How about Mia for Brawl?

[Dark Sonic]

I really like Swordmasters (despite them being arguably the worst class in the game), but Mia would'nt be that great for brawl. By the way the Wo Dao is not a unique sword. It can be used by any swordmaster and in the case of FE7 it can also be used by Blade Lords. Lyn would make a much better choice to represent the swordmaster and would be a nice female addition to smash bros. Lyn is even included in the Myrmadon/Swordmaster group for the swordslayer. Nowere in its description does it say that it's good against Blade Lords, but the programers decided include Lyn's class in the effective bonus group anyway. She's basically a swordmaster with bows instead of a crit bonus. She's also a Lord and thus much more important than Mia.

I also heard that swordmasters once had a 30% crit bonus, but they cut it down to 15% because it was too broken.

Spoiler

Good thing that thier third teir class in FE10 gives them a 20 crit bonus and a 40 skill and speed cap.

 

[y3nia659]

There is a lack of females in Smash series seeing as how they take less than 1/4 of the roster's size...I like Mia, but I think major characters are better choices....though we already have the icon of FE franchise I wouldn't see why not Mia...


BTW most people want lords in Brawl since they are the main characters, Mia is a sidekick...seeing as how all the Lords are the heroes and that wouldn't be too much variation or originality, I think it's dull to have all lords....bring in the Damsels in Distress, Villains and sidekicks...different power classes not all lords...I would love a Pegasus Knight, especially Florina in Brawl..

 

[DNA13]

swordmasters roxors! all u have to do is give one vantage, an hp booster, and a killer weapon, then watch as they mow down basically any closeranged opponent.

 

[RWB]

Swordslayer is super against mercs and heroes too.

30 crit wasn't broken, but IS thought it was.

"swordmasters roxors! all u have to do is give one vantage, an hp booster, and a killer weapon, then watch as they mow down basically any closeranged opponent."

Giving them all that? What a waste. Give the vantage skill to a warrior. Silver axe warrior(Boyd) can kill many things in a single blow. And even if he doesn't, he'll likely double. The swordmaster might not even kill the enemy off even if they critical.

Actually, give Vantage to a magic user. Swordmaster can hardly wield 1-2 ranged weapons, meaning a magic user will have much greater use for it. Plus they have greater damage output. Lets discuss this on a FE-forum instead, m'kay?

 

[Dark Sonic]

30 crit for the class+15 crit for max skill+5 crit for S ranked weapon+5-25 crit for supports=75% base critical hit rate. At that point critical hits become a reliable strategy rather than just a bonus. That 75% crit is with a silver sword and is likely as high as the Warior's regular hit rate. Now give them a Wo Dao and you'll have 110% crit. That means even if the opponent had max luck then you'd still have 80% chance to critical them.

BTW Boyd isn't that good of a character in the first place while Mia is an excelent one.

Adept+Resolve on a swordmaster=pwnage. Resolve boosts skill to 43% chance to activate adept and attack twice in a row with 36 strength. You'll already be double attacking everything and you dodge rate will be 90%+luck and supports.


And just to clarify something to all Mia fans. Soren and Titania are the side kicks in FE Path of Radiance, not Mia. Mia is an unimportant character storywise despite being a good character gameplay wise. She serves no important role whatsoever and can easily be replaced by Zihark or Stefan if you need a swordmaster.

It has already been proved that Soren with Vantage is a very good choice so that's probably who your going to give vantage to. On the other hand, Mia comes with it and she already has a decent HP growth. She will be dodging enough attacks to be on the frontlines. You could give Mia guard to complement her great skill growth.

 

[RWB]

BTW Boyd isn't that good of a character in the first place while Mia is an excelent one.

Are you trying to make me laugh? Boyd is currently the sixth on the FE9 tier list, not to mention he is the best warrior in FE history. Mia is number eight from the end of the list, and is considered the worst Swordmaster in FE9 except Lucia, who is a bottom tier. Vantage is the only good thing about Mia. I could put the tier list up here, if you want. *edit: did so.

Adept+Resolve on a swordmaster=pwnage. Resolve boosts skill to 43% chance to activate adept and attack twice in a row with 36 strength. You'll already be double attacking everything and you dodge rate will be 90%+luck and supports.

Vantage+ Resolve on boyd with hand axe= Everything dead in one hit, except dragons, Ashnard, Naesala and BK. And it's not like the swordmasters are better off anyway, since the dragons has at least 150 hit.


Edit:

Here comes the FE9 tier list.

