Just a quick question regarding online lag...

[Joker701]

Okay, so you're facing someone online and you're experiencing little lag on your side. However, your opponent claims that they were getting major lag on their end.

My question is: is that possible? The way I understood is that the players on each end are playing under the same conditions. (Both players experience little lag, both players experience major lag, etc.)

 

[Noodlehead]

I dont think this is even possible. i would think everybody would have the same amount of lag.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

I agree with noodlehead

 

[Gamekidadv]

Yeah, it is impossible. You both are playing at the same time under the same conditions.

 

[PK-ow!]

No, it seems possible.

Imagine the game being run somewhere. Like a theatre inside a black box.

Running into this box are input streams - these are the (controller) inputs from each player.
Running out of this box are the output streams - the game display (plus, because Brawl people don't have any **** clue that a smash games needs all data preloaded, a whole lot of other info, such as Sheik's data).

Suppose the streams to and from one player are much longer than another's.

Then the theatre inside the black box will still run - it has no idea how the inputs got there; it just processes them in the order they were input, and plays the game.

It also can't be held responsible for how much lag there is in the feedback. It sends the display off at both output streams at (in all practicality) the same time, but one player may be observing the game state 50 ms ago (and what he input 100 ms ago), while the other may be the same for 500 and 1000 ms.

So it's certainly possible.

It's anyone's guess why the hell it is actual.

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There's also the chance one player is more tolerant of lag than the other. Just recently, I was getting pwned by a Samus in a game where I was having a full second of lag.
I'm like.... dude, he's playing a mean Samus. With 1 second of lag. That can't be right.
In any case, I had and have no desire to adapt to that much lag so I quit.

What ticks me off is how you can only measure your ping to people who are OFFLINE. That's just stupid.

 

[Tlock]

Nintendo has stated they make it where they slow down the fastest connection to match the slower connection.

Thus BOTH players are playing with the same amount of lag.

 

[mysticwolf]

both players have the same lag.

if one player had less lag than another player, then the player's game with less lag would end before the player's game with more lag, proving that this is impossible.

my guess is that you and your opponent have different perceptions of "little" and "major" lag.

 

[Fenvir]

So when you are getting matched on 'with anyone', is wifi already matching you with players with similar connection speeds or is it completely random? So the only way you are guaranteed a smooth game is to play friends with green connections? Wondering if so, or my connection is just crud and I am getting matched with other crud connections.

 

[Ørion]

^ I doubt that it features something as in depth and advance as connecting based on connection speed. Thus, if there is one person running on a horrible connection and three people with the newest lightning fast fiber optics, they would all get bad lag.

 

[1337-Zero]

I think it's button lag ( the lag between your button press and your character reacting to it ).
When I press the a button, my character attacks 1/4 second later while my friend has about 1/16 of a second lag.

 

[stratele]

this morning I had seriously bad lag, there was a 5 second button lag!

But I swear noone else had that much, it dident look like it.

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Um... unless time travel is possible via Wiis. No.

 

[Chibi-pika]

When he says major lag doesn't it mean he can be overestimating it? or something like that?

 

[star214wolf]

no we both get da same lag cuzz i face my friends and they all tell me about how we all got lagged