Social Jigglypuff Social Thread (read first post!)

[Framerate]

I just had a really good puff ditto on FG. Guy's tag was just "s". Dude, you shoulda stuck around! It was a sweet match!

 

[Soup's On!]

So I've spent some time trying to find other characters to play as in Smash 4. I have a few I'd like to work on getting to a playable state.

But the default fighter I've fallen back to when it's time to get serious is the one I played in Melee, the balloon.

Smash games come and go, but Jigg mains are forever.

 

[Jiggly]

So Hbox dropped puff for DDD

 

[DJDave189]

So Hbox dropped puff for DDD

I guess he wanted the D.

Sorry had to say it. lol

 

[link and ike lover]

Cant Luigi kill Jigglypuff at like 60% percent and higher with his down special while its goin up

 

[CHOVI]

So Hbox dropped puff for DDD

I'm glad he did it. Now he can finally get serious. (Since he didn't really seem comfortable using puff)

 

[Codaption]

Here's to hoping he comes back to her someday, but I wouldn't really mind too much either way. It's a new game, he should feel free to play who he wants.

 

[MisterDom]

I just had a really good puff ditto on FG. Guy's tag was just "s". Dude, you shoulda stuck around! It was a sweet match!

I played him once. I don't remember who won though... Though I have a good puff, I stink playing other ones. lol

 

[TheReflexWonder]

After spending a few hours playing against our resident Sheik in GA, I have decided that if I go up against a significant Sheik at CEO, I will probably go Jigglypuff. That is also pretty likely, considering Master Raven is in my bracket pool.

 

[kackamee]

After spending a few hours playing against our resident Sheik in GA, I have decided that if I go up against a significant Sheik at CEO, I will probably go Jigglypuff. That is also pretty likely, considering Master Raven is in my bracket pool.

Why puff over Wario?

 

[Codaption]

So, you're saying we have an okay matchup against her? What brought you to that conclusion, just how the matchup felt or...

 

[Aquamentii]

I picked up Jiggs earlier this week and she's so much fun. You can see the salt levels rise in people every time you space around aerials and then you hit them up with rest and it's probably the most satisfying move in the game to hit. Do yall think it's more satysfying to hit rest as a punish or a read? I think as a punish bc the other person knows it was their fault.

 

[CHOVI]

So, you're saying we have an okay matchup against her? What brought you to that conclusion, just how the matchup felt or...

I also think we have a good matchup since she can't air combo/juggle us, and needles don't really do much against us.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Why puff over Wario?

Much easier to trade, using Rest at lower percents doesn't have much repercussion even on a miss, we can reasonably avoid Needles better than most. I think we do...alright.

 

[kackamee]

Much easier to trade, using Rest at lower percents doesn't have much repercussion even on a miss, we can reasonably avoid Needles better than most. I think we do...alright.

Hm. Good luck buddy (: I'm rooting for you.

 

[Codaption]

Discussing it on the puff skype got me pretty much the same response. This is actually pretty cool to know!

 

[Capita]

So Hbox dropped puff for DDD

Well, he didn't for CEO apparently. Really good stuff to Hungrybox. Didn't expect him to do nearly as well as he did. I got hyped when he was actually able to take out Dabuz when they 1v1. I really doubted he was going to go that far with ZeRo, but that's what happens when you sleep on someone. It's so much more hype to see Puff in Sm4sh rather than in Melee.

 

[CHOVI]

Well, he didn't for CEO apparently. Really good stuff to Hungrybox. Didn't expect him to do nearly as well as he did. I got hyped when he was actually able to take out Dabuz when they 1v1. I really doubted he was going to go that far with ZeRo, but that's what happens when you sleep on someone. It's so much more hype to see Puff in Sm4sh rather than in Melee.

That's just doubles though. I think he's going DDD in singles

 

[drakeirving]

DDD doesn't play nice in doubles while Jiggs has punish-free Rests aplenty, plus Hbox already has tons of doubles experience with Puff overall. Not really a question.

 

[FUEGO!]

That's just doubles though. I think he's going DDD in singles

He should just go Puff...he has shown he is more than capable with that clutch 1v1 on Dabuz

 

[Jiggly]

I am now thinking Hbox's change to DDD is smart. He plays Sm4sh puff like melee puff, and you can tell it doesnt work for him. He got lots of rests. but that happens in doubles often. He kept approaching with Bair, and spacing with fair, which is backwards for sm4sh puff. He didnt use pound except for recovery, which doesnt help and messes with your recovery. He never punished shields with pound or dair either. He is gonna have a tough time playing the same character between games, especially when they play differently. I think it's smart to go to DDD, as he can focus on his melee puff, and continue his DDD fundamentals from brawl. He will probably use puffs for certain matchups and doubles, but DDD is a better choice.

 

[FUEGO!]