-Top-
Titania
Jill
Kieran
Oscar
Reyson

-High-
Boyd
Ike
Soren
Makalov
Marcia
Mist
Astrid
Tanith
Brom
Muarim
Nephenee

-Upper Mid-
Zihark
Stefan
Volke
Geoffrey
Mordecai
Tormod
Ilyana
Tauroneo
Rhys

-Lower Mid-
Calill
Largo
Ranulf
Haar
Gatrie
Sothe
Devdan
Nasir
Lethe
Ena

-Low-
Mia
Ulki
Rolf
Janaff
Shinon

-Bottom-
Elincia
Lucia
Bastian

 

[Dark Sonic]

I know that Boyd is a great warrior. I just really don't like wariors and thus don't like boyd.
Exactly what is the tier list based on because I don't consider Reyson top tier. I base my opinions of characters based on combat performance first and then utility. The way I see it, Soren would be near the top due to his high Mag,SPD,SKL,RES, his support with Ike, and his starting skill adept. Reyson would be more middle tier in my list due to the low move and inability to fight. Reyson will also not be helping in the support area much due to the fact that he'll be close to the back of your party.

Yes dragons have 150 hit, but Mia has about 20 luck in addition to 45 speed with resolve giving her 110 avoid. That leaves the dragon with 40% chance to hit me.

FE9 isn't exactly the best place for swordmasters though because the enemies have higher hit rates and thus will have decent chances of hitting them. When I say decent, I mean between 40 and 60.

 

[RWB]

Well, Tanith easily reaches 110 avoid with her Oscar support. Does that make her superb? No. What gives her high position is Reinforce. And the fact that she isn't underleveled.

The positioning? Mostly based on usefulness+combat ability. If it were just pure stats, Makalov and Jill would be competing for first place.

Soren is close to the top, smart guy. XD

 

[Dark Sonic]

Even if Tanith could reach 110 avoid, Mia is doing that without supports and can be left by herself if neccessary. I actually think that resolve would go better on Zihark though because it increases skill and thus increases his chance for adept to activate. I once gave him a brave sword to fight a dragon and he attacked 6 times in the battle (twice before the dragon attacked due to the brave sword and 4 times after due to both the brave sword and adept.)

Yeah, but I'm saying Soren and Ike should be top tier because of their amazing stats. They also have a great support with each other and great skills. I don't see exactly how Titania is higher than Ike and how reyson is even in the top tier. I agree that he should be pretty high up, but I'd place him near the lower end of High tier. I also think Boyd doesn't belong higher than Ike or Soren. He gets beaten by both of them in terms of stats and usefullness. Soren doubles as a healer and Ike has amazing supports and Aether so why is Boyd above them?

 

[RWB]

Boyd has better stats than Ike and Soren, best weapon type in the game, Second best damage output in the game, and 1-2 range. Aether is greatly overrated, and Vantage on Boyd>>>Aether on Ike...

Soren+Ike isn't that good. Ike+Oscar>>>Ike+Soren. And Stefan has the worst possible bonuses...

And Boyd is likely the best choice for resolve, 45 str+10mt=55dam. brave weapon means this can knock out a dragon before it even can hit... and with more than 32 spd, he will double...

Reyson has the same attacking power as 1-4 other units. He also heals your units.

Titania is your best unit for 2/3 of the game, not to mention that these are the harder thirds.... how is she not top tier?
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Mia has 81 avoid at average without any bonuses. Tanith has 75 avoid. Mia gets 111 avoid with resolve, tanith gets 115 with her best choice for a support(Oscar, a top tier). Mias best support bonuses is with Rhys(who isn't nearly as good as oscar.)

Add resolve to Tanith: 141 avoid. Mia can't touch that. Only Oscar is capable of getting close, 140 avoid(with Resolve, Ike and Tanith support)

Tanith has better defensive stats than Mia, and superior offense(due to lances).
She has 1-2 range, one of the best skills in the game, doesn't come underlevelled(unlike Mia), superior movement, move again-ability, terrain ignore-capacity... Do I need to go on? if you don't give any of them bonuses... Mia just cannot compare. She has vantage and a 6 avoid lead if you don't give any of the two any bonuses. And with most of the enemies being lanceusers, Mia will have worse avoid than Tanith. With bonuses, Tanith gets even more superior...
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[Dark Sonic]

Yes Ike+Oscar is better than Ike+Soren, but why not just use all three of them.

