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IrArby
Smash Ace
If your hitting with the tip it works best especially the back of it (behind you) which has more range. With lvl 9s you'll have alot of trouble pulling off most combos because they have perfect DI and get out of hitstun from your attacks as fast as the game will allow which is why they Up B out of you spike.
That being said, if your looking to play marth competitively with advanced techs you'll want to practice your combos on lvl 1s. No more than lvl 3 probably.
That being said, if your looking to play marth competitively with advanced techs you'll want to practice your combos on lvl 1s. No more than lvl 3 probably.
elvenarrow3000
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Also, at lower percentages the stun from the spike isn't long enough to kill them. It'll definitely kill everyone at about forty or sixty percent though, depending on their falling speed.
I.B
Smash Lord
Not Sheik XD
Proverbs
Smash Lord
I don't believe spikes can be meteor-cancelled. That's why they're not meteor smashes, they're spikes.
Anyway, as it's been rightfully said before, don't practice on level 9's. They breed bad habits. Levels 1-3 are fine, though. Also, I heard that level 8 Game and Watches seem to play like humans. Not sure why but apparently it really throws people for a loop.
Vodage
Smash Journeyman
Yeahno if ur spike is sweetspotted properly it should work against level nines. Just don't try to spike someone at low percents! It's not going to work, whether it's a human or a CP opponent. I play against l9s too, maybe that's why I don't do soo well in tourneys X-\
puckgood
Smash Journeyman
For some reason, I've been able to spike a Young Link a few times a Lv. 9 and I barely even know how to spike. Right after his up b he has so much lag, though, so it's kinda like cheating. I'll try that GaW thing... if it works, that's kinda wierd.
the pal version of smash changed marths d air into a meteor smash, thats why it can be meteor canceled. So if this dude is from europe then thats the problem, if not then he needs more tech practice.
lvl 8 game and watches play more like humans than any other CPU, but they're still pretty far off
ynnek123
Smash Ace
cpu's jump out of meteor smashes until like 300% and up... lol
and yes, I actually tried that!!! >_>
and yes, I actually tried that!!! >_>
Proverbs
Smash Lord
Ah, I didn't know that. That's prettty lame. Marth's spike is amazing. If they're going to change Marth's spike into a meteor they should make it so Fox's shine doesn't spike at all. Good thing I live in the US.
Spiking at early percents is fine. At 50% a Samus can't recover from being spiked by Marth, and Samus has the most broken recovery in the game (she can just grapple the bottom of the stage to make it back). But for everyone else, early percents should be fine. Even if they can recover, they might not be able to react quick enough. And if they are going to try to recover, edgehog and if they're just barely going to grab the edge, roll. If they're going to go a bit above, refresh your invincibility, drop off, DJ and d-air slightly above the stage so they get spiked again. The second time they're probably not going to make it back.
elvenarrow3000
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Depends on what stage you're on. I know Sheik, Y. Link and Samus can recover from the bottom of FoD -- the latter two without a second jump.
IrArby
Smash Ace
In the PAL version Marth doesn't slide to Fox's shine so you can't waveshine combo him. Sounds like a fair trade to me between those two. Actually, the lack of waveshines on PAL Marth would ruin that matchup for Fox.
I think Shieks CG is non-existent in PAL aswell though. Still, Marth has many other less situational edgeguards. I'd worry more about getting those down first.
On a personal note, I hate edited versions of stuff. I have a really late copy of Melee that won't let you Super Bomb Jump with Link/Y.Link or use your bombs to do bomb jumps.
I think Shieks CG is non-existent in PAL aswell though. Still, Marth has many other less situational edgeguards. I'd worry more about getting those down first.
On a personal note, I hate edited versions of stuff. I have a really late copy of Melee that won't let you Super Bomb Jump with Link/Y.Link or use your bombs to do bomb jumps.
elvenarrow3000
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Yeah, I have a later version of Melee too, so no flame cancels with Bowser. That always throws me off a lot.
Ledgehop flame cancels are amazing! For Bowser, anyway. But I digress.
PAL, I think Marth falls over to Fox's shine, but in the normal version (the acronym escapes my memory) Marth slides too far anyway, providing you DI away from Fox.
Ledgehop flame cancels are amazing! For Bowser, anyway. But I digress.
PAL, I think Marth falls over to Fox's shine, but in the normal version (the acronym escapes my memory) Marth slides too far anyway, providing you DI away from Fox.
IrArby
Smash Ace
If Fox performs a perfect wavedash and follows immediately with a dash to grab it is unescapable. DIing correctly makes it very difficult and theres minimal room for error but the Fox can still pull it off.
elvenarrow3000
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I dunno... I think I saw Ken break out of that against Mew2King or something...
Retroking2000
Smash Master
either he is spiking at low percents allowing them to get back
or has PAL.
*my guess is pal
or has PAL.
*my guess is pal
Prince Of Fire
Smash Lord
Read this: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193134
I'm sure you know your question was stupid and probably a bad idea to post it. So why did you?