Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
it's possible that it was changed in a newer version (I hadn't actually checked, I just remember from when I looked the last time I updated my copy of Brawl+)
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Idea: Seperate versions of Brawl+ ~ Home and Tournament Editions
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BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Hopefully. I can't remember either. But personally I think it's dumb idea to replace a stage you can just not pick if you don't want to play it.
Just take out the stage Freeze codes, then, that's all I need.
Dan_X
Smash Lord
I'm sorry, but this thread is utterly pointless. To the OP, why should Brawl+.net provide a slew of 'options' as you suggest, as this would in turn HURT the project. To keep this project going strong unity is a must. If everyone is playing a different Brawl+ then the project has lost its unity. I don't understand how you don't see this.
To be quite honest, most everyone playing Brawl+ is more than happy with it as is, and are only looking forward to future iterations. This game is geared towards the tourney scene, sure, but that doesn't in any way impact friendlies. Honestly, I can't see the fun of using items-- even in ffas and frienlies as they *******ize the game. So the fact that a few items don't work precisely right is rather moot in my opinion, and I believe many people share that view.
The thing is, most people who are playing Brawl+ (even for the first time) don't care to change anything as everything is perfectly fine as is. They are generally very pleased with their experince with Brawl+... as is.
If the individual, for whatever reason, is not satisified with Brawl+ then to bad. It's not like they don't have full power over what THEY play! They can easily make a GCT with their desired codes. Heck, they can easily edit the Brawl+ GCT if they want, removing whatever they don't want on. It's not difficult, there's no excuse. If the individual was savvy enough to have hacked his or her Wii there's absolutely no escuse as to why said individual couldn't have figured out how to make or edit a GCT. As an addendum, there are guides all over, and plenty of places to ask, if the individual doesn't know how to make a GCT of their own.
In the end the answer to this thread is "NO!" a million times over. Absolutely pointless.
To be quite honest, most everyone playing Brawl+ is more than happy with it as is, and are only looking forward to future iterations. This game is geared towards the tourney scene, sure, but that doesn't in any way impact friendlies. Honestly, I can't see the fun of using items-- even in ffas and frienlies as they *******ize the game. So the fact that a few items don't work precisely right is rather moot in my opinion, and I believe many people share that view.
The thing is, most people who are playing Brawl+ (even for the first time) don't care to change anything as everything is perfectly fine as is. They are generally very pleased with their experince with Brawl+... as is.
If the individual, for whatever reason, is not satisified with Brawl+ then to bad. It's not like they don't have full power over what THEY play! They can easily make a GCT with their desired codes. Heck, they can easily edit the Brawl+ GCT if they want, removing whatever they don't want on. It's not difficult, there's no excuse. If the individual was savvy enough to have hacked his or her Wii there's absolutely no escuse as to why said individual couldn't have figured out how to make or edit a GCT. As an addendum, there are guides all over, and plenty of places to ask, if the individual doesn't know how to make a GCT of their own.
In the end the answer to this thread is "NO!" a million times over. Absolutely pointless.
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
To hack my Wii, all I did was download a couple things and stick them on an SD card, then stuck it in my Wii. Boom, now I have Homebrew Channel and GeckoOS. I didn't make them myself, I didn't compile them from scratch, and I have the techno-code savvy of an orangutan. So I don't know the first thing about messing with stuff like that.
Same thing with the gtc. I tried using the code manager program, and either I kept finding a different version of it than everyone keeps talking about or something, but I couldn't figure out how to work it. At all. Even with a video guide. So yeah, not everyone is on the same level as you are.
And maybe Brawl+ was made for the hardcore tourney scene, but a lot of "casuals" like it too, and they're not too keen on everything it has to offer. Personally, I'm fine with everything except the stupid Stage Freeze codes, especially since they screw up my favorite stages (I still don't see why people have to turn them into Final Destination 1.5 With A Different Background anyways, taking out the stuff in them takes out the whole point of playing on them in the first place (and with Spear Pillar, yeah, good job getting rid of the things that can keep people from abusing the cave. No lasers, no Psycho Cuts and no ceiling destruction is a wonderful idea </sarcasm> ).