I didn't use Titania much because she gained to little experience early on and when my other units reached a respectable level she was behind in stats.

It may be personal experience talking, but Boyd has never beaten my Ike in terms of stats. Ike maxes STR,SKL,SPD, and DEF. He also gets decent luck and more resistance than Boyd. Ike may have less strength due to a lower cap and a little less HP, but he still beats Boyd in SPD,SKL,DEF,RES, and Luck. It doen't look to me like Boyd is winning. Aether is much better than Vantage because it heals you, meaning that I can focus my attention on someone else while Ike is soloing his whole side of the map.
Soren beats Boyd out in SPD,SKL, and RES(obviously) and loses in HP,DEF and they're tied in luck. I would have mention Magic and Strength, but they've both got a lot in what they'll be attacking with. You could argue that Soren loses spd for his low strength, but he doesn't need anything more than a D rank tome to be an offensive powerhouse due to his overkill magic.

Reyson only heals them if they're next to him at the start of the turn (which is unlikely because you just used him to make them move.) He may be able to reanimate 4 units in his transformed state, but he takes a while to get there and my army moves to fast for him to keep up.

 

[RWB]

Soren vs Boyd? Boyd kills Soren as a unit.

Offense: The enemies difference between res och def is about 4(close combat).

Soren has 36 mt with Elthunder, the strongest D spell. It weighs him down by 2, leaving him with 23 spd(if he uses anything stronger, Boyd will trumph him in spd).

(Actually, if this just about how good they are on their final levels, Tormod would be the best magic user.)

Boyd has 42 mt on 1-2 range(Tomahawk), and 46 in close range(not counting forged weapons). He has 23 spd on average.

Skl won't matter much, Boyd almost always have wta.

Supports can give Boyd up to 4 more attack. Soren gets 1 attack at most(which is the least amount Boyd can get). If you feel his hit is to low(It's not), he can get 15 hit throgh a single support.

Winner: Boyd

Defensive:
Soren has 39 hp and 10 def, 28 res on average. Sorens res is great, but the amount of enemy magic users is laughable.

Boyd has 59 hp and 16 def, 11 res on average. Boyd is thus MUCH more durable.

Boyd can get 2 def/res from supports.

Winner: Boyd

Avoid: Soren has 66 without anything added or subtracted. With Elthunder, this becomes 62.
Boyd has 63 without anything added or subtracted.

Sorens avoid will reach 91 with the Ike AND Stefan support.
Boyd's supports doesn't give avoid. But Resolve is likely, and with that: 85. add the fact that Boyd has a WTA most of the time and it's 95.

Winner: Soren by very little, and without supports, Boyd.


Other things:
Boyd joins earlier
Boyd isn't underlevelled.
Boyd has a better weapon choice(Axes=best weapons, Wind is the worst except bows)
Boyd has better movement
Soren has Adept. Not much a bonus though.

Winner: Boyd by miles.

I'll do Ike vs Boyd later.

 

[Dark Sonic]

How many Tomahawks do you get. You also don't get resolve until 3 chapters before the game is over, so resolve only counts for three chapters of the game. Soren gets adept from the start and with his good Skl growth it's a great skill to have. Boyd gets tempest, which will likely be removed because it's just a bad skill.

Boyd's supports suck not because of the bonuses, but because of the characters he supports with. Mist will likely be nowhere near Boyd on the enemy's turn, which is when he'll be in battle the most. Ulki is a bad character and Brom doesn't have enough move to keep up with Boyd. The only support option left is Titania which gives you one attack one defense and 15 hit. His support phails. Why give Soren elthunder when you could give him elwind and have him double attack. Soren will also have a 28% chance to activate adept, meaning every four attacks or so it will activate. Sorens dealing more damage because he's attacking more. Winner Soren.

Fire is considered the worst, not wind. Wind is light enough for Soren to take advantage of his speed. The average enemy has very low resistance so he doesn't need any heavy tomes. Elwind is inexpensive and will give him all the power he needs. Axes are considered the best weapon in FE, but it will take quite a while for Boyd to reach an A in axes to let him use silvers while Soren starts off with a D in the first place. Soren will have access to his most valuable tome from the start, while Boyd will have to deal with steel for quite a while.

I'm still trying to find Boyd's average stats. Could you post them up so that I can compare them?

