Is Ness OP?

[Nitro_Hamster]

My friend thinks he is and he plays Marth and Falco. I dont think he is. What about you guys

 

[Red(SP)]

Your friend obviously sucks PINGAS at the game if he's losing to Ness with those two characters.

 

[BackwardCap]

Ness isn't OP, Marth and Falco are just horrible characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Ness is by no means overpowered.
His easy to gimp recovery, his short ranged aeiral attacks (other than Fair since it's disjointed.), horrible dash dance, terrible grab range, and his lack of options in some situations are some limiting factors for him.

 

[Red(SP)]

Ness isn't OP, Marth and Falco are just horrible characters.

Thanks for the reminder. I forgot Marth was low tier.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

The question is, should Ness be buffed since people generally see him as a terrible character?

 

[Bryonato]

No, Ness is not OP. Marth is actually one of his worst matchups. Tell your friend just to play Sheik or Ivy for an ezpz win

 

[Xermo]

Ness is so OP, he doesn't even place in tourneys.

 

[Nitro_Hamster]

He doesnt like his pk fire, speed strength and how he can heal

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

Ness is so OP, he doesn't even place in tourneys.

He doesn't have to place. He uses his PK powers to manipulate the rankings so that he gets the winnings, even if he doesn't enter.

He doesnt like his pk fire, speed strength and how he can heal

I'd laugh in his face and continue picking Ness to spite him until he finally puts some work into his game and figures out how to get out of Ness's PK Fire and other combos.

 

[Mono.]

tell your friend to check out my new avatar

 

[Kally Wally]

Show him this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzGFooXC-1U

then follow Yaza's advice.

 

[Deleted member]

Show him this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzGFooXC-1U

then follow Yaza's advice.

..or just go Yoshi and jump out of it.
(seriously what the hell PMBR...?)






Edit: Patchie in your avi is so kawaii.

 

[Strong Badam]

So let me get this straight... Your buddy mains Falco and thinks Ness is overpowered?

 

[Kayo]

Yeah. Ness is pretty broke. So broke that Ness mains can't even place because they don't know how to use him or place in tournament.



shots fired

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

My friend thinks he is and he plays Marth and Falco

I can't even...what?

 

[JayMan-X]

lol
Threads like these are so much fun.

 

[BelowZer0]

Marth Is low on the tier list?

 

[Pseudomaniac]

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

Marth Is low on the tier list?

casmSar

 

[BelowZer0]

Oh ok I was so confused cuz I was almost positive he was high tier

 

[Sixth-Sense]

My friend thinks he is and he plays Marth and Falco. I dont think he is. What about you guys

Your friend's right about Ness, he's so OP he loses on purpose to those characters so they can experience what it means to have a stock

but seriously though, Ness against those two? I think your friend might be using the wiimote with those two

 

[Thor]

Captain Falcon fixes all of your friend's problems.

PK fire? Jump. Captain has a fast jump. Or just run away - you're faster than the PK fire (I think). And use the link shown to learn to escape.
Speed? Falcon is faster. Easily.
Power? Falcon has forward aerial and Falcon punch. And other moves. He's stronger.
Healing stuff? Falcon has no projectiles - Ness can't heal.

Problem solved.

Or your friend could just, you know, learn how to actually play Falco [who can use his reflector and immediately jump after reflecting the PK fire]. Or Marth. Or Sheik. Or Bowser. Or Pichu (oh wait this isn't Melee). Just, you know, someone better than Ness.

And if the PK Fire is really getting to him, fine, tell him to play King Dedede - just use Jet Hammer (down+b) and walk right through the PK Fire. He also now has a partially charged Jet Hammer and a target - hopefully he knows enough to figure out the rest.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

Captain Falcon fixes all of your friend's problems.

PK fire? Jump. Captain has a fast jump. Or just run away - you're faster than the PK fire (I think). And use the link shown to learn to escape.
Speed? Falcon is faster. Easily.
Power? Falcon has forward aerial and Falcon punch. And other moves. He's stronger.
Healing stuff? Falcon has no projectiles - Ness can't heal.

