How to jump higher

[Supermodel From Paris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-ghyL8MBD5E#t=201s

Zss' first jump goes really high if you jump OOS after shield stun

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[#HBC | ZoZo]

You got pushed off and did a double jump.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I think thats what i saw too.

Did you have another jump or no?

 

[infiniteV115]

It wasn't a double jump. In ZSS' double jump, the animation for the rolls/flips/turns (whatever you want to call them) is longer and she does 2 of them, and it makes a different sound than a full hop.

Like, at 3:20 when he's recovering to the stage with his double jump, pay attention to the sound it makes, as well as the animation.
Then, compare it to the actual shield-stun-jump at 3:23. Different sound and animation (only 1 flip/turn/roll).
And also, her double jump doesn't go that high, so even if it WAS a double jump, it'd still have been an extended one

SFP is right, her full hop gets longer when you jump out of shield-stun. Almost useless though.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

It wasn't a double jump. In ZSS' double jump, the animation for the rolls/flips/turns (whatever you want to call them) is longer and she does 2 of them, and it makes a different sound than a full hop.

Like, at 3:20 when he's recovering to the stage with his double jump, pay attention to the sound it makes, as well as the animation.
Then, compare it to the actual shield-stun-jump at 3:23. Different sound and animation (only 1 flip/turn/roll).
And also, her double jump doesn't go that high, so even if it WAS a double jump, it'd still have been an extended one

SFP is right, her full hop gets longer when you jump out of shield-stun. Almost useless though.

If what SFP was showing us was that her initial full jump is significantly larger than her DJ OoS with hit stun, then it COULD be situationally helpful, IE shield pressure on BF and getting the **** out of there. I mean, it's almost useles like the back of ganon's uair acting as a jab reset, but when you're ganon and you AC Dair someone, and then JR with the uair, and get a free Dair to Uair, it's a free extra 30%...

 

[infiniteV115]

He was showing us that full jump out of shield stun is significantly larger than regular full jump.

In the case of shield pressure on BF, I'd say the additional height actually makes it worse. Assuming she's on one of the lower platforms, her regular full hop is already enough to get her to either the top platform or the lower platform on the other side. The additional height would just delay her landing on the other platform, making it more likely that we get juggled.

Short hop is probably the best way to go.

 

[NickRiddle]

It might have been a footstool.

 

[DeLux]

^ I was going to suggest that

 

[infiniteV115]

Can't believe I never thought of that. That definitely makes more sense.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I don't think it could have been a footstool. ROB's usmash is pretty disjointed. I dunno.

 

[infiniteV115]

You shielded it...

 

[Dakpo]

I don't think it could have been a footstool. ROB's usmash is pretty disjointed. I dunno.

It was a footstool, you can acutally footstool the entire flame of Rob's Upsmash. Go to try it. We have a rob player in my region and we make fun of how bad a move it is