Is it bad having Melee forbidden 5 back?

[Kink-Link5]

Pichu's hitboxes covered his body more advantageously than Pikachu's. Despite Pichu's uair and u-tilt being shorter, their range relative to his body provied a different coverage than Pikachu's equivalent moves.

 

[Phaiyte]

Everyone keeps using that "clone" word. I don't think it means what they think it means.

 

[Squartle]

Everyone keeps using that "clone" word. I don't think it means what they think it means.

In the Smash community, it isn't used like the dictionary definition, and you know it.

 

[Vigilante]

Now it comes down to Pichu. As far as I know, Pikachu inherited nothing from Pichu. Pichu actually had an interesting concept. Trading power for self-damage infliction is pretty cool, though was executed poorly. I am fully confident the PMBR could find a way to bring that idea back and give Pichu a revamped sense of style and play, though I'm in no rush to see it.

Actually, Quick attack cancel is very reminiscent from the landing lag of Pichu's QAtk.

 

[Phaiyte]

In the Smash community, it isn't used like the dictionary definition, and you know it.

There's only one actual definition to that word. Even so, it's still pretty stupid and ignorant in any context revolving around this game.

 

[Generically Epic]

But seriously, the doctor mario skin is the perfect compromise to doctor mario, and this is coming from a doctor mario main.
Tink and Yink are fused to the point where any other properties from yink would be unwarrented. The declone of yink plays like how yink should have played in the first place. However, an official costume referencing young link (like tink in yinks clothes and carrying some yink props) would make a lot of people happy. Good compromise.
Pichu- should be replaced by plusle and minium and given a costume that looks like pichu, like black tails, pink cheeks, blue goggles, and a green cape, maybe make one a shiny pichu or raichu color scheme, since the plusle and minium were part of the forbidden seven and pichu must be remade anyways. Why not go with something a little new, but with heavy influence with something old?

Also, dixie and tetra/shiek ftw.

 

[Raccoon Chuck]

I have two answers to this question, as to not only what is asked, but the variable of the current situation's effect as well.
No, it is not "bad" to have the forbidden five back. I would want nothing more for those characters but to see them built to the point of them being built upon their individual trait, through a moveset that allows such tools to be used effectively.

However, as of now, we only have five slots worth of module files to work with. We could see it used for one of the forgotten, but that could very well hinge on the decision to add new characters as opposed to putting work into both paying respect to their playstyle in a environment where they have already been subtly introduced, but straying just enough to make them fresh.

 

[Generically Epic]

I have two answers to this question, as to not only what is asked, but the variable of the current situation's effect as well.
No, it is not "bad" to have the forbidden five back. I would want nothing more for those characters but to see them built to the point of them being built upon their individual trait, through a moveset that allows such tools to be used effectively.

However, as of now, we only have five slots worth of module files to work with. We could see it used for one of the forgotten, but that could very well hinge on the decision to add new characters as opposed to putting work into both paying respect to their playstyle in a environment where they have already been subtly introduced, but straying just enough to make them fresh.

i say do plusle and minum to replace and be sort of fused with pichu, get some of that forbidden 7, and give the plusle and minium a very obvious pichu inspired and shiny pichu recolor ( (or raichu/shiny raichu recolor)). Maybe some taunts, attack properties, and animations for good measure.
Give Tink a Yink texture/alt. and Now you got yourself the fallen 5 covered AND a bit of the forbidden 7 covered.

 

[Pkjoan]

That actually could work.

Have part of the fallen 5 ( Roy, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario)
Have part of the forbidden 7 (Roy, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Plusle and Minun)

Nos about Dixie, Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik...

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

Plusle & Minun = Infinitely more interesting choice than Pichu. Self damage could stay, as well. Pichu is still interesting though, but I would prefer Plusle & Minun due to the creativity that could go behind them.

Dr. Mario = Already a skin. Doesn't need to take up another slot, which could go to someone that would gather much more interest than the Doc.

Young Link = Could be a thing, but I don't think it would be necessary. Toon Link is fine as is.


