see K. Rool in Brawl.
I like playing heavy characters, and as it stands now there are really only three options in melee: Ganondorf, DK, and Bowser.
Personaly, I think smash bros NEEDS some more heavy characters, and K. Rool would be an awesome addition to that minority. Plus, as a royal overweight alligator, he's already got more than enough material to create a truly awesome moveset.

However, I have to agree that Diddy takes priority over K. Rool.

With any luck, Diddy and Dixie will be put in as an ice-climbers team (only with more monkey and less hammer), and then K. Rool can be added as a heavy character. That way you'd get all four major DK characters (including DK of course ) and it would only take up three character slots. That's what I call a bargin.

Why does it matter that it only takes up just 3 I would personaly like 4-5 characters.
Seriously mario gets a billon why not fill it up with other characters.
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
yoshi
Wario
Thats already 6 for mario

And chances are there might be more: (not saying these characters are in, just saying its a possibility).
Toad
Birdo
waluigi

 

[Icetrash]

SSBB needs more DK characters indeed, as the DK series been one of their best. And to fill that position of more DK characters K.Rool would fit perfectly. He already has a great moveset with his canon, him throwing his crown and using his canon as a boost are all great moves. He can then fill the spot of DK having a villian and fill in the spot for more heavy weights needed.

Also that person who said K.Rool was just a "filler villian" has got to be out os his/her mind!

 

[HiddenTiger]

Also that person who said K.Rool was just a "filler villian" has got to be out os his/her mind!

Well, let's just take a look-see at all of the 'generic villain' stereotypes he fills.

1) Evil King
2) Big Evil Lizard
3) Harebrained schemes
4) Megalomaniacal tendencies
5) Bumbling Failure
6) Terrible Dialouge
7) Crazed Expression (eye tic)

Yep. Take away the lizard one and you've got your standard, "I could be anybody", goofy bad guy.

 

[Icetrash]

You could say that about Bowser also. Lol, just forget it you obvoiusly didnt have a SNES and you havent played DKC.... shame on you.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I agree with you that Smash could use more of both villains and unique characters. But honestly, I don't see Rool as being very unique. He just seems to be a filler villain that Rare added to the Kong franchise for the sake of having a villain. Honestly, there are loads more villains that deserve it so much more; Wolf O'Donnel, Claus, Ridley, King Dedede, etc. All of those would be unique villains that would be a lot better, at least IMO.

Also, I didn't exactly say that Dixie deserved it more than Rool. I said 'Diddy and Dixie.' You know. Like as a team.

Yeah I agree that we need more vilians, but K. rool isn't very high on my list.

Medusa (kid icarus)
King dedede
Skull kid
Bowser jr.
Wolf
Ridley
Koopalings
(any FE villian)
kraid
Lucas (I think I heard someone say he was a vilian)
Kamek
Fawful
captain syrup
vaati (zelda)
K rool.
Waluigi
Wart

Those were the only ones I could think of.

 

[HiddenTiger]

You could say that about Bowser also. Lol, just forget it you obvoiusly didnt have a SNES and you havent played DKC.... shame on you.

Yeah, but to be fair, Bowser started at least one or two of them. Rool was just sort of copying Bowser for his games. He's the Bowser to DK's Mario. Also, I do have a SNES, and I've played all 3 DKC games on it. Still don't care for Rool.

 

[freeman123]

Resting_Fox
Also, anyone can tell K.Rool was just Rare's cheap knock-off of Kraid, but with a cape, a crown and a twitch in his eye.

Or Wart from Super Mario Bros. 2.

Resting_Fox
Even if you want K.Rool in Smash, and he was put in the final product I doubt anybody would ever play him. He'd just be a waste of data-space that could be taken up by good characters like Little Mac and Diddy Kong.

How do you know those characters wouldn't also be in the game? Especially Diddy Kong, what makes you think they'd put K. Rool in before Diddy Kong?

Lord_Deathborne
I'd say K. Rool's more of Rare's cheap knock-off of Bowser.

Only one of these 3 look anything close to this:

Bowser85
Resting Fox, why don't you take your K. Rool hatred to Donkey Kong Universe and see how long you last

What are they gonna do, beat him up?

Resting_Fox
Honestly K.Rool is just not a worthy villian.

Why not? He's the main villain of a game series(not just some random boss like Petey Pirahna), & he has dozens of moves they could give him.

