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JP Sonic! [RATS]

thecatinthehat

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Yeah I'm pretty beast at DDR.
I'm pretty good at GH as well.

Tenki, we hijacked your thread. I wanna see you rage. Now.

edit: Tenki WTF? You always ****ing do that.

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 

infomon

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Oh man, I used to pwwwwwn at DDR. Had some crazy techs for some songs, I've done full spins during the long combos of Break Down lol <3

Could never really get into ITG tho, so I gave up the ddr scene. Supernova is fail.
 

da K.I.D.

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ITG has the best song list

p.s. tenki, we have discussed RATS into the ground, theres nothing else to say about him that hasnt been said already.
just make sure these vids are in the winning steak thread
 

Fear The Force

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RATS has by far the best sonic I've ever seen. He rarely makes any mistakes, knows how to put pressure on his opponents, and is just full of surprises. I watched most of his vids, and I learned something new in EACH ONE.

btw, props to that sick ganon and bowser, o.o
 

Chis

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Personal I've seen better. Not wanting to take away from how good he was though.
 

R4ZE

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suprised to see a sonic get killed by being grabbed out of his p-b and released with no hit.

i thought my d3 friend was the only person who did that.


is there any way to avoid this? the 2 methods i have had... is to execute up-b to where the "dodge frames" are at the grabber's level . or i wait and fall lower so that i can execute fair on the person who is trying to grab gimp me.
(im not sure either of these methods are full proof)
 

Tenki

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suprised to see a sonic get killed by being grabbed out of his p-b and released with no hit.

i thought my d3 friend was the only person who did that.


is there any way to avoid this? the 2 methods i have had... is to execute up-b to where the "dodge frames" are at the grabber's level. or i wait and fall lower so that i can execute fair on the person who is trying to grab gimp me.
Eh, I do it all the time, through wifi, of all things. (LOL GOOD LUCK ON TIMING XD)
Don't gamble on the dodge frames. Mis-space it and there are a bunch of 'vulnerable' frames where you can't do anything, between the invincyframes and the 'i can do almost anything' frames.

If you HAVE to use spring:
1) Use spring slightly further from the edge (B-air could even poke at them if you want to attack without the fear of getting grabbed)
2) Use spring with the intention of dodging, instead of attacking.

I've also had a funny moment where they did the first choice while going high above the edge. I rolled back and grabbed him before he landed, and he airescaped and got gimped anyway lol.
 

Tenki

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Yeah, it's possible.

lol I've done it accidentally a few times but I don't know the exact spacing needed for it.
 

Tenki

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ehhhh?

I thought it was alot closer to the spring.

Like


Peak of UpB
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|______________________________}Sonic sweetspots somewhere here.
Sonic leaves spring / spring falls down
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ROOOOY!

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Just after the end of invincibility frames then seemingly?

Edit after seeing Tenki's diagram : ah..maybe not.
 

infomon

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Whoah, I'll need to test that. Does that allow us to just kinda continually drop springs down on people trying to recover? (drop > spring > ledgecancel, drop > spring > ledgecancel, etc.)
 

Espy Rose

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Really? So Sonic does sweetspot?

I'm going to have to test abunch of this stuff...
 

Tenki

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Really? So Sonic does sweetspot?

I'm going to have to test abunch of this stuff...
lol it's not really useful unless you REAAALLY need that 1 inch to grab the ledge. It's stupid and really low-range otherwise.

Edit:
Tenki to say on topic you still haven't shared your opinion of RATS
honestly I haven't even watched all the vids yet lol. I watched like 2, and it looked just like my 'experimental' style over the summer with the side-B cancel spam and spring spam. Just less ASC and better stuff overall.

`.`; when I get around to watching more vids, I'll rate him or something if it's not redundant lol.
 

Espy Rose

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lol it's not really useful unless you REAAALLY need that 1 inch to grab the ledge. It's stupid and really low-range otherwise.
I wouldn't necessarily say that just yet. If this does indeed sweetspot, I can already point out several situations where I would've gotten a KO from an edgehog that I was unable to get because of springing high into the air instead.
 
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