How are you using Magnet?

[GMaster171]

Fox cant cancel his jump squat with Shine, multishining is just using shine on the first few frames in the air, which causes you to stop rising and land a couple frames later, allowing you to repeat the process.

It is true that Ness can do the same, its just not effective as you have 15+ frames between hitboxes.

 

[choknater]

oh i see haha i always thought it was a shine within the jump cancel animation

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

new meta

 

[Bryonato]

looks like you are just doing multi magnet across the stage? pretty cool

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

looks like you are just doing multi magnet across the stage? pretty cool

Hold down and towards the opponent and then mash y and b like you're playing Mario Party.

 

[choknater]

haha are you the same rusty_shackleford that plays morrigan/ammy/phx in marvel??

 

[Bryonato]

Hold down and towards the opponent and then mash y and b like you're playing Mario Party.

yeah that's multimagnet. looks pretty cool dude nice vid

 

[The_NZA]

yeah that's multimagnet. looks pretty cool dude nice vid

Just to clarify though, Shiek can definitely DI away and get out of this, right?

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

haha are you the same rusty_shackleford that plays morrigan/ammy/phx in marvel??

Nope, sorry!

Just to clarify though, Shiek can definitely DI away and get out of this, right?

Yeah, probably. If you notice in that video she even hits the ground a couple times. But who knows maybe someone good could take this and make it useful.

 

[Bryonato]

I'll be playing tonight with my Ganon main friend. What a better character to test it on?

 

[nessmaster1]

There isn't, Gannon is fun vs Ness.

 

[Bryonato]

Yea Ness wins imo. It was rhetorical

 

[Kayo]

new meta

Dude, ****'s broken. Real talk though, that's so cool.

 

[choknater]

After a few months with the game, I'm only using magnet for a few things:

- horizontal combo extender. Push opponents farther in combination with fair/nair
- defensive hitbox to escape a high intensity scramble
- ledge jump magnet to djc nair/fair, as a somewhat reliable way to get up the edge quickly and with a hitbox
- recovery
- air stall while coming down to mess up an opponent's timing
- absorption, especially in matchups where the opponent is reliant on projectiles, e.g. Mario
- shield pressure

And of course, jc magnets to show off.

Situational move but I find these are definitely times it comes in handy

 

[The_NZA]

After a few months with the game, I'm only using magnet for a few things:

- horizontal combo extender. Push opponents farther in combination with fair/nair
- defensive hitbox to escape a high intensity scramble
- ledge jump magnet to djc nair/fair, as a somewhat reliable way to get up the edge quickly and with a hitbox
- recovery
- air stall while coming down to mess up an opponent's timing
- absorption, especially in matchups where the opponent is reliant on projectiles, e.g. Mario
- shield pressure

And of course, jc magnets to show off.

Situational move but I find these are definitely times it comes in handy

The only one on the list i would never do is as a Defensive hitbox, since nair is a good 3 frames faster and has just about as good coverage.

However, It is also good to use to stall offstage after you dair someone and you suspect they'll try to eat your pkt when you recover.

 

[Elion33]

If only Magnet had less start up frames...

 

[Bryonato]

Compare to Lucas' (which is arguably much more useful):

Lucas- Comes out frame 5, jc'able at frame 8; repeating hitboxes while the move is out

Ness- Comes out frame 8, jc'able at frame 11; only 1 hitbox

 

[Elion33]

Compare to Lucas' (which is arguably much more useful):

Lucas- Comes out frame 5, jc'able at frame 8; repeating hitboxes while the move is out

Ness- Comes out frame 8, jc'able at frame 11; only 1 hitbox

Also Lucas get comboes from Magnet, while Ness struggle getting follow-ups from it.
That's why I wished magnet was faster.

 

[The_NZA]

Also Lucas get comboes from Magnet, while Ness struggle getting follow-ups from it.
That's why I wished magnet was faster.

That doesn't even begin to address how Ness's magnet does 4% while Lucas's does like 8%.

I get it...moves are different, they shouldn't be compared in a vaccum, but how are you going to make ness's slower than all his aerials, only good for basic combo chains, and still make it tack on negligible amounts of percent. There's a reason falco's does 8% while fox's does 4%--because Fox's can kill, while falco's mostly just combos.

As always we got the short end of the stick....errr...bat.