Since Project M is a mod, and they can practically add anybody (from the game) that they want to...I would much rather the PMBR focus on characters that would not only have a distinguishable niche that none of the other 41 characters could fill, but would also gather much more attention than said clone characters. That being said, I believe that while Doc/Pichu/Y. Link do have their fans, I feel as though they should be opted out in favor of something better.

For example, I feel as though Toon Zelda would be much more interesting than Young Link. A small Zelda could open up a new and interesting niche that neither Zelda nor the PK Bros (Ness/Lucas) currently have...while Young Link would be more-or-less just an alternate version of Toon Link.

 

[Generically Epic]

That actually could work.

Have part of the fallen 5 ( Roy, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario)
Have part of the forbidden 7 (Roy, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Plusle and Minun)

Nos about Dixie, Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik...

putting toon Zelda and tetra on Zelda sheik by use of taunt (samus ice beam) and changing textures (swuirtle) was a hilarious idea. That might be too much though... she'd be like pkmn trainer.

 

[Generically Epic]

Plusle & Minun = Infinitely more interesting choice than Pichu. Self damage could stay, as well. Pichu is still interesting though, but I would prefer Plusle & Minun due to the creativity that could go behind them.

Dr. Mario = Already a skin. Doesn't need to take up another slot, which could go to someone that would gather much more interest than the Doc.

Young Link = Could be a thing, but I don't think it would be necessary. Toon Link is fine as is.


Since Project M is a mod, and they can practically add anybody (from the game) that they want to...I would much rather the PMBR focus on characters that would not only have a distinguishable niche that none of the other 41 characters could fill, but would also gather much more attention than said clone characters. That being said, I believe that while Doc/Pichu/Y. Link do have their fans, I feel as though they should be opted out in favor of something better.

For example, I feel as though Toon Zelda would be much more interesting than Young Link. A small Zelda could open up a new and interesting niche that neither Zelda nor the PK Bros (Ness/Lucas) currently have...while Young Link would be more-or-less just an alternate version of Toon Link.

I agree with plusle and minum if there is a pichu based recolor.
doc m, yeah agreed, he's prefect in 3.0.
all toon link needs is a skin, texture, recolor, alternative outfit, or cosplay of him as young link. TINK with kikori tunic and sword, and a deku shield would be good enough.
I'm all for toon zelda/tetra, copy em from sheik and zelda.

 

[Lethalx]

I hope there isn't no more pokemon coming back, there's too many >_> Pichu is garbage if you want him get a texture from brawlvault an put it over pikachu lmbo.

As for Doc Mario and Ylink there already in, basically just combined with Mario/Toonlink and imo i wouldn't want to see the same character.

Roy is different, even though he was sloppy unfinished version of Marth like Ganondorf mirroring C .Falcon there different characters and I'm liking how Pmbr made them there own person with there own style/gimmicks to work with to distinguish them from there old copied style in melee.

Pichu, Doc. M, Ylink are almost just the same as Mario, Pikachu an Toonlink and i would like to see the rest of the clone slots for newer characters in the future, plus there's already a developed meta game for Mario, TL, if they brought them back they would have to back track and i don't think Pmbr would do something that's already established.

 

[Raccoon Chuck]

Yeah gentlemen, I say we continue our search for a Pichu replacement that isn't a Poke'mon, (enough reps.)
Don't worry, self damaging characters aren't totally uncommon.

(Hector wields the Devil's Axe, the Devil's Axe can hurt Hector, therefore Hector=Pichu)

 

[Generically Epic]

I hope there isn't no more pokemon coming back, there's too many >_> Pichu is garbage if you want him get a texture from brawlvault an put it over pikachu lmbo.

As for Doc Mario and Ylink there already in, basically just combined with Mario/Toonlink and imo i wouldn't want to see the same character.

Roy is different, even though he was sloppy unfinished version of Marth like Ganondorf mirroring C .Falcon there different characters and I'm liking how Pmbr made them there own person with there own style/gimmicks to work with to distinguish them from there old copied style in melee.

Pichu, Doc. M, Ylink are almost just the same as Mario, Pikachu an Toonlink and i would like to see the rest of the clone slots for newer characters in the future, plus there's already a developed meta game for Mario, TL, if they brought them back they would have to back track and i don't think Pmbr would do something that's already established.

as long as they have at least a recolor, texture, or alt as their other forms...