Official Hyrule Hangout - Sheik Social

[Darksilver77]

Firstly sorry for posting this on the sheik character discussion page. Im still new to the forum. So will be more careful in future.

Secondly, cheers for watching and giving me your input. Im still improving with Sheik so im glad to see you enjoyed the vid.

Thanks

 

[WondrousMoose]

So here's something cool.

I got my Shiek Amiibo (<3) yesterday and have spent a good bit of time training her up. Something I've noticed is that it's a great way to point out the little things that I do wrong, like trying to force an up smash or not chasing off-stage. What was especially telling was when we both threw grenades at each other at the same time. I was trying to do a longer bouncing fish, and I had screwed up enough to make her think that it was something I wanted her to learn.

 

[Tristan_win]

So here's something cool.

I got my Shiek Amiibo (<3) yesterday and have spent a good bit of time training her up. Something I've noticed is that it's a great way to point out the little things that I do wrong, like trying to force an up smash or not chasing off-stage. What was especially telling was when we both threw grenades at each other at the same time. I was trying to do a longer bouncing fish, and I had screwed up enough to make her think that it was something I wanted her to learn.

lol, it's going to be funny when it starts killing it's self off stage after failed BF's. If I had a Sheik Amiibo I would never use side B and if I ever did I would immediately wipe all it's memory and start teaching it again.

 

[G-Guy]

Hello,

I saw a Sheik amiibo yesterday at my local electronics store so I decided to pick it up and start playing Sheik.

Wow, I really missed out! The speed, rushdown and combo potential is just insane and every KO feels like the result of honest work, therefore it's so satisfying to score one.

I guess I stick around with Sheik for a little while :-)

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Hi! Welcome to the boards man; enjoy the stay.

On another note, I finally came through and won a tournament today beating LeoHeart, True Blue, 8bitman, Nick Riddle and MVD twice in GF. I was actually able to play "theory" Sheik for this period of time so it was neat having access to the best character in the game. It was also an endurance run because the last 5 sets were all 3-2 wins so 25 matches of theory Sheik.

The lame part though, no videos were saved "my fault but I was literally coming apart from stress from theory Sheik so I forgot lol" and there wasn't a stream so that option isn't there either.

I now need a nap. My head hurts.

 

[ArikadoSD]

@ #HBC | Scary what the hell is theory sheik lol

 

[RenoInMO]

Picked up sheik as a full on main a little while ago, and I struggle to be able to kill opponents. Have lost some pretty disappointing matches because of it. I also struggle heavily against little Mac, and I know I shouldn't be. Any tips people are willing to throw out I'd very much appreciate.

 

[ArikadoSD]

Picked up sheik as a full on main a little while ago, and I struggle to be able to kill opponents. Have lost some pretty disappointing matches because of it. I also struggle heavily against little Mac, and I know I shouldn't be. Any tips people are willing to throw out I'd very much appreciate.

You gotta have a good baiting game sometimes. Fthrow, jump (short hop), fast fall and try to sweetspot with Usmash, it kills pretty early (in sheik's standards anyway).. dthrow into vanish (after jumping) can work too, or dthrow to uair, but sometimes you gotta bait the air dodge.

edgeguarding is also one of sheik's best ways of killing. bouncing fishes off-stage are also amazing.

for little mac, use needles, juggle him, don't be afraid to take your distance, and most of the time you won't need to use your smash attacks. gimping mac is like ridiculously easy and all you gotta do is watch for the counters.

 

[ArikadoSD]

sorry to double post but,

@ Tristan_win bro, I was messing around the other day on for glory and managed to pull off a fthrow -> fair -> quick fall uair to spike and then managed to sneak another grab, so it works like chaingrabbing. identical to the combo pulled off by nietono here.

would this be worth looking into? I don't really have much time to test but I thought it was pretty interesting. If not then I'll test it myself when I'm free next week.

edit: ok I quickly tested it, kinda doesn't work at all lol.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

@ #HBC | Scary what the hell is theory sheik lol

So theory Sheik, is a mythical creature that uses every ability that we know of to the fullest of ability. Theory Sheik is the best character in this game but it's such a stress to access this character.