Tormod vs. Soren

FE Averages: HP Str Mag Skl Spd Def Res Luck
Tormod: 40.0 10.4 25.3 23.7 25.1 14.0 25.1 19.2
Soren: 39.1 3.9 28.7 27.7 24.9 9.7 27.5 16.4
Soren loses in HP by 0.9(rounded up to 1),STR by 6.5(rounded up to 7),DEF by 4.1(rounded down to 4), SPD by 0.2(negligable), and Luck by 2.8(rounded to 3). Soren wins in Mag by 3.4, SKL by 4, and RES by 2.4. I'll give Tormod the wins in terms of stats.

Supports
Tormod may have a good affinity, but he doesn't have that great of a support pool to work with. According to your tier list, all of his supports are lower mid except for Reyson. You could say that Reyson would be a good support, except how often is Reyson near the front line to give Tormod that support? And with Tormod's 8 move, will he really be anywhere near Reyson?
Soren on the other hand has Ike, which is all he really needs. Ike gets his B with Oscar and his A with Soren which gives the group 3 high tier units with Ike as the untouchable.
Now lets see them in actual combat.
Soren wields elthunder and has an Attack power of 36 with an attack SPD of 23
with supports he has an attack power of 37.
Tormod wields thoron and has an Attack power of 35 with an attack SPD of 25
Only gets Reyson but it does make his attack 38 so he wins here, if you were to somehow keep Reyson close enough to help Tormod without endangering either of them
Soren has an average of 66 avoid+22 for his A support with Ike
Tormod has an average of 69 avoid and doesn't get any from supports. Soren wins here
Tormod wins in defense by 4 so he can take more hits than Soren, but Soren will be taking less hits.
Tormod comes with Fire magic (which is considered the worst Magic in FE 9, not wind) While Soren comes with wind (which is good for it's low weight and high acurracy.) Both of them will likely be converted to thunder mages, but Tormod comes much later and Soren will likely already be promoted, giving him a D in thunder magic on promotion. Soren wins.

 

[RWB]

Well, Soren can't keep up with Ike and Stefan. So he is to no use. Kinda bad argument there, Brom has the same movement as Soren, and Boyd has the same as Ike. Brom is better than Stefan, and Ike prefers Oscar to Soren. Boyd has the edge there, plus his bonuses are better. Mist is just as likely on the frontline as Soren after promo(Better evade, Better Def, and likely a magic sword.), and is the best healer in the game.

Handaxe Boyd>Soren with Elwind or Elthunder most of the game(Elwind is weak and too heavy, Elthunder is just too heavy). And in the end, when they are at their best, Soren loses horribly.

Boyd will in general do more damage in two blows than Soren does with three. And Soren doesn't even have 33% chance for adept....
Boyd has the second best damage output in the game for his level.

Wind is the worst, it has terrible mt, even if doubled, it doesnt beat thunder for damage. It's only good for Soren because of his high mag and low str, so he can't use anything else. and tormod is best of wielding the thunder tomes.

Saying Fire is worse than Wind is almost like saying Swords>Lances.

Tormod is superior to Soren in the END, due to Rexbolt. But Soren is better throughout rest of the game. I already said that.

Ike untouchable? Oscar is more of an evader.


But really, go discuss this here instead: http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/st...how_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-35281449&pid=920189

 

[Dark Sonic]

Elwind has one less might than elfire and yet 3 less wieght. Tornado only wieghs 5. Wind magic is the opposite of heavy.

In FE7 lances were the worst weapons in the triangle because of the many axe users. Now there's more lance users so swords are the worst of the triangle. Magic, however, often doesn't have to deal with the triangle because they often attack physical units. Fire magic is as heavy as thunder magic with less might. Bolganone is 2 points heavier than Thoron with 3 less might. Wind magic is extemely light wieght and only one or two points weaker than fire. That's a nice trade off IMO. Fire magic=Phail.

I see your point about Tormod being better at the end though. I forgot all about Rexbolt because it's so freakin' heavy. That tome still wieghs him down by 4 though and he'll likely have trouble double attacking.

I said Soren has a 28% chance for adept. Don't know where you got 33% from. 28% is one in four. Pretty nice considering what it does.

Lol at Boyd doing more damage in two hits than Soren does in three. That's quite an exageration don't you think. Enemies have crappy resistance, but their defence isn't nearly as bad.

Check this place out in case you don't know it already (though I think that you probably do)

http://www.velthomer.net/forums/index.php?&&CODE=00

It's where I'm getting most of my opinion from. FESS rules!

 

[RWB]

21 spd= Problem doubling? You're kidding, right?

The tier list is discussed on Gamespot(ironically by FESSmembers. XD)

And yes, I do know of FESS.