Resting_Fox
I mean, obviously the developers have been sort of ignoring the DKC franchise. They added 3 new Mario characters, 3 new Zelda characters, 2 new pokemon, 1 Starfox, and ZERO new DK characters

So, based on that logic, I guess there won't be any new Kirby or Metroid characters either. Meta-Knight & ZS Samus aren't really gonna be in SSBB.

Resting_Fox
Granted he's a heavyweight and Smash could probably use one more. But Dedede would make much better heavy-weight character. Because he could actually have a moveset and is not a fat, spazmatic, croco-human abomination who can jump insanely higher than his physique should allow.

K. Rool is 100 billion times better then Dedede. He has way better attacks from his games that could be used as special moves then Dedede does. The only reason Dedede might get in over K. Rool is because the creator of Kirby is developing the game.

Resting_Fox
You're Right. K.Rool =/= Bowser, because Bowser can actually have a moveset.

Why can't K. Rool have a moveset?

Resting_Fox
Also, to whomever said K.Rool has more personality than Bowser, I'd like to see any evidence. The guy only shows up for like, 10 minutes at the end of a game, has no dialogue, and then gets killed by monkeys that are less than half his size.

That's just flat out not true. In DKC3 he uses the famos Scooby Doo bad guy line, "I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!". & in DK64 he has several dialogue scenes through out the game.

Resting_Fox
Bowser has engaged in several instances of Dialogue and actually has evolved from the pig-faced turtle jumping on a bridge. K.rool is still a just a tweak faced Reptile jumping on a ship.

Have you played any DK game other then DKC?

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I have to disagree with you freeman both wart and kraid look like K. rool to me, but out of all of them the closest is kraid.

 

[OysterMeister]

1) K. Rool should not be added to Brawl if it means that Diddy would not be. However, should a second DK character be added, I say the spot should go to K. Rool. Dixie, due to her overwhelming similarities to Diddy, should make it in after K. Rool, or as the second member of a Diddy/Dixie ice climbers type duo character.

2) K. Rool is obviously a knock of of Bowser, just as Wart is a knock off of Bowser. He's the classic end of the game boss: big, strong, and just weird enough to be funny. I don't think that this should be held against him, though.
And, yes, K. Rool is very obviously not as developed as Bowser, but seriously, Bowser's had so many more games to develop in that it's not even funny.

3) Anyone who says K. Rool has no moveset isn't thinking hard enough. I mean, he's actually fought in-game. That gives him more to go on than either Fox or Captain Falcon had.

Personaly, I see K. Rool as a heavy character with surprisingly fast lunging attacks. His focus would be on connecting with a powerful opening move, and his weakness would be his vulnerability if that first attack misses. Also, as an alligator he must bite things. A lot.

 

[Konuk]

I think all the series game needs to have a boss villian like luigi , King Boo and his friend Would be Dr. Egad. DK can Have Diddy And the bad guy Would be K Kruel. Kirby already has a boss character thats better than dedede so im sure we probabl wont see him. Hmm Samus Ridely and Dark samus, theres more but ya know ^_^

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I think all the series game needs to have a boss villian like luigi , King Boo and his friend Would be Dr. Egad. DK can Have Diddy And the bad guy Would be K Kruel. Kirby already has a boss character thats better than dedede so im sure we probabl wont see him. Hmm Samus Ridely and Dark samus, theres more but ya know ^_^

Actualy Dedede has a very high chance to appear in brawl due to the fact that the creator of kirby is making SSBB plus from what I hear he loves kirby, metaknight, and dedede. I can't rember where I heard this, but I heard he wanted metaknight and dedede in SSBM, but felt that the other series wouldn't have enough reps.

Yeah I agree there should be villans from each series, but the chances of that happening arn't high.So its basicly a hoping game, I just wouldn't get my hopes up for a villian from each game. Although it would be cool to see medusa from kid icarus and alot of the others.

 

[Konuk]

Oh thanks i was hoping someone would say that :D Sakurai made Kirby o.O!!! Man Sakurai Needs to put all the villains from the games * main villains* i mean then there can be a bad guy team it'll be so cool

 

[T-major]

I have to disagree with you freeman both wart and kraid look like K. rool to me, but out of all of them the closest is kraid.

ummm.... excuse me!? sorry, but thats just stupid... Wart obviously looks the most like K. Rool. Wart has a crown, cape, gold wrist bands, and goofy proportions. K. Rool also has all those things. the only thing remotly smililar about Kraid and Rool are the colours.