 

[Wasserwipf]

So theory Sheik, is a mythical creature that uses every ability that we know of to the fullest of ability. Theory Sheik is the best character in this game but it's such a stress to access this character.

If you went to game 5 in ever match you probably either weren't playing theory Sheik to her fullest extend or not playing her all the time. Theory Sheik should not loose a single match. Probably.
Still awesome hearing you doing this. I'm looking forward to seeing some of this theory sheik in the future.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I mean, I can still lose to good reads lmao.

 

[Tristan_win]

sorry to double post but,

@ Tristan_win bro, I was messing around the other day on for glory and managed to pull off a fthrow -> fair -> quick fall uair to spike and then managed to sneak another grab, so it works like chaingrabbing. identical to the combo pulled off by nietono here.

would this be worth looking into? I don't really have much time to test but I thought it was pretty interesting. If not then I'll test it myself when I'm free next week.

edit: ok I quickly tested it, kinda doesn't work at all lol.

The video helped a lot, when you did your quick testing were you trying to hit with Fair weak hit box or strong? Because from the look's of it in the video weak is happening. It makes me wonder if it's possible to constantly get weak hit fair's into uair from dthrow or toward DI fthrow.

Such mastery would be amazing and would increased combo's damage by 4% but I can see it being fairly difficult to do constantly.

 

[alightbulb]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJHhL4u4hNk&list=UUoO44S7nOjXkaKFyHFRyP7g

I just made a video describing an up-b to upsmash combo, hope it helps.

 

[Tristan_win]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJHhL4u4hNk&list=UUoO44S7nOjXkaKFyHFRyP7g

I just made a video describing an up-b to upsmash combo, hope it helps.

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You trolling?

 

[?.?]

I mean technically it is a combo... Just a really really bad and unreliable one that is by no means competition worthy lol.

 

[ArikadoSD]

https://gfycat.com/OilySpottedArieltoucan

SWWWWEEEEET

(that's me playing)

 

[iLLEST]

SWWWWEEEEET

(that's me playing)

its a lot easier for me to land BF from ledge grab.. i feel like its a BF from the matrix lol.

 

[Ekans647]

Hey Sheik Thread! I'm Ekans. I've been playing Sheik for a while and am confident with how well I picked her up. However, I'm looking to improve my Sheik even more. I believe there is a Sheik AT guide somewhere. Do you know where I'd find that? I lok forward to becoming a member of the community here.

 

[?.?]

Hey Sheik Thread! I'm Ekans. I've been playing Sheik for a while and am confident with how well I picked her up. However, I'm looking to improve my Sheik even more. I believe there is a Sheik AT guide somewhere. Do you know where I'd find that? I lok forward to becoming a member of the community here.

Well if you back up to the sheik forum overview you'll find a stickied thread which is exactly what you need... In addition I recommend checking out Tristans list of good posts (which you'll also find stickied). Welcome to sheik and the best board ever.

Edit: turns out that AT thread was unstickied and linked in Tristans thread... My bad. Here are the two links respectively

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...ed-techniques-combos-and-tricks-wii-u.371988/

http://smashboards.com/threads/sheikah-catalog-time-to-step-up-your-game.387205/

 

[ArikadoSD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DV4ukUHlQ

the trailer for a local tournament I'm going to next saturday... playing as Sheik of course lol.

 

[Ekans647]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DV4ukUHlQ

the trailer for a local tournament I'm going to next saturday... playing as Sheik of course lol.

Save some replay's I'd love to see how good Sheik players play.

So I've been having a lot of trouble KO'ing with Sheik. I know she's a quick character and isn't supposed to be KO'ing early, but I just can't seem to get one, especially against heavyweights like Bowser.

 

[Jaxas]

Save some replay's I'd love to see how good Sheik players play.

So I've been having a lot of trouble KO'ing with Sheik. I know she's a quick character and isn't supposed to be KO'ing early, but I just can't seem to get one, especially against heavyweights like Bowser.

