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"I See All" - Palutena Video Thread

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I'm prepared for the Palutena boards to become a ghost town once customs stop being trendy.

These boards are already kinda dead, I doubt it'll get much worse if customs get banned again. Most of us started hangin' out around here before they became a thing in tournaments anyways.
 

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In middle May, I attended a tournament and I managed to record a set on my capture card. I got bodied because of my addict to spam smashes and getting out of neutral, I want to know more about the Duck Hunt MU.


Also made this after the tourney ended. Don't get fooled, It's not a BO3, I just merged the first 2-stock match with the 3-stock ones. It was a joke match between me and my opponent's WAIFUS :v

 

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Awesome read at 5:51

Makes me believe that the Palutena x Luigi MU is even, the edgeguarding is great, all Palutena's KO options works against him and I think Luigi is relatively light.
 

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Reposting this cause the Red Tyrants deleted iT....

Sometimes I'm bad at this game.


Then sometimes I'm not.


Awesome read at 5:51

Makes me believe that the Palutena x Luigi MU is even, the edgeguarding is great, all Palutena's KO options works against him and I think Luigi is relatively light.
If this is directed at my video then thanks.
I find that match up to be pretty even, though I have yet to play a large number of Luigi's yet.
Though Luigi is rather mid weight.
 

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VODS from two major tourneys I attended, Enthusiast Gaming Live (EGL) and Get On My Level 2015 (GOML 2015), were just recently uploaded so I thought I'd share my matches!

These were both pretty large tourneys and had top players from my region and from outside Ontario as well. Boreal_Ally and Boreal_Holy made an appearance at EGL and at GOML we had LoF Nakat, Boreal_Holy, Max Ketchum and others. I got lucky and managed to get on stream a lot of times. I used Vanilla Palutena the entire time in both tournaments.

In the end, I got 9th for singles and 3rd for dubs at EGL and got top 8 (7th) for singles and 3rd for dubs at GOML. GOML was the first time I broke top 8 with Palu at a national so it was really exciting for me.


Enthusiast Gaming Live (EGL) / Toryuken 2015

Singles

Iceninja vs EGE | Coffeeblack (Shulk)
Iceninja vs EMG | Blacktwins (Falcon, Mario)
Iceninja vs Hammond is a Fraud (Peach)

Doubles
Winner's Quarters ~ EMG | Toronto Joe + AGN | Kid Goggles vs EGE | Chrim Foish + Iceninja
Loser's Semis ~ EMG | Toronto Joe + AGN | Kid Goggles vs EGE | Chrim Foish + Iceninja
Loser's Finals ~ EMG | Blacktwins + SCS | Meekspeedy vs EGE | Chrim Foish + Iceninja


Get On My Level 2015 (GOML 2015)

Singles
Iceninja vs Blueman (Sheik)
Iceninja vs Astro (Lucario)
Iceninja vs LoF | Nakat (Falcon)
Iceninja vs Seel (Yoshi)
Iceninja vs Max Ketchum (Falcon)

Doubles
Losers Semis - Iceninja + Phillycheese vs Nysyarc + Zhao_Guang
Losers Finals - Iceninja + Phillycheese vs EMG | Blacktwins + EGE | Chrim Foish
 
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Wow that Astro guy sure is bad ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Good stuff though Icyninja.
 

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VODS from two major tourneys I attended, Enthusiast Gaming Live (EGL) and Get On My Level 2015 (GOML 2015), were just recently uploaded so I thought I'd share my matches!
1) Awesome matches! Great to see someone putting in werk with Palutena's default moveset and still getting results.
2) Your outfit in the GOML videos is so fierce!
 

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Excellent videos IceNinja! You've inspired me to try Pal in non-custom tournaments
 

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Hey everyone, I've been practicing my Palutena for a while and consider her my solo main.

Here's my loser's quarters set from her tournament debut at a local bi-weekly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9J77hixjg

Any comments, suggestions, and tips are appreciated! (Sorry about that last SD, I lost my double jump in the Slash Claw :c)
 

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Hey everyone, I've been practicing my Palutena for a while and consider her my solo main.