I supose the fact that Kraid has 23 times more body mass then K. Rool, spikes protruding from his torso, a long tail (K. Rool dosn't have a tail. or at least not a noticable one), and three eyes, didn't cross your mind when you were comparing them...

@ HiddenTiger: those are some good desriptions of a generic villian. now heres mine on generic video game rivals (not in any particular order)

1) hates main character for an unknown reason
2) former friend of main character, before some incedend (sp?)
3) ends up helping the main character defeat the main boss, despite the fact that they hate the main character.
4) never kills the main character, even after having nine or more perfect chances to do so.
5) saves main character countless times from danger, because "they want to be the one to kill them"
6) bad a*s personality

I guess that means Wolf O'Donnel shouldn't get in, because all of these factors aply to him...

really, being generic has nothing to do with anything. everybody hopes that Wolf is going to be in Brawl (which is probably will). regardless of him being generic. yet people argue that characters like K. Rool shouldn't get in, simply because thier generic... that dosn't make any sense!

and besides. being generic, and being filler are compleatly different. Waluigi is filler, made only for the purpose of having more characters. K. Rool is NOT filler, because he was there from the beginning, and is important to the frabchise he represents.

 

[Konuk]

So no one Likes Vegeta wow that saddens me =_=.

 

[HiddenTiger]

@ HiddenTiger: those are some good desriptions of a generic villian. now heres mine on generic video game rivals (not in any particular order)

1) hates main character for an unknown reason
2) former friend of main character, before some incedend (sp?)
3) ends up helping the main character defeat the main boss, despite the fact that they hate the main character.
4) never kills the main character, even after having nine or more perfect chances to do so.
5) saves main character countless times from danger, because "they want to be the one to kill them"
6) bad a*s personality

I guess that means Wolf O'Donnel shouldn't get in, because all of these factors aply to him...

The thing is, while Wolf O'Donnel does fit into those stereotypes, he is not comprised of them. Unlike Rool, the character of Wolf has been expanded on and evolved beyond just being a bad guy for the sole purpose of being a bad guy. Conversely, Rool is an entity comprised of nothing but goofy villain stereotypes, and has never, in the entire DK franchise, been developed past the point of "He's the goofy bad guy who always fails." DK needs more characters. This is undoubtedly true. That does not mean it has to be a villain. There's plenty of monkeys to go around.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

ummm.... excuse me!? sorry, but thats just stupid... Wart obviously looks the most like K. Rool. Wart has a crown, cape, gold wrist bands, and goofy proportions. K. Rool also has all those things. the only thing remotly smililar about Kraid and Rool are the colours.

I supose the fact that Kraid has 23 times more body mass then K. Rool, spikes protruding from his torso, a long tail (K. Rool dosn't have a tail. or at least not a noticable one), and three eyes, didn't cross your mind when you were comparing them...

@ HiddenTiger: those are some good desriptions of a generic villian. now heres mine on generic video game rivals (not in any particular order)

1) hates main character for an unknown reason
2) former friend of main character, before some incedend (sp?)
3) ends up helping the main character defeat the main boss, despite the fact that they hate the main character.
4) never kills the main character, even after having nine or more perfect chances to do so.
5) saves main character countless times from danger, because "they want to be the one to kill them"
6) bad a*s personality

I guess that means Wolf O'Donnel shouldn't get in, because all of these factors aply to him...

really, being generic has nothing to do with anything. everybody hopes that Wolf is going to be in Brawl (which is probably will). regardless of him being generic. yet people argue that characters like K. Rool shouldn't get in, simply because thier generic... that dosn't make any sense!

and besides. being generic, and being filler are compleatly different. Waluigi is filler, made only for the purpose of having more characters. K. Rool is NOT filler, because he was there from the beginning, and is important to the frabchise he represents.

Okay I don't know why you lashed out at me because if you look at the pictures I was just agreeing with the person that posted them. He had kraid circled in red meaning he looked like him the most. And that is my opinion not yours so stop trying to cram yours down my throat. Just because you yell your opinions doesn't mean I will change I am my own person, and just because I didn't think just like you doesn't give you the right to act like that. So get over ourself and face facts not everone thinks the same.

And yes wart and K. rool do have alot in common and look alike, but I still think kraid looks more like k. rool. MY OPINION!!!

