Ike's Palette Swaps

[Shun_one]

I'm leaning toward him getting completely new palette swaps as opposed to having his old ones adapted to his new design. While you could make them work I'm sure, I'd rather see new ones entirely.

I'm curious as to what approach they'll use for a blue team palette considering his default tunic is no longer blue.

 

[Hong]

I'm curious as to what approach they'll use for a blue team palette considering his default tunic is no longer blue.

Could just be his default palette, like a red Samus or green Link.

Just the same, since we are no longer using team colours in team games in favour of outlines, it is entirely possible that we might not have those colours for every character if at all.

 

[Aninymouse]

Could just be his default palette, like a red Samus or green Link.

Just the same, since we are no longer using team colours in team games in favour of outlines, it is entirely possible that we might not have those colours for every character if at all.

Wow. WOW. I just realized this. Wow, that is nuts.

At least alternate colors are confirmed for the Wii U version. Maybe they're not in the 3DS version, due to the tiny (by comparison) screen? Not everybody has an XL. Like, if you had a FFA and you had green Mario and Luigi on the same team, it might get confusing at times. This would help the 3DS people out a lot.

But yeah, most of the alt. colors from brawl, for most characters, were pretty good. I guess if some character lacked a green color, it wouldn't be the end of the world, with the new colored name tags / outlines.

 

[Shun_one]

@ Hong - My mind identifies his default color as...brown or something. I'd think the red cape could lead to a level of color blind-ness during team battles (despite the whole pick whatever color you want thing). If his cape was blue as well I'd see it more as a blue costume but the red cape + blue armor just has my mind thinking it's a brown color.

While it's possible not every character will have a red/green/blue color, I don't think that'll be the case. If you're doing palette swaps, Red, Green, and Blue are often among the first colors you'd think of making alternate colors for. And while the addition of "choose any color in teams" is now a thing, I'm not sure they'd completely remove the need for specific palette swaps.

I may or may not actually know something regarding palette's in this game

@ Aninymouse
Smash 3DS has alternate palette's. The way Sakurai worded it essentially confirms them. "Now you can choose any color during team battles!" (I am paraphrasing) essentially means you can pick your favorite palette even if you're playing teams. And also, if there were no alternate palettes, Ditto's would be very interesting...

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fun fact: "Ike was created after Hector, he was called Paris because Paris was the younger Brother of Hector in the story of troy, so you can call Ike Hector younger brother".

 

[Commander]

Fun fact: "Ike was created after Hector, he was called Paris because Paris was the younger Brother of Hector in the story of troy, so you can call Ike Hector younger brother".

Fun fact: Hector was Troy's strongest warrior, Paris was a useless piece of garbage, and Priam, their father, was a weak ruler who listened to fortune tellers for advice instead of his son Hector who actually knew what fighting a war is like. Also the Greeks were horrible people.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fun fact: Hector was Troy's strongest warrior, Paris was a useless piece of garbage, and Priam, their father, was a weak ruler who listened to fortune tellers for advice instead of his son Hector who actually knew what fighting a war is like. Also the Greeks were horrible people.

And what's your point ?

 

[DraginHikari]

And what's your point ?

I think it's just that it shows that developers will take names from references or stories without taking the original context of those references into account really. Not that I see that as a particular problem, but that what's there.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Paris was an archer.

I don't get IS sometimes.

 

[Hong]

To be fair, they probably chose these names because they wanted to base it on something that sounds exotic to a native Japanese audience. They seem to go through one inspiration to the next (like how they exhausted Norse mythology between FE4-8) and just needed something new. I don't think they are trying to be build anything around source that not all players will actively be aware of, and they shouldn't have to.

Certainly not uncommon among Japanese developers, particularly those that specialize in RPGs, like Square Enix and the Tales studio of Bandai Namco. You can draw loose ties for a lot of their selected names.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

To be fair, they probably chose these names because they wanted to base it on something that sounds exotic to a native Japanese audience. They seem to go through one inspiration to the next (like how they exhausted Norse mythology between FE4-8) and just needed something new. I don't think they are trying to be build anything around source that not all players will actively be aware of, and they shouldn't have to.

Certainly not uncommon among Japanese developers, particularly those that specialize in RPGs, like Square Enix and the Tales studio of Bandai Namco. You can draw loose ties for a lot of their selected names.

Norse mythology? I thought the epic of Roland was like, English.

I am really rusty on my mythology. Blame a semester (or a lifetime rather ...) of avid Shakespeare.

 

[Hong]

Norse mythology? I thought the epic of Roland was like, English.

I am really rusty on my mythology. Blame a semester (or a lifetime rather ...) of avid Shakespeare.

You wouldn't be wrong since they took some inspiration from there as well.

Overall I would say they took just a bit more from Norse Mythology due to the weapons. Most of the divine weapons that are now reoccurring throughout the series took their names from Norse Mythology and have been reused since.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

You wouldn't be wrong since they took some inspiration from there as well.

Overall I would say they took just a bit more from Norse Mythology due to the weapons. Most of the divine weapons that are now reoccurring throughout the series took their names from Norse Mythology and have been reused since.

It's a crying shame FE6 was poorly balanced because it does have some very epic elements to it. The return of the dragons, collecting divine weapons with awesome names to slay impossibly strong foes, goddamned DURANDAL ... Ah. There's a nice patch that lets you promote Roy at chapter 16 though, and that change alone makes the game much better. Shows you how little is need to screw up good gameplay.

 

[Commander]

You wouldn't be wrong since they took some inspiration from there as well.

Overall I would say they took just a bit more from Norse Mythology due to the weapons. Most of the divine weapons that are now reoccurring throughout the series took their names from Norse Mythology and have been reused since.

