Ice Climbers Approach tactics?

[Tamoo]

Hey, olimar main here,
I really admire the way ice climbers can be used in combination and really want to improve my IC gameplay aswell. I have learnt all the major chaingrab and grab combos so that puts me at a good advantage.
However, my problem is that im an olimar main so my game has always been about spacing and staying as far as possible from the opponent. Also, olimars grab has amazing reach and is really easy to pull off. However, I find the ICs grab range lacking somewhat and i cant get used to it.
Therefore, I need help from you guys for any possible approaches into grabs because im too used to backing off and running into a grab. Plus, all my friends are really defensive in their gameplay so are generally hard to hit or grab so I cant really use all the grab combos Ive learnt. Any help will be greatfully appreciated.

Oh yeah, and because im new to ICs, dont use too many techincal terms and try to explain everything please otherwise I probably wouldnt understand what your talking about.
Thanks

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

Hmm, I use the following approaches.

Squall hammer
Ascending back aerial to descending aerial blizzard so that both blasts of ice go at the opponent
Descending back aerial to F-smash
Dashing Short hop Blizzard
Dashing Shield to grab
Other stuff...

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Ascending back aerial to descending aerial blizzard so that both blasts of ice go at the opponent
.

You realize you can desynch from the hitlag of the Bair so that Nana does a Blizzard by herself, right? Just input the Blizzard command during the hitlag of the Bair. It's really simple and really effective.

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

You realize you can desynch from the hitlag of the Bair so that Nana does a Blizzard by herself, right? Just input the Blizzard command during the hitlag of the Bair. It's really simple and really effective.

What I meant was that I could jump and hit both back airs with a short hop, then while I'm descending, do a double blizzard. I guess your suggestion works too.

How do I get the timing for this? I've never done this before...

 

[FrozenHobo]

You realize you can desynch from the hitlag of the Bair so that Nana does a Blizzard by herself, right? Just input the Blizzard command during the hitlag of the Bair. It's really simple and really effective.

i need to try and get that down. that would be a great approach....


but yeah, for starters, the squall hammer, short hop blizzard, and roll dodge to shield grab are all good. the more advanced you get, the more creative you can get. but do try to master short hops. ICs in the air are very floaty. short hops keep them close to the ground.

 

[choknater]

desynched shorthop blizzards

 

[chewyy]

i need to try and get that down. that would be a great approach.....

yeah, I haven't tried it with blizzards, but I know you can buffer a pivot->iceblock during any lag and Nana will not do it. (shoot the ice block) This works like the pivot desynch.

The bair -> nana blizzard thing sounds different though, I'll have to try it.

 

[DKKountry]

desynched shorthop blizzards

This has a lot of win, but I also like me some desynched squall hammers. Time it so that Nana gets to the opponent first and they'll usually attack her and become open to a mean Popopunishing... but it's not spammable lol.

Also working on the same principle but a tad more risky is desynched short-hop Fairs lol. Not a very reliable technique but it looks kind of menacing to see two angry Icees hopping at you with mallets blazing lolol.

Best mindgame approach is a combination of the 3 though.

 

[Miller]

Nawp, your all wrong, you run in blindly and grab at every moment

 

[choknater]

lol too good millar

 

[lain]

Pivot into a nana blizzard, and run in with blizzard covering you.

XDtoo secksy

 

[Smasher89]

Desynching the iceblocks while jumping forward puts some pressure on the opponent, you´ll just to get the timing down so Nana doesn´t IB when Popo is, shorthop Iceblock approach ftw (lol a little like Falcos approach in SSBM...)

 

[DKKountry]

Nawp, your all wrong, you run in blindly and grab at every moment

Pretend we have variety k?

 

[Wafles]

Wow, the ice climbers seem really advanced. I really thought it was all chaingrabs, but after reading a few topics on here it's clear that there's so much more to it.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Wow, the ice climbers seem really advanced. I really thought it was all chaingrabs, but after reading a few topics on here it's clear that there's so much more to it.

we've having our own little renaissance here. we're breaking away from the idea of only CGing. hopefully this will help make the IC metagame better. (lol at sounding like i know what i'm talking about!)

 

[Miller]

Pretend we have variety k?

But...but.... over 9000% of IC players do what I said, its trueeeeee

 

[lain]

... Variety?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

My favorite approach is run forward to shield, lol.

Against a lot of characters, if I don't plan on getting a grab or KOing, I usually just blizzard camp, because the ICs really don't need to approach very often in quite a few match-ups.

 

[choknater]

ok variety? RAR nairs ok

 

[Miller]

ok variety? RAR nairs ok

But...but... WHAT ABOUT GRABBING D:

 

[KRDsonic]

I usually approach with blizzards or a shield > something else, usually grab/down smash/up/down tilt.

If I'm solo I usually use areal approaches.

 

[Miller]

I usually approach with blizzards or a shield > something else, usually grab/down smash/up/down tilt.

If I'm solo I usually use areal approaches.

If im solo i run the **** away and use blizz to atleast rack up dmg

 

[FrozenHobo]

recently i've been short hop -> doule blizzard -> synced squall hammer

it pops them up for a combo, but it gets predictable really fast....

 

[stoopdklutz]

RAR nairing? What will that accomplish? haha

 

[choknater]

anything and everything

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

anything and everything

hyuk hyuk

Chok's so amazing.

 

[DKKountry]

anything and everything

Everytime you RAR nair, somebody's kitten comes back to life, someone's blindness is cured, and someone else's hairy palms heal from their hairyness.

 

[choknater]

duh i thought everyone knew that

 

[DKKountry]

Everyone except Hairy-Mitts Steve and One-Eyed Ralph.

They're still waiting for their RAR nair.