i wish doc's f-air could spike enemies

[MarioMariox2]

Rasengan (Mario Fsmash) > Chidori (Doc Fsmash)

It even showed in the early episodes of Naruto when the two ninjas blasted the water towers. Chidori has the "piercing" power, Rasengan has the "explosive" range.

We indeed have to work together to bring BOTH characters up the tier list :D

 

[Blanky]

yes but if youre against lets say falco then a spike would be better because falco would have to tech out of it or get utterly destroyed by doc's fsamsh

haha you could just go mario if that was your strategy. he doesnt have a spike, but his f-air is close enough. but i personally prefer gimps over trying to spike a fox and falco, and doc has plenty of ways to gimp them. a spike would be awesome though. maybe if he had a d-air like luigi where he can spike with his buttocks.

 

[St. Viers]

If you want combos, edgeguarding AND spikes on people, play marth =P

Anywho, I'm getting regular practice again, so ^_^

 

[ranmaru]

Marth is too heavy xD Plus it feels weird not having a projectile and just having a long sword.

Marth is good though.

 

[Van.]

Only if you're fighting lightweights

Pro docs KO other pros with Fair all the time...

 

[Mr.Lemon]

Pro docs KO other pros with Fair all the time...

Yea exactly, which gives Doc an extra kill move which gives him an advantage over Mario. And like I said before Doc's f.air is just another reason why he is slightly higher up on the tier list than Mario.

 

[Blanky]

Yea exactly, which gives Doc an extra kill move which gives him an advantage over Mario. And like I said before Doc's f.air is just another reason why he is slightly higher up on the tier list than Mario.

yeah i agree haha. f-air works on everyone im pretty sure. it does work GREAT on floaties though. but it can be used to kill anyone else.

 

[ranmaru]

Yes but you have to make sure you actually HIT with it first. If you miss you are quite the vulnerable opponent.

 

[Mr.Lemon]

Your not too vulnerable if you miss an f.air, i mean your can still DI out of the way. And you can cancel it on the ground which is also good. So it's definitely not easy to punish

 

[ranmaru]

Yes, but what if you missed the L cancel as well? What if you hit a shield? You'd be in shield stun for a bit, and then you'd be grabbed or something.

I know, I myself am a risky player haha.

Just approaching with fair is no good. (from far away)

It really depends on your situation as well.

Really, when do you LIKE to use fair? When does it work for you?

I just like to throw it out randomly. (and in a dunk)

Also sometimes if us Docs react to a high knockback hit with fair by accident... We'd die if we were off the edge.

: [ (Happens to me sometimes with the C-stick)

You try to approach marth with fair and see what happens.

 

[Blanky]

Yes, but what if you missed the L cancel as well? What if you hit a shield? You'd be in shield stun for a bit, and then you'd be grabbed or something.

I know, I myself am a risky player haha.

Just approaching with fair is no good. (from far away)

It really depends on your situation as well.

Really, when do you LIKE to use fair? When does it work for you?

I just like to throw it out randomly. (and in a dunk)

Also sometimes if us Docs react to a high knockback hit with fair by accident... We'd die if we were off the edge.

: [ (Happens to me sometimes with the C-stick)

You try to approach marth with fair and see what happens.

approaching with f-air and using it as a kill move are not the same things. you want to use f-air safely because of it's consequential lag. i, typically, use it after a throw or when the opponent is in the air and open (preferrably with hit lag!). either that or after a good read. they cant sheild in the air.

examples:
out of a throw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbog-KsL1AA#t=1m38s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE8bfYeeTFo#t=2m12s

opponent in the air - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Q2OFbIEcc#t=1m35s

good read - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItXPX8Se8MU#t=7m12s

 

[Mr.Lemon]

Very true Blanky. Also, if you did want to approach with it (which is not the best way to approach), you could always wait for an opining where you know they will not have time to shield. Or even if they do shield your f.air you can always L-cancel that too and follow it up with a jab.

 

[ranmaru]

Yes, I meant Dunk as in - Throw up and fair = Dunk.

Also, I like to use fairs in such situations as -

Peach downsmashes, if I'm close enough, I'll punish with a fair in her head.

Yeah, like I said, not too good, but I would have to set up for a fair, like you said.

So pill and then run and fair, might work. Might not. ;P

Oh right! I just forgot something...

Fairing shields. I shouldn't fair all in their face. I should tip them with it, lol. That way I can L cancel hopefully.

 

[Mr.Lemon]

Right. I do the same thing when peach d.smashes because that move takes a long time.........She's such a *****

 

[ranmaru]

Yes, I can agree to that, Peach being a *****.

 

[COOPER]

I was playing with my roommate last night and I said, " I wish Doc's F-air could spike". But then I thought of how you can tech chase/read for a kill at higher percents and punish from throws or missed L-cancels etc. and I took it back.

 

[Smo]

Fair is one of my favourite things about Doc!

 

[BlackDr.Mario]

I wish doc didn't have pills

What? Doc's pills are one of many reasons he's awesome!

 

[VGmasta]

What? Doc's pills are one of many reasons he's awesome!

Which is why superwavedash doesn't like Doc's pills. I'm sure superwavedash is a Samus main, which would make fighting against Doc's pills a pain.

 

[ranmaru]

But Samus has missiles and a charge shot lol. Although we have pills and a cape. : ]

 

[1048576]

Doc has the 3rd best projectile game.

But yeah OP wat is this I don't even you need fair to kill lolol look at mario.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

the way marios fair is in brawl+(or is it project melee?) is cool. It has the doc fair hit box for most of it but then on the swing down it spikes like marios

 

[MarioMariox2]

the way marios fair is in brawl+(or is it project melee?) is cool. It has the doc fair hit box for most of it but then on the swing down it spikes like marios

Mario's Fair is like that in vBrawl as well. The sweetspot is a meteor and the sourspot is an outward hit.

 

[ranmaru]

Doc has the 3rd best projectile game.

But yeah OP wat is this I don't even you need fair to kill lolol look at mario.

loool.

Yeah almost as good as lasers but slow. : [ So like, chars like jiggs are the only peeps who have trouble with them.

But pills are damn good still.

 

[Revven]

Mario's Fair is like that in vBrawl as well. The sweetspot is a meteor and the sourspot is an outward hit.

Too bad it sucks and it doesn't use the Doc Mario stats like PM Mario's does (and no it's not Brawl+ that did the hybrid Fair).

 

[MarioMariox2]

Watchin to see.