How to approach a lightshielding Marth Oo

[Falcinho]

Yesterday i realized that I'm too stupid to do this so please gimme some hints.

I thought a bit about it and the best ways (i found) to come around this are:

- Spamming a bit till his shield lowers
- Doing something behing his shield
- Shieldapproach which does't work against him Oo, he just sees it coming and grabs me
- Sh --> aerial shine --> rejump --> whatever fits
- spacing bairs or sth
- sh towards him --> waveland towards him + grab or just waveland back

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Ummm... why wouldn't you just... sit back and chip at his shield with SHL?

 

[Vro]

Agreed. SHL camp his shield. When you know he's going to release, you can start shffls. Be sure to hit his shield late, l-cancel, and land behind him (optional).

 

[Falcinho]

ofc that's what i'm goin to do, but i wondered if there were any other possibilities ^_^

 

[Vro]

Those are the best possibilities. Why do something else when it works? SHFFLs and SHL are the safest and fastest approaches. Stick to them.

 

[Falcinho]

Cuz this means while his shield is full, i can't approach properly, but hey, when Marth approachs he's easier to **** ^_^

 

[Eggm]

I'd suggest not approaching it. Space lasers and f tilts. If you must you can do perfectly spaced dash jump SHL's to grab, but falcos grab combos suck not really worth the risk. Doing any type of ariel is gonna get you *****.

 

[Falcinho]

=DD <3 you eggm

yeah i guess i'll have to play a bit more like gay ^__^

 

[ThreeX]

mmhm, playing gay sometimes = win which is lame, but w/e.. hah


eggm's the marth killaaaa, his advice is too gooooood

 

[TheZhuKeeper]

Noooo don't play gay =(

Do:

nair / dair -> jab cancel
nair / dair -> land close to him -> shine -> pillar
nair / dair -> land close to him -> shine -> JC grab
laser -> grab
laser -> empty hop -> grab

Falco has lots of options! Don't camp!!! =D

 

[Vro]

Most players will mess up all the options you listed.. Marth's grab leaves very little room for error, and not everyone is as awesome as you. Camping is still the safest option. Wait for his shield to drop, then proceed to SHFFL.

 

[Falcinho]

Noooo don't play gay =(

Do:

nair / dair -> jab cancel
nair / dair -> land close to him -> shine -> pillar
nair / dair -> land close to him -> shine -> JC grab
laser -> grab
laser -> empty hop -> grab

Falco has lots of options! Don't camp!!! =D

I'd love to do this, but if his lightshield is almost full, how can I land close to him?
Is there a secret trick of secrectness? =O

Don't get me wrong, my fingers are fast enough to do this, but my shine/jab never hits him cuz his lightshield pushes me away =(

And don't worry, when his shield is low enough, I'll go on pillaring like crazy =D

<3 you too Zhu

 

[Eggm]

Everything zhu posted is shieldgrabbable by m2k. Will probably work on normal marths tho lol.

 

[Falcinho]

OK, I played him today, and the easiest way to own his is spamming fsmashes xD

It's easy to space them against a lightshield and he's too slow with wd outta shield + grab ^_^

However i also ran a bit around using the platforms to waveland and when his shield was low enough i approached him =P

btw. comboing marths is fricken funny

 

[Sssurivad]

Would jumping to shine the top of his shield, then jump cancelling it right as you hit the top and landing away work?

 

[AIDS]

let him waist his shield, laser spam, or practise multi shine while he waist his shield, problem solved.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I don't think shining the top of his shield is a good idea because that puts you without a second jump and he can jump out of shield into a uair or something like that.

You could... LHDL at him. It's pretty cool.

 

[Falcinho]

let him waist his shield, laser spam, or practise multi shine while he waist his shield, problem solved.

You mean i should taunt instead of approaching, awsome xD

Na I'm bad at multishining =/
I'll stick to lasers and plattformcoolness

thx to everybody, in 2 weeks or sth i'll probably be able to record sth, i hope you'll enjoy ;P

 

[Eggm]

Spacing f smash is fine if it hits the light shield cause light shields have added hit stun and he can't punish it, but if he reacts to f smash then does a strong shield and shield DI's towards you he'll shield grab you. Yes theres people this good. ><

 

[Falcinho]

Haha, i know it's no good solution, but when my opponent doesn't punish it, i'll spam it until he can =P

 

[TheZhuKeeper]

Everything zhu posted is shieldgrabbable by m2k. Will probably work on normal marths tho lol.

Well if the Marth is lightshielding, I don't think he'll be able to shieldgrab anything loool. Also I remember when I played you, you said for some reason you couldn't JC shine my pillars and stuff... you just do aerials slightly late and you should be fine (but then opponent could WD out of shield -> fsmash / grab / etc... freaking m2k LOL).

 

[ThreeX]

Na I'm bad at multishining =/

well what's practice for? AH HA! like he said, practice it they're campy

 

[Falcinho]

Loool, ok I'll try it ^__^

 

[Vro]

WD out of shield -> fsmash

M2K is disgusting..

 

[GI Josh]

fair the sheild, most Marth's insincts are to shield grab after the fist time a hit comes to their shield

 

[d snyde]

This is true. i play as marth and I use GI's technique to much!

 

[Falcinho]

I use it rarely but it really is the best to not approach at all =/

 

[Layupfreak]

SHL his shield. or you could always SHL approach and then dash dance into grab to upthrow. works for me all the time.

 

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