Here's my loser's quarters set from her tournament debut at a local bi-weekly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9J77hixjg

Any comments, suggestions, and tips are appreciated! (Sorry about that last SD, I lost my double jump in the Slash Claw :c)
Nicely done. Congrats on making it to loser's quarters in your debut!

Overall I felt your play was really good. You've got your spacing down pretty well for the most part and I really liked your empty jump grab mixes up as well. Main thing I noticed was that at some points you ended up throwing a lot of aerials too much and you got punished for it. At some points you did some full hop bairs that missed and Megaman got some punishes out of them.

You also ended up getting hit by quite a few Megaman bairs when that happened. First time you got KO'd Megaman was about to land and you tried to hit him with a bair but his bair came out first instead. Sometimes when they are in about to land it might be good to be a bit more patient, either weave out of their range to be safe or try to shield. As long as you mix it up a bit so your opponent never knows if you're going to smack them with an aerial or bait out one their moves.
 

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My smash scene has been running weekly tournaments that alternate between customs and vanilla for the past while now. I've gotten quite a few matches on stream for Palutena, especially in customs so I figured I would show some of the custom matches that I managed to get on stream.

Just some extra info, our weeklies happen every friday at A & C Games in Toronto. Matches are streamed at http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/ starting around 6:00 PM EST and usually go to around 10:30 PM EST. The weeklies tend to alternate between vanilla and customs every other week. I usually use random characters in vanilla weeklies but I always go Palutena in custom week.

Here's a link to the brackets
http://challonge.com/users/blacktwins13

Codename Salty Bets - Customs #3 - Challonge Link

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/c/6694157

00:09:40 - vs Senpai ~ Winner's Side

00:25:35 - vs hell-dew ~ Winner's Quarters


http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/c/6694166

00:54:10 - vs EMG | Blacktwins ~ Winner's Semis

01:11:25 - vs Poke ~ Winner's Finals

01:37:30 - vs EMG | Blacktwins ~ Loser's Finals


Codename Salty Bets - Customs #4 - Challonge Link

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/b/668460353

02:38:50 - vs V115 ~ Winner's Quarters

03:40:55 - vs DKBill ~ Loser's Quarters

03:54:20 - vs Poke ~ Loser's Semis


Codename Salty Bets - Customs #5 - Challonge Link

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/b/670629971?t=6m51s

00:06:51 - Vs Yoh ~ Winner's Quarters

00:40:15 - vs EMG | Blacktwins ~ Winner's Semis


http://www.twitch.tv/blacktwins13/b/670648881

00:34:20 - vs V115 ~ Winner's Finals

00:53:37 - vs Spacedong ~ Loser's Finals

01:04:21 - vs V115 ~ Grand Finals
 
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@ Ice Ninja Ice Ninja love your videos but one question:

What is this "Reflect" nonsense?????????? There's this move called Super Speed I don't know if youve heard of it
 

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@ Ice Ninja Ice Ninja love your videos but one question:

What is this "Reflect" nonsense?????????? There's this move called Super Speed I don't know if youve heard of it
I only used it in the Villager match up and the Luigi match up. For Villager it felt better to have reflect since trip seed stopped my super speed but as for Luigi, still not sure if Super speed or reflect is better. I kept getting stuffed by fireballs so I went to reflect. Whenever I did my normal spacing game against Poke's Luigi, I tended to do better.
 
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I only used it in the Villager match up and the Luigi match up. For Villager it felt better to have reflect since trip seed stopped my super speed but as for Luigi, still not sure if Super speed or reflect is better. I kept getting stuffed by fireballs so I went to reflect. Whenever I did my normal spacing game against Poke's Luigi, I tended to do better.
Good thinking VS Villager. I would say that's pretty optimal actually.

VS Luigi I would go SS. Fireballs are annoying as all hell, so I completely understand. You lose some damage output when you don't go SS though. Since it gives you that reach to make a hit you otherwise couldn't land. I could see a slower, more defensive Palu being successful with Reflect as well. Though I wonder if that's suboptimal.
 

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Good thinking VS Villager. I would say that's pretty optimal actually.

