In between smash "noobs" and smash "pros"

[Maripu]

(I'm not sure what compelled me to return to SWF. Probably lack of a better smash-related board. Ah well, fine with me.)

As probably the majority of players on this site are either competitive or "pro", I thought it would be interesting to understand things from the viewpoint of someone who plays Smash very well.

Personally, I'm pretty bad at Smash. I can beat my friends, but my friends are just plain horrible. Whenever I face someone online they hit me on one of the two ends of the spectrum: I either get totally mutilated or I rack up points faster than I can count them. This is especially true on "With Anyone"--- though there are a lot more of the "noobs" there it seems.

However, Wi-Fi is generally a bad test. I have 2 questions for anyone who considers himself or herself to be great at competitive Smash:
1) Do you believe that there is an "in between" state between competitive smash and just plain sucking?
2) Do you think that anyone who is unable to perform a lot of the complicated Smash techniques is a "noob"?

I'm sure the answer will be overwhelmingly no, but I'd like to hear everyone's individualized responses too.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm not a competitive player, but I do support them.

Now to respond to your questions:
1. Of course. Just like there's more than just black and white, the pros and newbs (not noobs) are on different ends of a spectrum.
2. From what I can tell, no. If you have a grasp of the fundamentals, you can do fine, but no promises there.

 

[Comeback Kid]

All vanilla Brawl players must play the game like Sakurai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiCcOJ7gfyo&NR=1

This is why I have decided to pick up Brawl+

 

[Holty]

1) I would've thought this is the competitive players that always tend to place average - low in tournaments?
2) Pretty much the same as Kuma's awnser.

 

[pk_power]

I understand what you meen. im think im the same way.

1) yes there is totally an in between.

2)no. noobs are the ones that run away or are just plain awful.

 

[McSquigglez]

1) I say there is a whole different levels.
1. Fun Player - Someone who picked up the game just to play with friends once a week.
2. Novice - Someone who has the game at home , doesn't do well against others, but can beat the computer
3. Rookie - Someone who can beat their friends and the CPU.
4. Novice - Someone who can beat their friends and own the CPU.
5. Intermediate - Someone who can own their friends and CPU.

That's just the offline version.

 

[★Chaos★]

I understand what you meen. im think im the same way.

1) yes there is totally an in between.

2)no. noobs are the ones that run away or are just plain awful.

1) I say there is a whole different levels.
1. Fun Player - Someone who picked up the game just to play with friends once a week.
2. Novice - Someone who has the game at home , doesn't do well against others, but can beat the computer
3. Rookie - Someone who can beat their friends and the CPU.
4. Novice - Someone who can beat their friends and own the CPU.
5. Intermediate - Someone who can own their friends and CPU.

That's just the offline version.

these too i agree with

 

[orange/xd]

1) I say there is a whole different levels.
1. Fun Player - Someone who picked up the game just to play with friends once a week.
2. Novice - Someone who has the game at home , doesn't do well against others, but can beat the computer
3. Rookie - Someone who can beat their friends and the CPU.
4. Novice - Someone who can beat their friends and own the CPU.
5. Intermediate - Someone who can own their friends and CPU.

That's just the offline version.

Playing the CPU or non-competitive friends that could be awful takes skill?

*facepalm*

 

[professor mgw]

Signs

1] Noob: someone who is not knowledgeable about smash
Has a hard time fighting a CPU
Find it hard to win.
Loses 3/4 or all all of their matches against someone who's above a noob.
Doesn't if so rarely uses AT's

2] Novice player: A player most likely who's been on AiB or SWF from 2-3 months.
Have a bit of a hard time beating LV.9 CPU, and loses 1/4 of the time against them, maybe even 2/4 of the time.
Wins 1/4 or rarely 2/4 of the time to someone who is better than them
May or may not use AT's.
Loses outweigh the wins by a little bit most likely.

3] Novice+
Pretty good player
Can present a challange to novice and semi-pro (not that much), dominates noobs
With anyone online fighting isn't realy hard.
Pretty knowledgeable about smash
Wins 2/4 or a little more, little less matches than 2/4


4] Semi-pro

A pretty competitive player
Very good
Dominates noobs, ***** novice and + players.
Very knowledgeable in smash
Uses their character to a good potiental
Wins 2/4- 3/4

5] Semi-pro+
Pretty much same description as semi-pro
Wins from 3/4-all matches against semi-pros and lower.
Pretty close to becoming a pro

6] Pro

I think its pretty obvious