Japanese SSB4 ads rising, some companies not credited, characters cut?

[StarLight42]

While browsing silly GameFaqs, I saw something that is actually quite interesting.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePqAF4JlWY

It's basically just a japanese commercial which sparks interest due to some things....

APE Inc. is not credited, this means possibly the loss of Ness, but, I just can't believe it, would he really get cut? I'd rather have Jigglypuff cut than Ness.

Konami isn't credited either, which leads to the cutting of Snake, I hope he didn't get cut, but this is kind of that final nail in the coffin.

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One other thing I should mention is that Mario's final smash has been offficialy confirmed to be Mario Finale and not changing.....i'm going to contain my rage for that and explode somehwere else.

Thoughts?

Also i'm sorry if this didn't belong here and fits more in the SSB4 character discussion but I was really trying to bring up the commercial in general rather than Ness and Snake's absence.

 

[ScottyWK]

Snake being cut has seemed like a forgone conclusion for awhile. I'm unfamiliar about why this means Ness would be cut though.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Ape Inc is now Creatures Inc.

From WIkipedia: Creatures Inc.(株式会社クリーチャーズ Kabushiki-gaisha Kurīchāzu?) is a Japanese video game development company. It was founded by Tsunekazu Ishihara in November 1995, as a successor to Shigesato Itoi's company Ape Inc.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatures_(company)

Besides, Franklin Badge and Mr. Saturn

 

[KokiriKory]

This needs to be stickied -

These items are in the game. The Mother series developer does not need to be credited in an ad to use their assets. Ness and Lucas will more than likely return. You are panicking because you haven't seen them yet, like a dog when its master goes to work.

edit: and there you go, they changed their name to Creatures and that's in the commercial

 

[praline]

Pretty sure Creatures Inc. owns the Mother series.

 

[StarLight42]

Creatures Inc, Ape Inc, and Shigesato Itoi were all credited in Brawl.

 

[ScottyWK]

If you're going to use this as gospel, then I think it can put the Rayman rumors to bed too considering Ubisoft isn't listed.

 

[Nielicus]

Sega wasn't credited until Sonic was revealed btw, it's to not give spoilers

 

[LancerStaff]

While browsing silly GameFaqs, I saw something that is actually quite interesting.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePqAF4JlWY

It's basically just a japanese commercial which sparks interest due to some things....

APE Inc. is not credited, this means possibly the loss of Ness, but, I just can't believe it, would he really get cut? I'd rather have Jigglypuff cut than Ness.

Konami isn't credited either, which leads to the cutting of Snake, I hope he didn't get cut, but this is kind of that final nail in the coffin.

---

One other thing I should mention is that Mario's final smash has been offficialy confirmed to be Mario Finale and not changing.....i'm going to contain my rage for that and explode somehwere else.

Thoughts?

Also i'm sorry if this didn't belong here and fits more in the SSB4 character discussion but I was really trying to bring up the commercial in general rather than Ness and Snake's absence.

Mario final was buffed in the demo. It's pretty fast and does stop short.

Anywho, Sega wasn't listed on the pre-Sonic videos. Companies probably aren't listed until the respective character gets a trailer.

Ninja'd...

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think that it's a big deal really. If credit is given to Creatures Inc. in the commercial, I'm pretty sure that it would spoil the game, would it not?
I bet credit will be added once Ness is revealed or he gets unlocked.

 

[Deleted member]

APE Inc = Creatures Inc. Ness is obviously going to be in the game. xD
As for Snake, well, I don't know, really. It probably means he's disconfirmed, but he could always been a DLC character or something else.

 

[TiaSilvia]

They only show those companies who already have a character confirmed in the game. That why we didn't see the sega and namco being listed until sonic and pac were confirmed.

 

[Soul.]

Ness and Lucas are coming back, lol. I'm not sure about Snake.
Creatures Inc. is credited, and that was Ape Inc., as the others have said. I think we shouldn't worry about the Mother characters returning, because they will... eventually.