To anyone else that isn't you...

they are one in the same and you know it. Face structure is almost the same, the breast line is the same, feet are some what similar, and they both have some thing going down their chest (kraid has the spikes) (and k. rool has that line). And they basicly
have the same pose in those pictures. HEY YOU!! MY OPINION JUST STOP!!

 

[marthsword]

His name is pun

He is a dumb bowser knockoff

nuff said

 

[T-major]

The thing is, while Wolf O'Donnel does fit into those stereotypes, he is not comprised of them. Unlike Rool, the character of Wolf has been expanded on and evolved beyond just being a bad guy for the sole purpose of being a bad guy. Conversely, Rool is an entity comprised of nothing but goofy villain stereotypes, and has never, in the entire DK franchise, been developed past the point of "He's the goofy bad guy who always fails." DK needs more characters. This is undoubtedly true. That does not mean it has to be a villain. There's plenty of monkeys to go around.

you do know that K. Rool was purposly made to be a goofy, failure of a villain, right? he was intentionaly made that way for comedic effect. and seeing as he's the main villian of the DKC series, he was needed in the games, and was in no way filler. Wolf was added, literaly, just so Fox would have a rival. StarFox could have easily gotten by without Wolf being in there. DKC couldn't even exist without K. Rool, because it would just be stupid if DK was just running around dangerous parts of his island for no reason. K. Rool is way to improtant to the franchise to be ignored.

and what do you mean by "plenty of monkeys to go around"? theres Diddy. thats one monkey besides DK, thats not nearly enough (and no, Dixie or anyone else dosn't deserve to be in).

 

[HiddenTiger]

you do know that K. Rool was purposly made to be a goofy, failure of a villain, right? he was intentionaly made that way for comedic effect. and seeing as he's the main villian of the DKC series, he was needed in the games, and was in no way filler. Wolf was added, literaly, just so Fox would have a rival. StarFox could have easily gotten by without Wolf being in there. DKC couldn't even exist without K. Rool, because it would just be stupid if DK was just running around dangerous parts of his island for no reason. K. Rool is way to improtant to the franchise to be ignored.

Your point here fails because, while what you say about origins is true, it's what happened afterward that makes the difference in the long run.

True, Rool was created to be a goofy bumbler, and he stays true to that. The problem is that they left him there afterward. They've never done anything with Rool to adapt him as a character. He's remained the same generic bumbler since DKC 1.

True, Wolf was added just to be Fox's rival. However, he has become a lot more than that ever since. He was given a much more in-depth personality and character. In Star Fox Command, several of the story paths revolve around Wolf and his team, and completely ignore Star Fox. A couple of the endings even end with him as the hero of the game. Wolf has become more than just a rival because they've made him more than just a rival.

and what do you mean by "plenty of monkeys to go around"? theres Diddy. thats one monkey besides DK, thats not nearly enough (and no, Dixie or anyone else dosn't deserve to be in).

That's opinion. I beleive that Dixie deserves it just as much as Diddy does. I'd like to see them as a team, personally, but I still think that she should be in the game either way. You can't just say "Dixie doesn't deserve it", unless of course, you are saying that your opinion is somehow better than mine?

 

[T-major]

Your point here fails because, while what you say about origins is true, it's what happened afterward that makes the difference in the long run.

True, Rool was created to be a goofy bumbler, and he stays true to that. The problem is that they left him there afterward. They've never done anything with Rool to adapt him as a character. He's remained the same generic bumbler since DKC 1.

True, Wolf was added just to be Fox's rival. However, he has become a lot more than that ever since. He was given a much more in-depth personality and character. In Star Fox Command, several of the story paths revolve around Wolf and his team, and completely ignore Star Fox. A couple of the endings even end with him as the hero of the game. Wolf has become more than just a rival because they've made him more than just a rival.

That's opinion. I beleive that Dixie deserves it just as much as Diddy does. I'd like to see them as a team, personally, but I still think that she should be in the game either way. You can't just say "Dixie doesn't deserve it", unless of course, you are saying that your opinion is somehow better than mine?

no personality? huh.... guess that means we can say good buy to Link... the only thing personalty wise about him is courage. they really havn't shown that much in-depth character development on Link. but he's still in, because he's an important character to an incredably important franchise. and really, in SSB, personality is hardly even shown. it reality, it all comes down to move sets, and character deservedness. two factor that K. Rool has plenty of (along with Wolf. I'm not against him, I was just using him to prove a point)

I know it's just opinion. they can put Dixie in, but the only way the would put her in is if she was a team character with Diddy. which is just stupid. the fact that there are people out there that like the idea of them being a team makes me sick. I personaly hate Dixie, but love Diddy, and I'm sure a lot of other people are with me on that. it would be stupid to team up two compleatly different characters, when they could easly be thier own characters.