I am now thinking Hbox's change to DDD is smart. He plays Sm4sh puff like melee puff, and you can tell it doesnt work for him. He got lots of rests. but that happens in doubles often. He kept approaching with Bair, and spacing with fair, which is backwards for sm4sh puff. He didnt use pound except for recovery, which doesnt help and messes with your recovery. He never punished shields with pound or dair either. He is gonna have a tough time playing the same character between games, especially when they play differently. I think it's smart to go to DDD, as he can focus on his melee puff, and continue his DDD fundamentals from brawl. He will probably use puffs for certain matchups and doubles, but DDD is a better choice.

It's disappointing but I understand. I still think it's more important to try and convince someone with crazy good Puff fundamentals come and develop our meta a little...

 

[CHOVI]

It's disappointing but I understand. I still think it's more important to try and convince someone with crazy good Puff fundamentals come and develop our meta a little...

IDK man this sounds kind of entitled. I mean if you want someone to develop the meta why not do it yourself? (I know it would be easier for him, but life ain't easy )

 

[Hoejja]

Did you guys see hbox play 1v1 ? i only saw him playing doubles with zero, and he used villager pretty well i gotta say.

And @Reflex : I saw you play a sheik yesterday and no puff ;'(

 

[Codaption]

It's disappointing but I understand. I still think it's more important to try and convince someone with crazy good Puff fundamentals come and develop our meta a little...

Fundamentals are always nice, but Smash 4 Puff is not Melee Puff- they might as well be different characters. Hungrybox keeping Puff wouldn't do much, if anything, for out meta, and would really only ending up hurting him. At least with Dedede he might get some better results, and I support his decision.

 

[Jiggly]

Did you guys see hbox play 1v1 ? i only saw him playing doubles with zero, and he used villager pretty well i gotta say.

And @Reflex : I saw you play a sheik yesterday and no puff ;'(

it musn't have been a significant sheik.

 

[MisterDom]

I picked up Jiggs earlier this week and she's so much fun. You can see the salt levels rise in people every time you space around aerials and then you hit them up with rest and it's probably the most satisfying move in the game to hit. Do yall think it's more satysfying to hit rest as a punish or a read? I think as a punish bc the other person knows it was their fault.

Read because it's more satisfying. I think a read brings more salt out oft opponents too. (Out of people I played)

 

[Kanzaki]

I've always had a pocket jiggs that I pull out in friendlies for fun, but after watching Hbox in doubles this past weekend, I may consider using jiggs as my doubles main ^^

 

[CHOVI]

I've always had a pocket jiggs that I pull out in friendlies for fun, but after watching Hbox in doubles this past weekend, I may consider using jiggs as my doubles main ^^

Yeah, Jiggs is awesome for doubles.

 

[FUEGO!]

IDK man this sounds kind of entitled. I mean if you want someone to develop the meta why not do it yourself? (I know it would be easier for him, but life ain't easy )

Fundamentals are always nice, but Smash 4 Puff is not Melee Puff- they might as well be different characters. Hungrybox keeping Puff wouldn't do much, if anything, for out meta, and would really only ending up hurting him. At least with Dedede he might get some better results, and I support his decision.

Yeah, sorry, the player in me doesn't always rationalize what the spectator in me desires

 

[Codaption]

It's alright- a big player is a big deal, and so is losing Hungrybox as one of ours. Just that when you analyze it, he didn't gain much from playing puff, and he didn't benefit us too much either as far as meta development goes- really, a change like this was bound to happen.

 

[Jiggly]

I'm calling it now, because of all the CEO hype, I have a feeling Hbox is gonna get pressured into using puff again.

 

[CHOVI]

I'm calling it now, because of all the CEO hype, I have a feeling Hbox is gonna get pressured into using puff again.

That seems to have already happened. Here's how he responded to me on twitter regarding smash 4:
https://twitter.com/LiquidHbox/status/615348497236250624

 

[Hoejja]

But... Switching to ddd ? He sucks too ;(

 

[Jiggly]

But... Switching to ddd ? He sucks too ;(

he played him in brawl, so the playstyle carries over. sm4sh puff plays different from melee puff, and it can get confusing. It's just a smarter switch for him.

 

[Kanzaki]

Playing the same character across different games gets complicated. Main reason why you don't see M2K use Sheik in Smash 4.

I have played Mario in all the Smashes.. but I still play PM competitively, so playing him in Smash 4 hurts both games.

 

[Game&Watcher]

Playing the same character across different games gets complicated. Main reason why you don't see M2K use Sheik in Smash 4.

Especially since she is no longer able to do chain-related shenanigans.

 

[MisterDom]

Yeah. Hbox is going to get pressured, but I think (and hope) he stays with Dedede.

 

[CHOVI]

I'm hoping he switches to Villager. That'd be fun

 

[MisterDom]

I'm hoping he switches to Villager. That'd be fun

Yeah, Villager is amazing. I'd like to see what Hbox can do with him, but in doubles he seemed to be pretty average. I can tell he was just trying to do all of his spacey moves, and not die so ZeRo can have extra stocks, but he wasn't going all out. Singles at EVO?