 

[HyrulesLegend]

Ness and Lucas better back back.. >_<. I really could care less if Snake didn't return, he kinda always seemed like that character who just didn't fit in, in my opinion anyway.

 

[StarLight42]

Mario final was buffed in the demo. It's pretty fast and does stop short.

Anywho, Sega wasn't listed on the pre-Sonic videos. Companies probably aren't listed until the respective character gets a trailer.

Ninja'd...

I don't think being fast is a good thing, it just gives it a higher chance to miss. Luckily it looked pretty slow and powerful in that commercial, but why couldn't we get a cool new final smash for Mario?

 

[Xermo]

I don't think being fast is a good thing, it just gives it a higher chance to miss. Luckily it looked pretty slow and powerful in that commercial, but why couldn't we get a cool new final smash for Mario?

Being slow gives it a higher miss rate. You see it coming a mile away.

 

[LancerStaff]

I don't think being fast is a good thing, it just gives it a higher chance to miss. Luckily it looked pretty slow and powerful in that commercial, but why couldn't we get a cool new final smash for Mario?

The old FS was too easy to jump over because of how slow it was, but whatever.

Ninja'd again...

 

[Deoxys911]

It's been said, but it's worth being said again: companies are not credited in promotional materials until a playable character owned by them is officially revealed. When Ness is revealed, Ape and Itoi will be added, just like when Shulk is revealed Monolith Soft will be added to the copyright info.

 

[Starbound]

This is rather decisive evidence for Snake but Snake's return has been doubted for a while now so it's really not surprising.

 

[Xermo]

The old FS was too easy to jump over because of how slow it was, but whatever.

Ninja'd again...

Twice in one thread?

 

[LancerStaff]

Twice in one thread?

Three times and I get Ninja Palm'd.
Not that anybody'd get the reference.

 

[Jerm]

Sega wasn't credited until Sonic was revealed btw, it's to not give spoilers

Off topic but I just gotta say your signature just killed me! xD That man was so mad too...ahah good laugh

 

[Heropon]

This is rather decisive evidence for Snake but Snake's return has been doubted for a while now so it's really not surprising.

It's not decisive evidence against anyone, it's been said multiple times in the thread that companies don't get credited until their character is revealed.

 

[Kuraudo]

I'm just sitting here, hyped that commercials are appearing for a game that's just a little over a month away. IT'S HAPPENING!

 

[Deleted member]

Oi, the credits are of characters that have been revealed.
Taken directly from the site:
Characters: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc. / Pokémon. / Creatures Inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS / SEGA / CAPCOM CO., LTD. / BANDAI NAMCO Games Inc.
Intelligent Systems wasn't listed until Marth was shown.
Sega wasn't listed until Sonic was shown.
Bandai Namco wasn't listed until Pac-Man was shown.

Shigesato Itoi and Ape Inc. won't be listed until either Ness or Lucas are shown. (Yes, Creatures Inc. is Ape Inc. however, Brawl listed both.)
Konami won't be listed until Snake is shown (if Snake is in the game).

Others have said this, I know. But whatever.

 

[☆Jazz☆]

That gameplay looked EVEN MORE AMAZING than before...*faints*

 

[mygamecube]

Ads appearing?

Brace yourselves. The hype is coming.

 

[EnthusedPanda]

On another note, it's often amusing to me when people totally bank on Snake not reappearing.

You've absolutely fallen for Sakurai and Kojima's plot. I am fairly...confident.. anyway..

For me, anyway, Snake was so much of what made Brawl interesting and groundbreaking, and I'm not even a Metal Gear fan. I think it'd be folly not to include him.

 

[Meelow]

This is likely because the characters weren't shown in the commercial, if Mega Man wasn't confirmed yet, then I doubt we'd see Capcom listed.

Oh, and besides, cutting Ness and Lucis but keeping Toon Link and adding Lucina wouldn't make much sense.