Ragnell, Ettard, and Gawain are all names from Arthurian legend. Both Ragnell and Ettard were Gawain's lovers. Alondite is just the sword Lancelot used.

 

[SmashBroski]

If alternate costumes are truly a reality, I'd like to see this for Ike:

 

[NWRL]

I want to see a nod to Guts in palette form.

 

[Sol0ke]

I want to see a nod to the Black Knight

 

[Aninymouse]

I want to see a nod to the Black Knight

A black Ike with a red cape would be very imposing! Sign me up.

 

[Hong]

A black Ike with a red cape would be very imposing! Sign me up.

Is that all there is?

No challenge? No... resistance?

 

[Aninymouse]

Is that all there is?

No challenge? No... resistance?

It makes me angry just to READ IT

 

[FalKoopa]

if we get no one from awakening
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it could maybe please some people

God no. That design is awful, except for the sword-arm.

I don't know who the artist for this design is, but there is just so much wrong, here. The scrawny body, the full-body armor, the unconvincing pose. It could just be a bad angle, but even Ragnell looks like crap.

It was the same artist who did the artworks for FE6 and FE7. I wonder what happened to him...

 

[True Blue Warrior]

if we get no one from awakening
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it could maybe please some people

Skinny pirate Ike? Arrrrrrrrrrrrr you kidding me?

 

[Hong]

God no. That design is awful, except for the sword-arm.


It was the same artist who did the artworks for FE6 and FE7. I wonder what happened to him...

He was amputated after a horrible accident and now has a pencil arm.

How can you all be so insensitive.

 

[Sahfarry]

I always thought that they can give us his Path of Radiance appearance, it was the default model in Brawl after all. Perhaps throw in the Lord attire as well.

Maybe having his Vanguard class outfit as well

Not much of a FE expert, but I like the Vangard outfit, and I love the Brawl outfit. Lord could be a palette swap for PoR/Brawl Ike.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think it'd be neat having Ike's Brawl/POR design as an alternate, and then additionally have Ike's POR Lord outfit and Ike's RD Vanguard outfit as recolors (with a couple of additional pieces of armor).

Ike's Awakening DLC artwork can just go die in a hole.

 

[Beatness]

Other than that, "Shirtless Ike"?

Yes please!

But I think it's likely that Chrom will be an alt for Ike and Lucina for Marth. Since having either as full on characters might make for a bit too many blue haired swordsmen.

 

[Aninymouse]

Yes please!

But I think it's likely that Chrom will be an alt for Ike and Lucina for Marth. Since having either as full on characters might make for a bit too many blue haired swordsmen.

Lucina is pushing it. I like Lucina a lot. But I do see how Marth and Lucina make sense for sharing a character slot, somewhat. Can't say I'm crazy about the idea. I'd rather she get her own spotlight, but..

Chrom's fighting style has literally nothing in common with Ike's, if you played the games. I just started playing Awakening last month, and after doing so, wow, the "give Chrom Ike's moveset" people just look all the more... uninformed. Uninitiated. I know that's not exactly what you're saying, here, but the actual result is very similar and equally unsatisfying... especially to Chrom fans, I would think.

 

[Oops!]

I wholly support Shirtless and Vanguard Ike and Priam as alts.

 

[Kokusho]

I think Priam is possible as an alt...

not bad ! Of course it would fit perfectly
http://static.tumblr.com/de08473257...bmwlgv7/tumblr_static_tumblr_static_priam.png

 

[GloriousV]

I though I tried to recreate the previous color palettes on the new design and see what they could look like. Here is what I ended up with. The last costume I changed it to a costume that resembles Ike's Lord attire in Path of Radiance.

This picture might become obsolete if Ike is playable on the demo, but if he is not then its something nice to look at until the game comes out.

 

[Banjodorf]

That...that green color is ridiculously sick. Whoa.

 

[PyroTakun]

I though I tried to recreate the previous color palettes on the new design and see what they could look like. Here is what I ended up with. The last costume I changed it to a costume that resembles Ike's Lord attire in Path of Radiance.

This picture might become obsolete if Ike is playable on the demo, but if he is not then its something nice to look at until the game comes out.

Purple/ Pimp Ike FTW!

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I like the blue one.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I want to see a nod to the Black Knight

Same, but would like one for Zelgius to! Sure, they are the same person, but it would just fit really well.

 

[Hong]

In any event, a red one and a green one is all but guaranteed. Not because they are standard team colours, but they represent the colours of hostile and neutral enemies in Fire Emblem respectively. Suppose a bluer Ike will show up too, for the very same reason.

 

[Another K-2L Survivor]

I though I tried to recreate the previous color palettes on the new design and see what they could look like. Here is what I ended up with. The last costume I changed it to a costume that resembles Ike's Lord attire in Path of Radiance.

This picture might become obsolete if Ike is playable on the demo, but if he is not then its something nice to look at until the game comes out.

Helllloooo Top Right. I'll scarcely be leaving that palate swap.

 

[tadget]

I'd love to see the Black Knight as an alt costume for Ike.
Maybe they'd have to slim it down a little, but it would still be awesome!
The Black Knight is just such a badass. They even share the same model for the sword anyway.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Suggestions so far:

Priam: *hurls*
Chrom: I ... Well ... I guess you played Awakening with the animations off, then.
Black Knight: Yeah, let's dress Ike up as his father's killer. That ain't weird ...
Greil: Best suggestion here, honestly.
Vanguard: The right answer.

 

[Delzethin]

Vanguard Ike, of course.

 

[Oops!]

@ Thane of Blue Flames just finished the thread. No need for any further speculation