Laguz(cept Ravens), Generals, Wyvern knights and Berserkers have about 10 more def than res... Magic users are the opposite. Bishops have 21 more res than def. O_o

All other units are within the 3-7 spectrum.

This is only lategame tho'. Early-mid game, all units are within the 3-7 spectrum.

Boyds mt advantage will be 7(iron axe) before Soren get's his chance on thunder(and by then, Boyd can wield Steel and effectivity weapons nicely). Boyd is weighed down by his Iron axe and Soren is weighed down by his Wind spell.

When Boyd gets steel and Soren Elthunder, they will be above level 14(likely)

Soren is close to Boyd here, 4 mt behind. He loses 5 AS however, compared to Boyd losing 2. and in two levels, boyd has on average done away with his AS loss. While Sorens speed is still about 10 with Elthunder.

But then Forged steel comes into the mix. Forged steel has 16 mt, beating elthunder out by 9 mt.

After promotion( Level 20/1) Boyd will have a 11 mt advantage, plus likely weapon advantage(+1).

Soren has 25 mt, enemies in general have about 10 res. meaning 3 hits=about 45 damage
Boyd has 36 mt, enemies in general have 14-16 def . About 40-44 damage(41-45 with WTA).

You were right. Adept-Soren does a little more damage. But not by much, and without it he isn't even close. And by this time, Adept has 20% chance of activating. I'll say boyd has a large advantage in offense.

Later(about 20/10),

Boyd has Silver and forged silver, Giving him a mt advantage about 16(his str advantage included). considering the enemies by this time have about 6 more def than res, Boyd is doing way more damage. And soren is still slowed down by 3, keeping him behind Boyd in AS.

Boyd has 46 mt. Soren has 31. the enemies in general have about 20 def, or 14 res.

This means: two hits from Boyd= about 50 damage, three hits from soren=a little more.

At maximum, Boyd still has the edge.

This is not taking Boyds mt-heightening supports into account.


http://reikken.awardspace.com/FE9EnemyStats.php Enemy Stats

http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=boyd&game=9e Boyds averages
http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=soren&game=9e Sorens Averages

 

[Diddy Kong]

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Wow I'm suprised! Titania, the "Jeigan" character is actually the very best character in the game? O_O; Okay, she's a good pre-promote but THAT good? And yeah, Boyd rules! But I still don't get why Ike is so low... Not that I expected him to be the best, but... Hmmm strange.

 

[Zeela12]

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Wow I'm suprised! Titania, the "Jeigan" character is actually the very best character in the game? O_O; Okay, she's a good pre-promote but THAT good?

yeah... that's exactly what I thought when I saw that...

ANYWAYS GOING BACK ON TOPIC: Mia personaly I think is a very nicely desgined charater and would be a very nice addition to brawl, HOWEVER, no matter how you look at it, Erika from FE 8 will always have a higher chance than Mia due to the fact that they both are sword users, and female charaters, but Erika is a main charater while Mia is not.

 

[Tedius Zanarukando]

Masahiro Sakurai is not entirely against Japan-only characters, given the success of Fire Emblem characters Marth and Roy. Mia is a no-count representative of the Swordmaster class, while Ayra is the best representative of that class. Mia brings no flair or nostalgia to the SSB series, but Ayra does. Ayra has holy blood (being a descendant of Odo) while Mia has no holy blood. Ayra is the best example of what a Swordmaster should be.

 

[DNA13]

this has gotta be the 3rd tim that this thread has been bumped after a week or so...

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Mia's cute, I like her, AND she's on Sakurai's character Poll, so why not?

 

[Hong]

Even though I prefer Mia over Lyn from 8, Lyn deserves a spot more to better represent the series. Though I definately won't argue with having just Mia.

 

[Kirby knight]

If Mia got in over Lyndis, I think I'd pull my hair out. x_x

And besides people want Ike(confirmed) Black Knight?, Mia? I mean come on that's way to much represention for one FE game (I mean theres 10 of them)

 

[Hong]

Yeah. I rather have Black Knight before Mia any day.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Yeah. I rather have Black Knight before Mia any day.

Yeah, same here. Still, doesn't the Black Knight seem a bit... de-mobilized? You know, with all that armor?

Whereas Mia is quick and speedy and such...

I think you know where I'm trying to get at.

 

[Nergal]

Here's Mia since the other pics failed.

 

[Hong]

Yeah, same here. Still, doesn't the Black Knight seem a bit... de-mobilized? You know, with all that armor?