Edit: Sorry about double posting, I had no idea

 

[Aunt Jemima]

@ Meelow

BAD MEELOW

WE DON'T DOUBLE POST

GO TO YOUR DEN

 

[Swamp Sensei]

@ Meelow

BAD MEELOW

WE DON'T DOUBLE POST

GO TO YOUR DEN

Please don't spam like that.

Just report it next time.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Wait, you thought the mario finale was gonna change after the demos showed it was still around? Um... okay.

Cool that the ads are out. Frankly, I'm not expecting snake anyways.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

As others have said this isn't an indication of anything we'll get in the final release as companies are added as characters are announced and unlocked. However, I do think this might be an indication of what we can expect to be announced pre-release as this commercial is going to run from now to launch, which doesn't spell good things for Snake and Lucas.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

No Monolith Soft?

No Shulk....



Not sure if this means a lot.

What did the Brawl commercials show?

As others have said this isn't an indication of anything we'll get in the final release as companies are added as characters are announced and unlocked. However, I do think this might be an indication of what we can expect to be announced pre-release as this commercial is going to run from now to launch, which doesn't spell good things for Snake and Lucas.

WAIT!

I think you hit the jackpot.

Now put this theory into motion....

If this commercial will be running from now til release, then perhaps....

A. We won't get anyone else announced before release. Unlikely.
B. The characters announced pre-release won't require any more licensing.

Now... This would rule out Shulk as a pre-release character as they would need to credit Monolith Soft.

A Rhythm Heaven character would still be possible because as far as I know, Nintendo themselves publishes and makes the games, meaning extra copyright wouldn't be needed. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

This also means that perhaps ANOTHER newcomer that would fit any of the announced licenses could be revealed as well. Something from a series already revealed, ala Ridley, Mewtwo, K.Rool etc or a series that they wouldn't cause them to put down another license such as Duck Hunt or Mach Rider. I bring this up because I expect two more newcomers before release. One in August. One in Early September.

Other things that this may point too...

1. Ness is probably secret. This could be bad for Lucas. Hope they both stay.
2. Snake is gone for sure and that hurts.

This does raise one question...

Ubisoft has confirmed content in the game...

So why no copyright?


Maybe I'm just spouting nonsense. If I am, please tell me how.

 

[Gidy]

I honestly just want veterans to return. No more newcomers. Snake was probably never even cut because they had little thought for adding him again. He was a guest character, just like Pac Man and Megaman are. But they may become staples, seeing how Sonics back.

I liked Snake, but he was a grown man from a semi realistic franchise so he didn't fit in with a bunch of cartoony video game characters. Maybe Sakurai realized this and with the addition of Pac Man and Mega Man it would just be awkward to throw him in to the mix again.

 

[TeaTwoTime]

Snake not fitting in was one of the reasons I loved his inclusion so much.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Ubisoft contributed one (maybe two) trophies. That's probably not worth a major credit in an ad. And if they were, wouldn't all the other companies represented in trophies need to be credited as well?

 

[ChikoLad]

I honestly just want veterans to return. No more newcomers. Snake was probably never even cut because they had little thought for adding him again. He was a guest character, just like Pac Man and Megaman are. But they may become staples, seeing how Sonics back.

I liked Snake, but he was a grown man from a semi realistic franchise so he didn't fit in with a bunch of cartoony video game characters. Maybe Sakurai realized this and with the addition of Pac Man and Mega Man it would just be awkward to throw him in to the mix again.

...Metal Gear Solid is about as realistic as Fire Emblem and Zelda.

Heck, I'd argue those are more realistic.

Unless you mean art style, but F-Zero also has a realistic art style, last we saw it (and Captain Falcon looks super realistic in Smash Wii U. Dat bulge...)

 

[strawhatninja]

There is going to be a Mother character since Mr. Saturn and the Franklin Badge are confirmed.

 

[Solfiner]

No Monolith Soft?

No Shulk....

As the Shulk thread pointed out earlier, Nintendo fully owns Monolithsoft so they don't have to be credited. And also, like some people have said, Bandai Namco weren't credited before the Pacman reveal in ANY trailer, even though they have heavily helped with the game.