VS Luigi I would go SS. Fireballs are annoying as all hell, so I completely understand. You lose some damage output when you don't go SS though. Since it gives you that reach to make a hit you otherwise couldn't land. I could see a slower, more defensive Palu being successful with Reflect as well. Though I wonder if that's suboptimal.
Yeah its true, there are still ways around fireball without reflect but I lose a lot of combo potential and ways to recover without super speed. Right now the only Luigi I have trouble with in my region is Poke since he is one of top players here so it may be more a mental block than whether super speed or reflect is better. Still needs testing though but next time I might try super speed again.
 

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Nicely done. Congrats on making it to loser's quarters in your debut!

Overall I felt your play was really good. You've got your spacing down pretty well for the most part and I really liked your empty jump grab mixes up as well. Main thing I noticed was that at some points you ended up throwing a lot of aerials too much and you got punished for it. At some points you did some full hop bairs that missed and Megaman got some punishes out of them.

You also ended up getting hit by quite a few Megaman bairs when that happened. First time you got KO'd Megaman was about to land and you tried to hit him with a bair but his bair came out first instead. Sometimes when they are in about to land it might be good to be a bit more patient, either weave out of their range to be safe or try to shield. As long as you mix it up a bit so your opponent never knows if you're going to smack them with an aerial or bait out one their moves.
Thanks so much for the advice! I've been working with a friend of mine on refining my neutral and playing patiently. I'll be sure to post more matches when I'm back in the tournament scene come fall.
 

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Hey guys, it's been a while. I've been pretty busy with EVO practice and stuff, so I haven't been keeping up with the boards as much. I'm sure you've probably seen these already, but I figured I would post them for record keeping. Prepare for a long list of vids...

Denti's Bizarre Adventure 4
Vs. Necro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2256QyQidpw&index=25&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Q024NDDX8l-KAYUJHom45Z

Vs. TEC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMBqmhF45Zo&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Q024NDDX8l-KAYUJHom45Z&index=26

Vs. FTP with Gibus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFnPDxmV7r8&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Q024NDDX8l-KAYUJHom45Z&index=39

Vs. Larry Lurr (Winners Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NCvhWMPWQ&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Q024NDDX8l-KAYUJHom45Z&index=44

Vs. Larry Lurr (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJ13bpIuBE&index=47&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Q024NDDX8l-KAYUJHom45Z

Shockwave 31
Vs. Calm Animal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWFhJESquI&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu0BRITnIQzJwGGWhUxN3T&index=16

Vs. Phenom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhwY-BFjm-E&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu0BRITnIQzJwGGWhUxN3T&index=17

Vs. Denti - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntuGIz5iVGA&index=18&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu0BRITnIQzJwGGWhUxN3T

Come And Take It
Vs. Weegee - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBcmsms0gos&index=46&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TgEAhcfF14zxIe0LAeEums

Vs. Espy (Winners Quarter Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th27UBzagSI&index=49&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TgEAhcfF14zxIe0LAeEums

Vs. Mook - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrf-2G79zU&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TgEAhcfF14zxIe0LAeEums&index=54

Vs. Megafox - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkixN4cYg1o&index=60&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TgEAhcfF14zxIe0LAeEums

Vs. Espy (Losers Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMHmfnkrtpI&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TgEAhcfF14zxIe0LAeEums&index=61

Shockwave 32
Vs. KirbyKid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_TM_smyKh4&index=9&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC

Vs. tinderbox - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5g8ycFtGo&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC&index=10

Vs. Oracle (Winners Semi Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2oQ68ZTQmM&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC&index=11

Vs. Denti (Winners Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF3VTYysfrQ&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC&index=15

Vs. Oracle (Losers Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmOI7yKJvk8&index=17&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC

Vs. Denti (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD_wTziAy_w&index=18&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TLH1IAk5TL1DTZZU38Q-PC

Shockwave 33
Vs. Karna - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHHSMqWH3CE&index=17&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RblcU_mdpvSInjZNYxyDGi

Vs. Denti - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7CcoVSxTw&index=19&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RblcU_mdpvSInjZNYxyDGi

Vs. Trela - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp8m9iEokTk&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RblcU_mdpvSInjZNYxyDGi&index=23

Shockwave 34
Vs. Mook - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ9-g3xozQs&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TqiNeEIS2ovjIQo2deWQSL&index=14

Vs. Dakpo (Winners Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZXoPcrJRZY&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TqiNeEIS2ovjIQo2deWQSL&index=17

Vs. Dakpo (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64V8taCGXI8&index=19&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5TqiNeEIS2ovjIQo2deWQSL

And now for the latest tournament at Shockwave 35!