Kill setups (Things like Dtilt -> Uair, Fair->BF?, Needles->BF) seem to be the most important thing by far; learn when they kill, and learn them well.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

You pretty much need a hard read or a situational set up to actually get kills, or just get them to high enough %s that they die to just about anything anyways lol. The last one is a bit riskier due to rage though. Generally most of your kills will come from edgeguarding though, but i've found baiting airdodges out of fthrow above platforms(and sometimes without) can help you hit the earlier killing moves like usmash and fsmash. If you do it above a platform and they airdodge they get the full landing lag of it which leaves a lot of room to get a fsmash or to land on the platform for an fsmash(mostly just useful for the SV platform when it's close to a blast zone).

 

[Ekans647]

Kill setups (Things like Dtilt -> Uair, Fair->BF?, Needles->BF) seem to be the most important thing by far; learn when they kill, and learn them well.

How do you set-up Needles --> BF? Do you have a video of it?

 

[Dyce]

You need to full hop and press b at about the same time. It's a true combo at higher percentages. Works decently if they shield and don't expect a bouncing fish follow up.

 

[Ekans647]

You need to full hop and press b at about the same time. It's a true combo at higher percentages. Works decently if they shield and don't expect a bouncing fish follow up.

Is there a guide for this? Do I have to angle the Bouncing Fish?

 

[Dyce]

For the most part, if you're close enough to Full Hop Needle and it attacks them, a Bouncing Fish right after should be properly spaced. I've tried this on many characters, short and tall, light and heavy.

 

[Ekans647]

For the most part, if you're close enough to Full Hop Needle and it attacks them, a Bouncing Fish right after should be properly spaced. I've tried this on many characters, short and tall, light and heavy.

I tried doing this, but I could never find an opening to use it. Is there a video of this?

 

[WondrousMoose]

I tried doing this, but I could never find an opening to use it. Is there a video of this?

1:50 is so beautiful. There's nothing quite like Mr. R or False playing Sheik.

 

[Ekans647]

1:50 is so beautiful. There's nothing quite like Mr. R or False playing Sheik.

Oh wow. That's amazing, I'll definety work on that. So it's FH Needles --> BF, right?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Doesn't have to be full hop it just has to be aerial needles without you landing on the ground. FH needles is just the normal way to go about it.

 

[Darksilver77]

Hey everyone,

I went on eventhubs and looked up the sheik match up list and it says Olimar is no.2

My friends olimar gives me trouble sometimes as he throws the pikmin onto me to rack up damage and at times negate needle pressure and sometimes approaching is difficult as he can just throw a pikmin to stop me dashing.

Any tips on fighting Olimar mains?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Don't listen to anything on Eventhubs for Smash info lol. No clue how to fight Oli myself tho.

 

[ArikadoSD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DV4ukUHlQ

the trailer for a local tournament I'm going to next saturday... playing as Sheik of course lol.

Scored 2nd in that tournament. Lost to a pretty good fox that knocked me to the loser's bracket and then won in grand finals :/ I did manage to reset the bracket at the end though, but lost at the 2nd bo5, 3-1.

sucks to get 2nd place man

 

[?.?]

Look at it this way, you were the 2nd best there... That means you don't have much ground to cover to be the best... Just suck it up and learn from it :D. But yeah I know what you mean, I've gotten 2nd a few times and it doesn't feel good.

 

[ArikadoSD]

These are the grandfinals: http://www.twitch.tv/brianvondoom/b/630874446

I was doing so well in the first set but then I choked pretty badly :/

I recognize some of my mistakes and I feel like I rolled a bit too much, and more than I'm used to lol

(if you're gonna comment on popping the balloon then I was hoping I'd catch fox off-guard with the 2nd kick of bouncing fish but I got punished hard for attempting that once @_@)

 

[?.?]

Pretty impressive stuff bro, looks like there's a face in Ireland to keep an eye out for... And nah I've actually used that approach a few times, of course only on newer players... About choking, my first few matches in any tournament are pretty shi*** and then I realize I'm having fun and start bodying people. That of course usually results in a loss of my 2nd set which blows but the point is learning what causes your choking is important. Ever since I learned that I choke under the startup of adrenaline I've been practicing just having fun my first few matches (don't take as seriously). Look forward to seeing more of your sets in the future.

 

[sGale]

Posting these here since the video thread is kinda dead ;.; http://smashboards.com/threads/shei...thread-155-videos.368936/page-4#post-18659756

 

[Diddy Kong]

Impa is still better.