So let's not be so hasty to tar and feather everyone who's not a devout worshiper of the vanilla Brawl+ with everything.
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
How can it lose its unity if the preconfigured Brawl+ would still be available and listed?
Well of course, that's because everyone that's happy with it is going to be playing it, and those not quite happy with it currently aren't. Chicken and the egg much?
Only ONE item doesn't work correctly thank you very much.
Yet again, chicken and the egg. For something like this, we should be looking at those that are NOT currently playing Brawl+, not those that are.
See BurningCharizard's (awesome) post above
In the end, I think it's ridiculously silly and close-minded to think one way to play a game is absolutely superior than another and I believe that options are ESSENTIAL to free and widespread use of something. The fact that you outright REFUSE to accept that others with different likes and opinions may want to enjoy the benefits of Brawl+ and/or other customized brawl codesets absolutely disgusts me.
On a lighter note, BurningCharizard, unless I do quite a bit of tedious work, I won't be able to use the newest codeset. Alternatively, I can get it done for v4.1 in less than a minute (note that this version is just 4.1, not 4.1b)
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
That works fine by me
Just lose the Stage Freezer codes, that's all I need.
Alphatron
Smash Champion
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If I could get music to work with 4.1B, I'd do it and I'm not the only one who has tried and failed to do so either. Perhaps editing the gct isn't as ridiculously easy as one might think.
Same with Spear Pillar. Brawl+ currently can't make the stage viable, and the removal of the pokemon makes it worthless to just about everyone since the stage isn't tourney viable. Big Blue slow down too.
Also Charizard. wifi room replaces stages cuz it messes up replays otherwise.
Same with Spear Pillar. Brawl+ currently can't make the stage viable, and the removal of the pokemon makes it worthless to just about everyone since the stage isn't tourney viable. Big Blue slow down too.
Also Charizard. wifi room replaces stages cuz it messes up replays otherwise.
Dan_X
Smash Lord
In no way have I "refused to accept that others with different likes and opinions may want to enjoy the benefits of Brawl+." Perhaps you failed to understand my point, that's fine... I'm more than happy for EVERYONE to play just as their heart desires. I have no plans of stopping them. The thing is, Brawl+ isn't limiting or stopping anyone either, and by the way you view this project, and speak of it, you'd think they were. You make it out to be that there should be a disclaimer on the website that says "Warning... some aspects of Brawl+ suck, and here's how to undo them!" There's nothing wrong with anything that Brawl+ provides for the community. If there is a problem, I've stated QUITE CLEARLY that it's easily remedied with the editing of the GCT file, or the text file. It's NOT difficult to do. The fact that anyone could POSSIBLY have problems with it absolutely baffles me. Those of you who are truly puzzled by how to download a program, and put codes into it, or better yet, open a text file with all of the codes done for you baffles me. It's not rocket science by any stretch. The problem here is laziness, and for that, I have no remorse. If one wanted to they could FIGURE out how... it would take two seconds of searching the interwebs to figure it out. It's truly a shame that not everything in this world is done for us, that we have to figure things out from time to time.
You actually expect Brawl+.net to issue a "Brawl+ Home Edition" and "Brawl+ Tourney Edition"? Are you serious? Most of the community consider the "home addition" and the "tourney addition" one and the same. If you don't that's your problem. What a sticky situation. If there was a "Home version" how would it differ from the tourney addition to appease people like you? I'm more than certain many people will not like the codes that you want as part of the "Home edition" as such, they will want their own "Home version." See the dilemma here? It's best remedied by SIMPLY editing the GCT yourself.
It makes me sick that people are so conceited. The backroom has enough going on in Brawl+ to not worry about the whims of a FEW people who want to play Spear Pillar and Wario Ware unfrozen. It shouldn't be a concern of theirs to deal with, as it's something that you, and those of your persuasion, can easily 'FIX' on your own. Stop being selfish, and JUST GO PLAY THE GAME HOW YOU WANT TO. I really don't care for Brawl+ to be slowed down on the basis that attention needs to be reverted to something as nonsensical as this thread.
P.S. I'm far from very tech savvy... but guess what, this might be shocking, I'm intelligent enough to be able to read--- which comes in great when you want to figure out how to do something: like make a GCT.
Good day.