Whereas Mia is quick and speedy and such...

I think you know where I'm trying to get at.

Well, Black Knight isn't slow, but Mia is definately much quicker and fights entirely different. I'm just saying that because having three FE 9-10 reps is completely unnecessary.

Edit - I don't like that one picture of Mia because her hair colour is actually purple..

The second one is directly from Fire Emblem 10.

 

[shadenexus18]

Yeah. I rather have Black Knight before Mia any day.

This is the truth of truths, but why can't we have them both hmmm?

 

[Hong]

This is the truth of truths, but why can't we have them both hmmm?

As I said in my previous post, having three Fire Emlem characters from Tellius is uneccessary. We got Ike as the protagonist then Black Knight as the second seat/predominant antagonist. As much as I like Mia and her character, it wouldn't do the series justice to have three characters from those two titles. That and Lyn can also use a Bow which could add up to three different moveset possibilities. :/

 

[Dokuro]

mia is cuter, mia wins.

lyn probably deserves it more, though.

 

[shadenexus18]

As I said in my previous post, having three Fire Emlem characters from Tellius is uneccessary. We got Ike as the protagonist then Black Knight as the second seat/predominant antagonist. As much as I like Mia and her character, it wouldn't do the series justice to have three characters from those two titles. That and Lyn can also use a Bow which could add up to three different moveset possibilities. :/

Ah, well....that explains everything. Still though, I wouldn't mind seeing them both.

Well how about Eliwood to take Roy's spot in Brawl?

 

[ClamKillRoy]

Well, it's always a slight possibility since the rumored ranks of characters are in the high double digits. I think that Eliwood may replace Roy in that more people would recognize Eliwood. Sadly, I'd still prefere Roy. As far as Mia goes, I think she'd make an interesting character, but I think that the arguments that that'd be too many from one game stands as a testament for disapproval. Black Knight wasn't all that cool in my opinion. Oh well, better than saying Jill or Soren, haha. (No offense Jill/Soren fans).

 

[Hong]

Well how about Eliwood to take Roy's spot in Brawl?

There is next to no love for Roy or Eliwood by Fire Emblem fans. Most of the Roy fans liked him from Melee and not FE6. I don't think anyone would want that.
I say Ike, Black Knight and Lyn (preferably Mia) even though they all have swords. xD

 

[ClamKillRoy]

Although, Oscar would be fun to add in as well, haha. But...how would one fight with a lance? Besides, I don't think that Oscar built up enough fame sadly.

 

[shadenexus18]

There is next to no love for Roy or Eliwood by Fire Emblem fans. Most of the Roy fans liked him from Melee and not FE6. I don't think anyone would want that.
I say Ike, Black Knight and Lyn (preferably Mia) even though they all have swords. xD

But but but Lundis san! Eliwood is my pride n joy of Fire Emblem heros! Sakurai.....Sakurai has just gotta add em! It's not if Eliwood has noooo chance whatsoever! He can make it on the roster for sure!

 

[lcampoy8]

i would rather have Lyn than mia or maybe a assassin like jaffar or maybe that one guy from FE 9

 

[Hong]

i would rather have Lyn than mia or maybe a assassin like jaffar or maybe that one guy from FE 9

You mean Volke? Volkes cool, but he intentionally has next to no character. The guy doesn't show emotion and speaks in minimal words.

While I don't think being on the poll is 100% necessary to appear in Brawl, those characters are at least acknowledge by Sakurai and acceptable. It's not worth hoping for random allies to appear outside of Assist Trophies.

 

[Sinn]

I want the Swordmaster class represented in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but with Ayra (aka Ira) instead of Mia. Ayra from FE4 is a better choice to represent the Swordmaster class than Mia. She is Fire Emblem's first Swordmaster and the first to use Ryuuseiken (or Astra) skill. Mia is also confused with a Golden Sun character of the same U.S. name. The moveset I proposed for Ayra is much different from the one moveset proposed on this thread.

I initially thought that this thread was referring to the Golden Sun character too...bùhǎo =c

I would probably be excited about this Mia too, only...I've not yet played the game she's from. I am a blasphemer.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Here's Mia since the other pics failed.

Nice!

Mia is also in Fire Emblem: The Goddess of Dawn, and if you've seen the videos she's in, you can see that she's... "matured".

 

[Sinn]

Ah, so this Mia has bluish hair too...she seems quite...peppy. Maybe she'd be fun to have afterall.