Affinity
Smash Hero
I'm surprised this isn't locked yet.
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Infinite Dimensional Cape unban proposal
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metaXzero
Smash Champion
No one has supplied a proper argument against my proposal. Not even the SBR.
Though they could do like my Tactical Discussion thread and close it silently (completely ignoring the OP) and Buzz just tell me in a PM "its unfair"....
Affinity
Smash Hero
InfernoRage did.
"There is a massive misconception that the IDC was banned because of Stalling when the actual reason given was that the IDC doesn't just stall, it can be used to essentially reset the match. IS Meta Knight getting zoned by that pesky Marth? No problem, he just need to IDC and Marth is forced to go to the other side of the stage and reset to neutral so Meta will "uncloak". No character should have the ability to get himself out of any situation and reset the match. It's just silly and broken at the same time."
What do you consider to be a proper argument?
metaXzero
Smash Champion
On this page is Overswarm's post on the subject of IDC (from ruleset discussion)
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187736&page=3
In short: inabillity to tell if MK is stalling. So much for InfernoRage1's post.
The Real Inferno
Smash Hero
1. Overswarm is not the entire SBR.
2. He was not the only person to offer an explenation to the ban.
2. He was not the only person to offer an explenation to the ban.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
It's his post on what the SBR thinks of IDC, not himself. And bring these other explanations then....
Affinity
Smash Hero
*sigh*... I really hope you're kidding...
Ok, think about it this way:
Forget about the SBR. Forget about any post that was made explaining why it should or shouldn't be banned. Just think about this independently and logically.
Regardless of what anyone has/hasn't said, the IDC allows MK to get out of any situation where he's disadvantaged and make the match neutral.
This is what makes it broken and why the IDC will always be banned.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
In practice, it's not proven broken. We have no results or vids. shadowlink3 (who discovered IDC and tried to hide how to do it) didn't even get to win himself a few tournys in the time before its ban.
If its proven IN PRACTICE that IDC is broken all-around, then of course a ban is a must. But the fact is it hasn't...
Deoxys
Smash Lord
It doesn't come out on frame 1 though, so it's not ridiculously obscenely retardedly insanely broken. That's why I would let CF try it if he had it lul.
Allowing IDC will make EVERY matchup besides the ditto in MK's favor, which would require MK to be banned.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
Aren't all of MKs match-ups already in his favor (at worst 55:45)?
In theory, yes. In practice, unproven.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
......and yet again, no one can bring a point against my proposal...
g2g4l
Smash Apprentice
They have all made points. But -Affinity-pretty much summed it up.Why cant you see that the reason it is banned is because it makes the balanced game unbalanced. This game is based off Risk-rewards and the IDC makes it to where MK can take rewards and stop the risk.
In practice.....we don't need a vid of someone attacking and then using IDC to escape we know it can happen because of what IDC is its simple this move makes it to where MK is invincible and invulnerable for as long as he want. He can use it as many times as he wants for a long as he wants. There is no time limit he takes no damage from it, its not a random location where he appears it is just him completely untouched.
Simple it makes the game broken in MK's favor. there is no reason to put certain limits on it so he can use it under restrictions we just need to bar it compleatly
In practice.....we don't need a vid of someone attacking and then using IDC to escape we know it can happen because of what IDC is its simple this move makes it to where MK is invincible and invulnerable for as long as he want. He can use it as many times as he wants for a long as he wants. There is no time limit he takes no damage from it, its not a random location where he appears it is just him completely untouched.
Simple it makes the game broken in MK's favor. there is no reason to put certain limits on it so he can use it under restrictions we just need to bar it compleatly
Youko
Podcasting Pro
People are trying to explain it to you and yet you're shrugging it off. Besides, one general proposal is not going to change the minds of something that was diligently discussed by the Smash Back Room.
Regardless, stalling doesn't involve just letting the time run out. The fact that you can't do anything while Meta Knight is invisible gives the character an unintended, broken advantage.
Regardless, stalling doesn't involve just letting the time run out. The fact that you can't do anything while Meta Knight is invisible gives the character an unintended, broken advantage.
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