Vs. F5 Rob - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0-QxDN9Cs&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RLsNylErThQcm_ckqSZ7v7&index=1

Vs. Hyrule Hero - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPJInt7lRI&index=13&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RLsNylErThQcm_ckqSZ7v7

Vs. Cosmic Cosmos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-4AVnqN6Y&index=16&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RLsNylErThQcm_ckqSZ7v7

Vs. Gyo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t786s9fRw7o&index=19&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RLsNylErThQcm_ckqSZ7v7

Vs. Denti - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRv3_vDfMbA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RLsNylErThQcm_ckqSZ7v7&index=22
 
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Mew2King (Palutena 1122) vs Scatt (Megaman)


Wow. Does M2K think he can just pick up Palutena and score an easy automatic janky win with Lightweight? Jesus Christ, I respect pros with the "play 2 win" mentality but his Palutena representation was pathetic

Do I even have to point out how amateur he was? He LITERALLY never jabbed at all (So what if Palutena's grab is 1 frame faster than her frame 8 jab? That's why you don't go for jabs right? LOL what a delusional mess you are Jason. You lost it). All he did was roll around (literally For Glory style) trying to get a grab. He ended up getting 2 stocked and SDing cuz he obviously doesn't know **** about Palutena and recovered too low with Jump Glide. So ****ing insulting.

LOL. Dude M2K. Palutena is not easy. She's intricate, super technical, and mechanically demanding. Seriously man, I was super hype when I heard you were interested in custom Palutena cuz a professional talented player joining to evolve Palutena's meta is ALWAYS welcome, but stick with Rosalina if you want easy wins.

Hey M2k if you're ever reading this, let's go couple Palutena dittos rounds! Make sure it's on stream too so everyone can see your Palutena and YOU YOURSELF are a joke. Seriously, man. I lost total respect to you M2K. You are taking this "play 2 win" mentality beyond reason. You are trying to find the easiest most broken character for you to abuse for you to get easy wins but guess what bro? Some people are actually dedicated to their character and the game Smash 4 itself. You obviously are trying to find the easiest route in an unacceptably insulting manner that's not just insulting for Palutena mains but for the entire Smash 4. I'll make your life easier for you. You should main Sheik. She's the best character in the game but SORRY you actually have to invest time and effort to be good with her! But yeah, I think you have the right idea choosing Rosalina if Sheik is too much work for you.



Edit: How do I tag people? I want to make sure M2K definitely reads this.
 
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Mew2King (Palutena 1122) vs Scatt (Megaman)


Wow. Does M2K think he can just pick up Palutena and score an easy automatic janky win with Lightweight? Jesus Christ, I respect pros with the "play 2 win" mentality but his Palutena representation was pathetic

Do I even have to point out how amateur he was? He LITERALLY never jabbed at all (So what if Palutena's grab is 1 frame faster than her frame 8 jab? That's why you don't go for jabs right? LOL what a delusional mess you are Jason. You lost it). All he did was roll around (literally For Glory style) trying to get a grab. He ended up getting 2 stocked and SDing cuz he obviously doesn't know **** about Palutena and recovered too low with Jump Glide. So ****ing insulting.

LOL. Dude M2K. Palutena is not easy. She's intricate, super technical, and mechanically demanding. Seriously man, I was super hype when I heard you were interested in custom Palutena cuz a professional talented player joining to evolve Palutena's meta is ALWAYS welcome, but stick with Rosalina if you want easy wins.