 

[freeman123]

HiddenTiger
True, Rool was created to be a goofy bumbler, and he stays true to that. The problem is that they left him there afterward. They've never done anything with Rool to adapt him as a character. He's remained the same generic bumbler since DKC 1.

True, Wolf was added just to be Fox's rival. However, he has become a lot more than that ever since. He was given a much more in-depth personality and character. In Star Fox Command, several of the story paths revolve around Wolf and his team, and completely ignore Star Fox. A couple of the endings even end with him as the hero of the game. Wolf has become more than just a rival because they've made him more than just a rival.

You guys put way too much thought into your stupidity. No, K. Rool isn't like Wolf because he's not supposed to be. He's as different from Wolf as the Donkey Kong series is from Star Fox.

If K. Rool is a villain for the sake of being a villain, isn't Mario a hero for the sake of being a hero? What explination have they ever given for having an Italian plumber in a kingdom full of mushroom people saving a princess from some fire breathing turtle thing?

Comparing K. Rool to Wolf is like comparing the Powerpuff Girls to Spider-Man.

HiddenTiger
I beleive that Dixie deserves it just as much as Diddy does.

Well, you're wrong.

HiddenTiger
I'd like to see them as a team

That's because you're dumb.

HiddenTiger
You can't just say "Dixie doesn't deserve it"

Why not? You can just say "K. Rool doesn't deserve it" apparently. Since, according to you, whether or not a character deserves to be in the game depends on how much they're like Wolf, how is Dixie like Wolf? Dixie hasn't developed into blah blah blah... whatever stupid crap you said about Wolf... Wolf even has some scenes about him or something, remember? I don't know, you said it.

HiddenTiger
you are saying that your opinion is somehow better than mine?

My dog's opinion is better then yours.

T-major
no personality? huh.... guess that means we can say good buy to Link... the only thing personalty wise about him is courage.

Yeah, but in Link's new game he can turn into a wolf. That makes him like Wolf from Star Fox, because Wolf is a wolf. And in case you haven't heard, that's the only factor that matters in determining who gets to Wolf in Super Wolf Bros.


Wolf!

 

[HiddenTiger]

^^^ Are you high or just incredibly stupid? If you had bothered to read anything at all, you'd have known it was Mr. Green-text over there that brought up Wolf in the first place, not me. And who the **** do you think you are to say that I'm stupid because I have a different opinion than you? Who are you to say your opinion is better than mine. Watch, I can do that to:

Every single person who thinks that Rool deserves to be in Brawl is mentally ******** because I disagree with them.

Does that make me right now? It seems to work for you. Jesus Christ, you're all a bunch of freakin' Nazi's around here. One person shows up with a different opinion that your own, and you all pounce on him like a pack of ravenous wolves (O noez! I said wolves!!!shift1 Now your going to make another ******** post about how I think wolf should be every character in Smash!)

 

[JaySmith]

I'd totally use K.Rool if he was in the game. Sure bowser was one of the lowest tiered characters but I bet nintendo will learn from this and figure out a way to make bowser more balanced, and then hopefully use that strategy to make K.Rool balanced as well. I'd have loads of fun playing as him, he's a **** cool guy.

 

[shadenexus18]

^^^ Are you high or just incredibly stupid? If you had bothered to read anything at all, you'd have known it was Mr. Green-text over there that brought up Wolf in the first place, not me. And who the **** do you think you are to say that I'm stupid because I have a different opinion than you? Who are you to say your opinion is better than mine. Watch, I can do that to:

Every single person who thinks that Rool deserves to be in Brawl is mentally ******** because I disagree with them.

Does that make me right now? It seems to work for you. Jesus Christ, you're all a bunch of freakin' Nazi's around here. One person shows up with a different opinion that your own, and you all pounce on him like a pack of ravenous wolves (O noez! I said wolves!!!shift1 Now your going to make another ******** post about how I think wolf should be every character in Smash!)[/QUOTE ]

Your right. I'd probably get pissed at Freeman if he quoted everything that I said and commented negatively & said I was stupid in everyone of them. I wonder what his problem is? People like that should really think before they make boasts like that.