Is Ness OP?

[Kati]

Learn to sdi and buffer rolls in order to minimize pk fire damage.

 

[MLGF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEz_xvpDsuY&list=PLABXYNrrhtBe_Ow9AJe4XEYwrotABZ_5n

Ness broken, please nerf.

 

[The_NZA]

Wait, Fox has a not so easy to gimp recovery?...I always figured he was easier than most... not Roy-gimpable but still... like, Fox isn't that hard to gimp. Jigglypuff? Hard to gimp. Peach? At least somewhat annoying to gimp. Samus? Tricky to gimp. Pikachu? Yeah, not easy to gimp. Fox? Uh... no.

Ness is not OP. Ness is good against n00bs who can't deal with PK fire spam or avoid his PK Flash "gimps" (they usually rocket the opponent to an upper blastline actually), but he's not OP.

And that URL is a fantastic example of what your friend's Marth could do to a Ness, if he, ya know, got better.

The only reason Fox "isn't hard to gimp" is because everyone has trained to know how to deal with him. He's no Jiggs, but a mostly lag free up b that can go any angle and has amazing distance with protection around him while he's charging, and a near instant good priority forward b mix up, and a wall jump, and a shine stall all constitute a "good" recovery.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

Welp, all these posts made me stop putting work into my Ness. At least my Lucas won't be affected since everyone agrees he's awesome.

Should we start campaigning for a buffed Ness in light of all this instead?

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

Welp, all these posts made me stop putting work into my Ness. At least my Lucas won't be affected since everyone agrees he's awesome.

Should we start campaigning for a buffed Ness in light of all this instead?

I think he definitely needs at least a little buff.
I'm not sure there would be a good way to reasonably buff him, though.
Should he be given the GnW steroids on all his moves?

 

[Xermo]

I think he definitely needs at least a little buff.
I'm not sure there would be a good way to reasonably buff him, though.
Should he be given the GnW steroids on all his moves?

Magicant Ness stats is clearly the only choice.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Replace all aerials with Fair

And replace PK Pulse with PK Starstorm, seems reasonable.

 

[Nazo]

replace PK Pulse with PK Starstorm

You mean PK Flash?

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

You mean PK Flash?

Sounds dirty.

 

[Saito]

Or Pichu

Soon.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

How about Ganondorf power instead? Since G dubs is actually stronger and that power is pretty frightening on someone without a random side special.

 

[The_NZA]

There are several topics already in the Ness boards with good ideas on how to buff him intelligently that would make him a better character to use and fight against.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

Still, let's hope PMBR actually does listen this time.