Hey M2k if you're ever reading this, let's go couple Palutena dittos rounds! Make sure it's on stream too so everyone can see your Palutena and YOU YOURSELF are a joke. Seriously, man. I lost total respect to you M2K. You are taking this "play 2 win" mentality beyond reason. You are trying to find the easiest most broken character for you to abuse for you to get easy wins but guess what bro? Some people are actually dedicated to their character and the game Smash 4 itself. You obviously are trying to find the easiest route in an unacceptably insulting manner that's not just insulting for Palutena mains but for the entire Smash 4. I'll make your life easier for you. You should main Sheik. She's the best character in the game but SORRY you actually have to invest time and effort to be good with her! But yeah, I think you have the right idea choosing Rosalina if Sheik is too much work for you.



Edit: How do I tag people? I want to make sure M2K definitely reads this.
Personally, I hope you're joking about all this. Otherwise, you're being kind of a git. Seriously, who gets mad over this?
 
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He wasn't really good with Palu but thats no reason to insult him. Honestly i can't really deal with Megaman too i bet i would get rekt just like him....I'm working on it.

Well there are 2 options for him: Get better with her or drop her.
If he gets better then "yay another good Palu-main" if he drops her "ok he never really wanted to play her serious"
So there isn't a problem.
 

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Personally, I hope you're joking about all this. Otherwise, you're being kind of a git. Seriously, who gets mad over this?
I went to fire and dice tournament and people gave me so much **** for playing Palutena. People think she's an easy automatic win. I put a lot of time and effort to be good with her. She requires skill and deserves respect. I main Pikachu as well and pikachus custom is honestly just flat out broken and easy to win with. How hard is it to side b heavy skull bash on an already super good character? But for some reason people were fine with Pikachu but ****ing hated custom Palutena thinking she's an easy janky automatic win requiring no skill. Sorry but watching Jason thinking he can exploit Palutena and failing terribly just hit the wrong spot for me.
 

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Yeah I REALLY don't get why people think custom Palutena is Baby Mode. Honestly, Jump Glide, Super Speed, and Lightweight make an already hard to play character even harder IMO. Controlling custom Palutena and making use of her wealth of options (especially stuff like Glidebouncing, that's something not even AeroLink uses) isn't the easiest thing in the world.
 
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I went to fire and dice tournament and people gave me so much **** for playing Palutena. People think she's an easy automatic win. I put a lot of time and effort to be good with her. She requires skill and deserves respect. I main Pikachu as well and pikachus custom is honestly just flat out broken and easy to win with. How hard is it to side b heavy skull bash on an already super good character? But for some reason people were fine with Pikachu but ****ing hated custom Palutena thinking she's an easy janky automatic win requiring no skill. Sorry but watching Jason thinking he can exploit Palutena and failing terribly just hit the wrong spot for me.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like those people at the tournament just don't like Palutena in general (fine with Pikachu, you said?). I don't know. Either way, I don't see how that justifies you bashing on M2K for using Palutena and not doing very well with her. You can't expect everyone that uses Palutena to be AeroLink, you know.
 

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Sorry to hear that. Sounds like those people at the tournament just don't like Palutena in general (fine with Pikachu, you said?). I don't know. Either way, I don't see how that justifies you bashing on M2K for using Palutena and not doing very well with her. You can't expect everyone that uses Palutena to be AeroLink, you know.
lol I was pretty harsh huh? But you have to admit M2K's Palutena was pure garbage.

Aerolink is exceptional and his success with the character should be respected!

I really don't expect Palutena players to be as good as Aerolink, but I hope to God people don't actually expect Palutena is a free easy cheap way to win. The amount of skill Palutena demands is no joke. You do not get results with Palutena through jank.
 

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lol I was pretty harsh huh? But you have to admit M2K's Palutena was pure garbage.
Personally, I've seen worse.

Aerolink is exceptional and his success with the character should be respected!
I never said he wasn't.

I really don't expect Palutena players to be as good as Aerolink, but I hope to God people don't actually expect Palutena is a free easy cheap way to win. The amount of skill Palutena demands is no joke. You do not get results with Palutena through jank.
Well if they think Palutena is a go-to character for winning tournaments they're going to find out the hard way that she isn't anyway.
 
