"Justice Always Triumphs." - Ryu Hayabusa for Smash Switch! (Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive)

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Anyone think IAmShifty still has any credbility?
Him claiming Ryu Hayabusa to be the 4th Fighters Pass character and then that turning out to be Terry Bogard hurt him quite a bit. Ryu being announced for Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate around the same time made things worse. I cannot take Shifty's word as anything less than miscommunication between him and his sources about which Ultimate game Ryu is getting into. Until his sources can physically provide tangible evidence that Ryu is in fact getting into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, I can't take his word for it.
 
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Him claiming Ryu Hayabusa to be the 4th Fighters Pass character and then that turning out to be Terry Bogard hurt him quite a bit. Ryu being announced for Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate around the same time made things worse. I cannot take Shifty's word as anything less than miscommunication between him and his sources about which Ultimate game Ryu is getting into. Until his sources can physically provide tangible evidence that Ryu is in fact getting into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, I can't take his word for it.
I’m curious on what his full track record is currently. What did he get wrong? Predicting Piranha Plant is just really impressive to me. Hard to know of course.
 

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I’m curious on what his full track record is currently. What did he get wrong? Predicting Piranha Plant is just really impressive to me. Hard to know of course.
I only watched his videos where he claimed Hayabusa was the 4th DLC character and his follow up to that where he confirms Hayabusa is still coming. He apparently leaked Piranha Plant and Marx as a boss, before those two were revealed to be true. As for Hayabusa, he said he knew and hinted at him ever since April 1st on Twitter or something. I don't follow Shifty so I can't corroborate all his claims. I am not completely unbelieving of Shifty but that Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate announcement soon after his video really puts a damper on things even if he said his sources are from Nintendo.
 

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I really want to believe IAmShifty since he predicted Hayabusa, but I’ve lost a lot of faith.

In his first video he was very adamant that Ryu Hayabusa would be the fourth DLC character. He retracted that in his next video and said “as far as I know” my sources still say he’s coming. I’ve spoken with him a couple times on Twitter as well.

He hasn’t responded to my most recent tweet where I asked him if he’s still certain about Ryu (as of this morning) and he’s posting a bunch of other stuff about Astral Chain/enjoying Banjo. To me, it seems like he’s trying to deflect attention to other things since he messed up.
 

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Hey, Spazzy! Big Source Gaming fan! What's the project? (Or is that a secret?) Also, how likely do you think Ryu Hayabusa is? (P.S., if you don't mind indulging, what characters do you think are likely for Fighter #5 + post-pass DLC?)
Just doing an "All Content" Ryu Hayabusa video. I'm a fan, and played through the original trilogy and all three of the new 3D games, but I could always use some other fans to bounce ideas off of.

I think Hayabusa, a Resident Evil character, and maybe Doom Guy are likely. Crash seems like a good choice, too, and I am actually liking Geno's chances at the moment.

Still hard to say without knowing the post fighter pass approach to DLC, though.

That's a great start! I might reach out to you to discuss a few things if that's all right.
 
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Listen up


This is telling me no more 1st party for smash ultimate
 

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I hope they aren't done with adding NES games for Nintendo Switch Online. It'd be really nice to have Ninja Gaiden 2 & 3 which would be more accessible with save states.

On another note, anyone believe in the so called "color theory"? On the official Smash Ultimate website, all the DLC characters have a color behind them, presumably their primary design color or something related to them specifically. Piranha Plant is green (it's stem and leaves), Joker is red (Persona 5's main color theme), Hero is purple (primary design color), Banjo & Kazooie is yellowish (presumably the Jiggies), and Terry Bogard is blue (SNK logo). The last color for fighter#5 would presumably be orange which would be hard to argue it being Ryu Hayabusa because he is primarily black in his modern design and blue in his NES incarnation. The best I can think of is the NES Ninja Gaiden title art is red and yellow then converges to orange in the middle, Ryu is shown in front of flames in the boxart of NES Ninja Gaiden 1 & 3, Ninja Gaiden Black & Sigma and maybe Dragon Sword, and he has fire ninpo. I know this is flimsy reasoning but my main focus is if the color theory has merit to it.
 
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I just finished the original Ninja Gaiden for the first time ever and it was hard as *****. I can't stand the constant respawn of the enemies after you kill them it makes me want to tear my hair out. I liked it, but it has it's flaws. I'm not too sure if I will try Ninja Gaiden 2 and 3 yet.
Yes. It's one of the most fun and frustrating games on the NES library.
Doesn't help that after playing VICE: Project Doom (NES as well), I got spoiled by what's essentially the exact same game engine, but much better controls.