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Good lord, Orca, chill out. You're the one over-reacting about this.
No, not everyone is techno-savvy. I watched video tutorials and read online ones, and I still have no freaking clue how to make the stupid code manager work. I fiddled with it, and failed. every time I put in a code the way it says to do it, I always get one error message or another. In the end I said "Screw it". Maybe if I had someone actually physically here to show me how to do it, it would help, since I'm a very visual learner (I learn the fastest watching someone else do it). And I couldn't open anything either, nothing that seemed to be what needs to be opened to edit anything, anyways.
And as I said before, the entire Stage Freezer thing is ridiculous anyways. All four stages can be easily made in the Stage Builder, nearly exactly like what they're like normally. There's no point forcing them to not do anything interesting. And it makes Spear Pillar completely unplayable to freeze it, because Dialga, Palkia and Cresselia can't chase people out of the cave or destroy the roof.
One size does not fit all, and not everyone has the means or ability to resize it. Options make people happy.
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
Alright, note that in 4.1 ONWR replaces New Pork City - I could change it to the newer " ONWR replaces Rumble Falls" code (just 1 code isn't tedious), would that be better?That works fine by me
Dan_X
Smash Lord
You say this as if I pegged someone as having over-reacted. No need to chill, I'm not mad, I'm simply responding in a realistic manner which I deem appropriate in response to one of Nintendo Maniac's posts.
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
It does? Weird, in the one I have it's just playable by itself O_o Here, just edit the version I have, that might be easier
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wyzmxdjndz4
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
I can't edit from a GCT directly... sorry, it doesn't work like that. :/
I can take another look at the newest codeset...
EDIT: Yeah it says "Rumble Falls is now Online Waiting Room" in this:
http://www.brawlplus.net/downloads/Plusery_Beta5_0.txt
do a ctrl+f and type in "rumble" (without quotes) to find it on the list.
I can take another look at the newest codeset...
EDIT: Yeah it says "Rumble Falls is now Online Waiting Room" in this:
http://www.brawlplus.net/downloads/Plusery_Beta5_0.txt
do a ctrl+f and type in "rumble" (without quotes) to find it on the list.
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Hmm, this is very peculiar. Well, if it actually does replace Rumble Falls completely, then leave it out, too. I can live without the OLWR if it means I'd have to lose one of my favorite stages.
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
well I said by default the codeset I'm editing replaces New Pork City, so would you want that, or still just leave the code out?
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Yeah, leave it out if it completely replaces NPC.
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
Alright, he ya go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnvy2mjn4zy
To everyone else:
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WILL BE CREATING AND MAINTAINING A BRAWL+ HOME EDITION
Test it out to make sure I didn't screw it up or forget something.
EDIT: GCT now shouldn't have the Luigi's Mansion deadlands code.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnvy2mjn4zy
To everyone else:
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WILL BE CREATING AND MAINTAINING A BRAWL+ HOME EDITION
Test it out to make sure I didn't screw it up or forget something.
EDIT: GCT now shouldn't have the Luigi's Mansion deadlands code.
Alphatron
Smash Champion
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Just wondering and not trying to be an ***, but do you actually like this stage? I've put both a texture on it, and custom music, yet I still barely play it. >_>
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Awesome, thanks ^_^ Testing it now
I do, yes. I like all of the Brawl stages, some more than others and NPC is a bit low on the list, but it's still a fun stage.
BurningCharizard
Smash Cadet
Everything works fine, Maniac :D Thank you thank you, you are an officer and a gentleman. So much better with everything working how it should be.
UPDATE: Wait, wait, problem. This one still has the Luigi's Mansion destruction codes in it Please remedy.
UPDATE: Wait, wait, problem. This one still has the Luigi's Mansion destruction codes in it
Please remedy.
Nintendo Maniac 64
Smash Apprentice
Here's a (hopefully) fixed version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnvy2mjn4zy
And yet again, my disclaimer to everyone else:
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WILL BE CREATING AND/OR MAINTAINING A BRAWL+ HOME EDITION
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnvy2mjn4zy
And yet again, my disclaimer to everyone else:
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WILL BE CREATING AND/OR MAINTAINING A BRAWL+ HOME EDITION