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I went to fire and dice tournament and people gave me so much **** for playing Palutena. People think she's an easy automatic win. I put a lot of time and effort to be good with her.
If someone gave me grief for playing Palutena in a customs tournament i'd just be like "yo i don't need these customs i'll fite you default idc"


also if i ever got that one guy who implied i play palutena because she's a hot waifu or whatever i'd be like

do you see that lightbulb over there

you can thank the god of light for that show some respect

edit: wait, i thought we were in the social thread... this is getting off topic lol, more videos please!
 
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Wintropy

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If someone gave me grief for playing Palutena in a customs tournament i'd just be like "yo i don't need these customs i'll fite you default idc"


also if i ever got that one guy who implied i play palutena because she's a hot waifu or whatever i'd be like

do you see that lightbulb over there

you can thank the god of light for that show some respect

edit: wait, i thought we were in the social thread... this is getting off topic lol, more videos please!
This is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single most hysterical thing I have read today.

I seriously need to get an SD card so I can save my replays. I had some great sets against my brother's Brawler and Roy earlier, would be nice if I could share these things in future. We really do need more footage to dissect. Please god(dess) pray that EVO delivers.
 
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JayWon

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You guys should check out my instagram account for entertaining 15 second clips of Palutena:
https://instagram.com/p1katena/

There's a lot of clips and I don't expect you to see them all but if anything I tagged these specifically that are all definitely worth watching!
>> TL;DW Tagged worthy highlights <<

If you are super super lazy (I really encourage you guys to at least see the TL;DW), here are a handful

(2322) Nice combo string
(2322) Against DK

Don't get me wrong. It's not like I don't know how to play default Palutena. I played thousands of For Glory matches with default. Customs Palutena is just... where it's at.

(1111) Warp canceling yada yada the usual
(1111) Bread and butter yawn

Anyways, would be cool if fellow Palutena mains followed, support and comment under some videos you like~
Definitely recommend browsing through the TL;DW! It's 15 seconds vids!
 

Super FOG

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I got used to default Palutena, since my local scene doesn't play with customs. I just have a hard time trying to warp ledge cancel properly. But it sucks the low scarcity of default Palutena videos over there.
 

KawaiiDesuNe~~

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Hey AeroLink, I've got a few questions for you, if you don't mind.

1. What exactly is the situation with customs at Shockwave? Are they gone for good, or will they come back if they have favorable results at Evo?

2. Who are you going to use if customs are gone for good? As much as I love Palutena, even I can't deny that she simply isn't a very good character without customs. Will you continue to use her, or switch to someone else?

3. Why do you use Autoreticle rather than Explosive Flame? I'll be the first to admit that I'm not nearly as good of a player as you, but in my experience Explosive Flame is almost always more useful.

Thanks for your time.
 

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster

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Hey AeroLink, I've got a few questions for you, if you don't mind.

1. What exactly is the situation with customs at Shockwave? Are they gone for good, or will they come back if they have favorable results at Evo?

2. Who are you going to use if customs are gone for good? As much as I love Palutena, even I can't deny that she simply isn't a very good character without customs. Will you continue to use her, or switch to someone else?

3. Why do you use Autoreticle rather than Explosive Flame? I'll be the first to admit that I'm not nearly as good of a player as you, but in my experience Explosive Flame is almost always more useful.

Thanks for your time.
1. Low Tier City 3, which is my region's national/regional tournament, will be using the default ruleset; this means Shockwave tournaments will be switching back to default in preparation for the upcoming big tournament as well as other tournaments such as Smash Con/Paragon/EGL, etc. It's safe to say customs will be gone on a national scale after EVO; almost every top player (as well as other players) prefers default, and I believe it's an effort to finally have a general, unified ruleset so that other international players, such as players in Japan who play under the default ruleset, can compete in a familiar environment. This past Shockwave was the last one for customs, so winning this meant a lot to me.