Still, I really hope NG2 and NG3 grace the NSO NES service. I never made it that far in either of them.

Oh, and naturally the New Gen ones as well. Maybe on portable I can make myself finish it.
 
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I got an Xbox One S and started Ninja Gaiden Black. I'm on chapter 2. So far it's really fun and I'm getting used to the controls. I'm having a hard time against enemies that defend themselves. Kicking them helps, but I think that's it.
Any tips for the game in general?
 

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What does everyone think about finally having a character that can change weapons? I just think it’d be interesting to have someone that changes their attacks (except specials unless the devs are feeling bold) but keeps all their other stats. Honestly I feel like Ryu would be perfect for this. Probably won’t happen at the DLC stage because of how involved it would be, but you never know. What would work best for a weapon in addition to the Dragon Sword? Personally I was thinking on having the Eclispe Scythe.
 

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What does everyone think about finally having a character that can change weapons? I just think it’d be interesting to have someone that changes their attacks (except specials unless the devs are feeling bold) but keeps all their other stats. Honestly I feel like Ryu would be perfect for this. Probably won’t happen at the DLC stage because of how involved it would be, but you never know. What would work best for a weapon in addition to the Dragon Sword? Personally I was thinking on having the Eclispe Scythe.
I've been thinking this for quite some time. Due to his mastery of multiple weapon styles, Ryu could be used as an outlet for showcases of various Japanese/ninja weaponry. Obviously, the Dragon Sword would be one of them. Other possible options are Lunar Staff, Nunchaku, Kusarigama, Eclipse Scythe, Falcon's Talons, Tonfa, Dual Katanas, etc. He could even reference Dead or Alive with his Hayabusa Ninjitsu fighting style as a separate stance.

Although, the switching of different fighting styles would be cool, it would no doubt take more resources to develop a character like that due to them essentially being multiple characters in one thus taking more time to make. If a character like this were in the mind of the developers, they'd probably limit his potential to three stances/styles, like Pokemon Trainer's three Pokemon in one. Personally, the only moves I would change are the normal A attack moves: neutral A attack, 3 tilts, 3 smashes, and 4 aerials, as well as his idle and block animations. Everything else would stay the same so they wouldn't have that much more to work with.
 
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What does everyone think about finally having a character that can change weapons? I just think it’d be interesting to have someone that changes their attacks (except specials unless the devs are feeling bold) but keeps all their other stats. Honestly I feel like Ryu would be perfect for this. Probably won’t happen at the DLC stage because of how involved it would be, but you never know. What would work best for a weapon in addition to the Dragon Sword? Personally I was thinking on having the Eclispe Scythe.
To be honest the only character I can see them doing this for is Dante.
 
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I got bored, so I decided to look at some stuff on Koei's wiki for fun. 1 of the things I stumbled upon was a DLC page for Warriors Orochi 3 on wikia which had this wallpaper of Ryu Hayabusa.

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I've seen too many of the same renders of him being used for stuff related to Smash, but I really like the way he looks here. I'd dig it if his Smash render would look a lot like this.
 
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Why is that? Who was the very first character to have multiple main weapons anyway?
Well, just because I can see them choosing to make that Dante's gimmick if he ever gets playable - to differentiate him from other characters.

I don't think that's what they'd go for with Hayabusa, he doesn't need it to stand out and imo they'd go for a moveset more inspired on the original trilogy with a few moves from the new ones added - like Simon.
 

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I don't think that's what they'd go for with Hayabusa, he doesn't need it to stand out and imo they'd go for a moveset more inspired on the original trilogy with a few moves from the new ones added - like Simon.
Ryu is in quite the precarious position since he has plenty of fans from both the NES and modern trilogies, even Dead or Alive shouldn't be dismissed. I would personally strike a balance with his moveset so not one series is more prevalent in references than the others.

As for Simon, I don't think anyone actually remembers him fondly in other games than the NES and SNES ones. Ryu Hayabusa, on the hand, is much more recognizable in his modern appearance due to still having a prominent marketable presence in the active Dead or Alive and Warriors series, currently Dead or Alive 6 and Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate for both.
 
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Ryu is in quite the precarious position since he has plenty of fans from both the NES and modern trilogies, even Dead or Alive shouldn't be dismissed. I would personally strike a balance with his moveset so not one series is more prevalent in references than the others.

As for Simon, I don't think anyone actually remembers him fondly in other games than the NES and SNES ones. Ryu Hayabusa, on the hand, is much more recognizable in his modern appearance due to still having a prominent marketable presence in the active Dead or Alive and Warriors series, currently Dead or Alive 6 and Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate for both.
That's a fair point.
 
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