If items were in tournements it should be like this (Actually read the thread)

[yoshi_fan]

Also note, these rules will never happen, therefore destroying your dream, and thus, your thread.

If you have these powers for reading the future... why aren't you the number 1 in smash and not M2K? Just asking

 

[Superninjabreadman]

If Items are in Brawl tournies, I'd have a Ken Trophy.

 

[Hippochinfat]

title reminds me of that OJ simpson TV special that was gonna come out.

 

[joeysmash]

sniff... you can ban all items but my final smash ball

GIGA BOWSER FTW B****

 

[Speedsk8er]

Beam Sword - Banned. Too much knockback when thrown.

Star Rod - In.

I didn't read the entire thread yet but... what? I could have sworn the Star rod had more thrown knockback than the Beam sword. AND it sends you at a worse trajectory. Why ban Beam sword and not Star-rod?


*finishes reading thread*

 

[XeroHarsh]

If you have these powers for reading the future... why aren't you the number 1 in smash and not M2K? Just asking

Flattery will get you no where, I'm just saying that the way brawl is looking right now, this will not happen.

 

[flyinfilipino]

This is all hypothetical, you know....

 

[XeroHarsh]

This is all hypothetical, you know....

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I knew that when I read the title for this thread.

 

[flyinfilipino]

Also note, these rules will never happen, therefore destroying your dream, and thus, your thread.

Just wondering.

 

[XeroHarsh]

Just wondering.

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm a smart Pinoy.

 

[flyinfilipino]

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm a smart Pinoy.

*Off-topic sorry* Are you really?

 

[Psydon]

I didn't read the entire thread yet but... what? I could have sworn the Star rod had more thrown knockback than the Beam sword. AND it sends you at a worse trajectory. Why ban Beam sword and not Star-rod?


*finishes reading thread*

I'll be honest, I didn't know about the Star Rod's throw knockback, because given its ranged attack I've never thrown it. If what you're saying is true, I change my mind; I think the Star Rod ought to be banned as well.

 

[XeroHarsh]

*Off-topic sorry* Are you really?

Yes, Yes I am.

 

[The Hypnotist]

I guess it's just because it's Peach. No matter what Peach pulls out, you're already anticipating it. A bomb with anyone else is much more of a slap in the face.



"All items that would normally be on are on" can be interpreted two ways.

1. All items are on. Only two items total are banned. Obviously the Starman would be banned, and then the next choice would be virtually impossible. Do you get rid of Hearts but keep Hammers (and the Bumper and MSB)? Nobody would accept a system like that.

2. All items that have not been universally banned are on. Amongst the remaining items, two will be banned. This is a more fair system, despite the fact that most items players would want to ban would be already banned.

The second one.

Also note, these rules will never happen, therefore destroying your dream, and thus, your thread.

It's a concept.

I didn't read the entire thread yet but... what? I could have sworn the Star rod had more thrown knockback than the Beam sword. AND it sends you at a worse trajectory. Why ban Beam sword and not Star-rod?


*finishes reading thread*

New beamsworad has crazy range.

 

[Arch-Angel]

If items were used in tournaments, even limited, skill wouldnt be involved as mutch. If you are facing an oponent, and your at 100% and he is at 30%, you have a chance for a good comeback, until he throws a bomb at you, or stops your recovery with a ray gun. I bet i could beat ken, if the right item came along at the right time. No. Items are ok for some fun screwing around play but not in tournaments. It tarnishis skill in many instances.

 

[DraginHikari]

Hmm... normally I'd give a my semi-neutral viewpoint but I think everything I would say has already been stated. Only thing to really say is to see what happens. As it stands the control on the items hasn't been clarified enough to draw a conclusion from, but from what I've seen the biggest issue about this is some people unwilling to change with what there comfortable with when it comes to tournment structure. Whether this can be impended or not is more of one of those things left to be seen.

If I recall right other competitve games use items, mostly first person shooters come to mind but that may be a bad example, so I wouldn't necessarily say it's not a possiblilty.

 

[tutata]

Dude your from the bay and you wanna put items in toruneys? I say no items might allow the player to win by luck. Like lets say u could not reach the opponent and 1 item spans, lets say a green shell and u edge guard the oponent for the kill, just stupid. You are the bay and you are making us look bad with theads like this. IF u wanna play for fun play for fun.

 

[OrlanduEX]

@ Hikari, I can see what your saying about not being willing to change the tournaments, but competitive players are all too familiar with the random chance that items present and the way they can throw otherwise highly competitive and fair matches.
Items WERE used in tournaments at one time (mainly in the Midwest, I believe). Their use was discontinued due to observations drawn by the competitive community after actually observing it in action.
Based on what we've already seen in videos and the Dojo (or both), items act too much like they do in Melee for competitive players to even reconsider their inclusion into competitive play.
The recent debate seems to be whether Final Smashes are appropriate for competitive play or at least whether they deserve their own format.

 

[metalreflectslime]

I like The Hypnotist's ideas because there is absolutely no luck involved under his conditions since items have predetermined spawn locations. The star rod should be banned due to its trajectory.

 

[jonkeponke]

i think the main benefit of this is that it might attract more people to play in brawl tournaments, hence making them more popular/well-known. whether or not that actually happens who knows.

 

[True Fool]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the entire competitive scene would start using items, but I could see item tourneys popping up if certain standards are met.

 

[orintemple]

Items as a cou8nterpick is a cool idea and I think there will be tournies early on that will have this but after a while things will probably end up the way they are in Melee.

Also, items were NOT banned in Melee just because of exploding crates people. Also the random spawn is a big factor.

 

[Greenpoe]

Well, if the item switch has the same format as it did in Melee, where you have one blanket switch for probability (rather than being able to set low or very low, etc. for each item), then you might want food on. At least, that's what I did in Melee. Very low was still too many items for me, so I turned on some items that were not potent (food, Mr.Saturn, Parasol->If you can use that better than you can use your characters smashes->More power to you).

 

[okiyama]

Invisible Cloak... overpowered? hah! Seriously anyone can see you clearly.

This would be good and all but the problem sare that items aren't going to spawn in specific places and you aren't going to be able to pick frequency of specific items. Without those 2 key factors it is still luck.

Sorry no items for me thanks.

 

[Greenpoe]

Invisible Cloak... overpowered? hah! Seriously anyone can see you clearly.

This would be good and all but the problem sare that items aren't going to spawn in specific places and you aren't going to be able to pick frequency of specific items. Without those 2 key factors it is still luck.

Sorry no items for me thanks.

You don't take percent damage while cloaked.