2. I will continue to play Palutena in default. I still haven't figured out exactly what I will end up doing, but I know atm, Palutena is my best character by far (my other characters are so underdeveloped compared to her) and I'll see how I perform in the coming weeks following EVO. I may have to pick a secondary, but it's not really my style to do so; I'm basically a character-specialist type of player. I can hope that Palutena gets significant buffs in future patches. We'll see, but for now, the simple answer is yes, I will continue to use Palutena.

3. I've used Auto Reticle over Explosive Flame due to it having more poking range, and it has less startup and cooldown; also it can be used for ground-lock setups. It's only been recently that I started to incorporate Explosive Flame for playing against certain MUs and player playstyles. In my on-stream matches for this past Shockwave, I used Explosive Flame because I played against Ness who can heal off of Auto Reticle, and Diddy, to pressure him on the ledge or hiding behind or with a banana peel, without having to approach him since it can put me in a bad situation in his favor. The rest of my matches, which were offstream, I used Auto Reticle. At this point, I will alternate between the two, because I think
Auto Reticle does better vs. the fast characters that can avoid Explosive Flame (For example, I use Auto Reticle vs. Sheik; I can time a short-hop or full-hop Auto Reticle just as Sheik releases her needles), aerial-based characters, and big characters by zoning them out briefly with precise timing. If Explosive Flame wasn't so laggy compared to Auto Reticle, I'd be using it for every match.
 
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Yoshi Kirishima

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1. Low Tier City 3, which is my region's national/regional tournament, will be using the default ruleset; this means Shockwave tournaments will be switching back to default in preparation for the upcoming big tournament as well as other tournaments such as Smash Con/Paragon/EGL, etc. It's safe to say customs will be gone on a national scale after EVO; almost every top player (as well as other players) prefers default, and I believe it's an effort to finally have a general, unified ruleset so that other international players, such as players in Japan who play under the default ruleset, can compete in a familiar environment. This past Shockwave was the last one for customs, so winning this meant a lot to me.

2. I will continue to play Palutena in default. I still haven't figured out exactly what I will end up doing, but I know atm, Palutena is my best character by far (my other characters are so underdeveloped compared to her) and I'll see how I perform in the coming weeks following EVO. I may have to pick a secondary, but it's not really my style to do so; I'm basically a character-specialist type of player. I can hope that Palutena gets significant buffs in future patches. We'll see, but for now, the simple answer is yes, I will continue to use Palutena.

3. I've used Auto Reticle over Explosive Flame due to it having more poking range, and it has less startup and cooldown; also it can be used for ground-lock setups. It's only been recently that I started to incorporate Explosive Flame for playing against certain MUs and player playstyles. In my on-stream matches for this past Shockwave, I used Explosive Flame because I played against Ness who can heal off of Auto Reticle, and Diddy, to pressure him on the ledge or hiding behind or with a banana peel, without having to approach him since it can put me in a bad situation in his favor. The rest of my matches, which were offstream, I used Auto Reticle. At this point, I will alternate between the two, because I think
Auto Reticle does better vs. the fast characters that can avoid Explosive Flame (For example, I use Auto Reticle vs. Sheik; I can time a short-hop or full-hop Auto Reticle just as Sheik releases her needles), aerial-based characters, and big characters by zoning them out briefly with precise timing. If Explosive Flame wasn't so laggy compared to Auto Reticle, I'd be using it for every match.
I used to love watching all your games, but honestly there's dozens of games I've missed over the last few months since I was really busy with school and also because my region uses default, so while watching your games was still useful, they were much less so than previously. (I still watched the tourny's final rounds live though!).

I was sad to see you struggle against denti's diddy even with customs (it's funny how diddy is still a good character despite the nerfs; his design is just really strong), but it's awesome that you beat Denti and bopped Awestin and didn't drop to losers at all (well until GF but w/e lol)! Congrats! It was also interesting to see you using different customs for different MUs. It was nice seeing good ole teleport.

Anyway happy to hear you are still interested in staying with Palutena, I will look forward excitedly to your future games using default! For my tournies I've still been studying mostly only your older palu games using only default (~January) haha. I'm also happy to see that the smash team is still balancing/redesigning characters, and there's a good chance they will continue to do so for at least a few more months (especially since "several" more DLC characters are to come).
 
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