Problem solved.

Or your friend could just, you know, learn how to actually play Falco [who can use his reflector and immediately jump after reflecting the PK fire]. Or Marth. Or Sheik. Or Bowser. Or Pichu (oh wait this isn't Melee). Just, you know, someone better than Ness.

And if the PK Fire is really getting to him, fine, tell him to play King Dedede - just use Jet Hammer (down+b) and walk right through the PK Fire. He also now has a partially charged Jet Hammer and a target - hopefully he knows enough to figure out the rest.

Good response. *Breaks a mug* ANOTHER!

 

[Deleted member]

i believe this thread can be summarized in one word:

"Nesstiscles."

 

[210stuna]

OP's "friend" is OP themselves.

Feel bad OP, feel bad.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Yes, Ness is like the most OP.

He beats

Falcon

and





Now please take your character specific threads to the appropriate board.

 

[UltiMario]

OP's "friend" is OP themselves.

Feel bad OP, feel bad.

But wait

Then that means the OP things Ness is OP

but if that's the case

would that not make the OP Ness himself?!?!

 

[Nitro_Hamster]

So does ness deserve a buff?

 

[Red(SP)]

So does ness deserve a buff?

May as well give him zero endlag on PKT2 since people say it sucks. (hippo)

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

How come you never just talk about things in established threads? Your previous threads could've just gone in the social and this one could go into the character specific board or something...

 

[Nitro_Hamster]

This is how we did it at the ps allstars forums, so i gues im just used to that

 

[The_NZA]

May as well give him zero endlag on PKT2 since people say it sucks. (hippo)

Still so silly that people suggest Ness has a **** recovery. But yeah, mobility buffs would be nice.

 

[Thor]

Still so silly that people suggest Ness has a **** recovery.

Well, Falco's dair properly spaced still hits Ness out of PKT2 with no damage to Falco... and I've done that multiple times (it's so darn satisfying). As do all of Marth's aerials.

Maybe your friend should learn to edgeguard. Unless you're telling me they can't even knock Ness offstage. Once. In 4 stocks [or however many you use, or in whatever time limit you play with, or in coin mode or stamina mode]. In which case I agree that he should look to Yaza's avatar before complaining.

*Breaks a mug* ANOTHER!

Not sure whether to say, "So much win," or, "Hey that's my line!" Or maybe even "You like it too?"

 

[CardiganBoy]

Your friend obviously sucks PINGAS at the game if he's losing to Ness with those two characters.

That's very dirty, man.

 

[Xinc]

It's all spacing. Marth's got to be a little bit further than Ness's range while still staying inside his own. lol

 

[KayB]

Ness complaints?? Really????

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEz_xvpDsuY&list=PLABXYNrrhtBe_Ow9AJe4XEYwrotABZ_5n

 

[Brim]

Lol, no Ness is not.
On the relation to Earthbound series characters- I think Lucas may be slightly OP, he's really fast now, and couple that with projectiles, great jumps, and a not so easy to gimp recovery... Ooh I think it's another Fox, y'know aside from amazing jump distance.

 

[Thor]

not so easy to gimp recovery... Ooh I think it's another Fox

Wait, Fox has a not so easy to gimp recovery?...I always figured he was easier than most... not Roy-gimpable but still... like, Fox isn't that hard to gimp. Jigglypuff? Hard to gimp. Peach? At least somewhat annoying to gimp. Samus? Tricky to gimp. Pikachu? Yeah, not easy to gimp. Fox? Uh... no.

Ness is not OP. Ness is good against n00bs who can't deal with PK fire spam or avoid his PK Flash "gimps" (they usually rocket the opponent to an upper blastline actually), but he's not OP.

And that URL is a fantastic example of what your friend's Marth could do to a Ness, if he, ya know, got better.