Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

[RT]

Ding ding ding, you finally understand why I recommend starting with hammer. A lot of people never learned to read monster movement when starting out. I was forced to learn with hammer, since I had to predict when to strike as they turn around and face me.

It's also why I'll probably never use weapons with shields, except maybe charge blade and GS.

 

[Xyro77]

Customs are legal at Evo.

Super glad I did not register/buy a hotel.

 

[Trela]

You know, I always liked the original idea of allowing customs as a side event, but it never came about. I still would not mind entering them if they ever happened, as I believe it is the right way to test them out in a tournament setting.

But I do not agree with Evo's decision to allow them for such a wide-scale tournament without much to back up why they're doing so other than how plausible the whole Custom Move Project thing looks to be setting-up wise, and because a few players on Twitter asked about it.

And on another note, from the latest interview with Sakurai, it doesn't sound like balance patches will be on its way anytime soon. Sounds like I would be going to Evo just to lose to unknown (and possibly broken) custom moves along with pocket 's, all in a 2-stock setting, mind you. Not to mention that Houston will never abide by those rules, which means my only real means of practicing for this tournament would be by traveling to Dallas on a consistent basis.

I do not wish to compete in Smash 4 like this.

This post really does show my pessimistic side off well, doesn't it? I just feel that my mind is already made up about not attending Evo, though I know there's that SLIGHT bit of hope that their ruleset changes by March 27th. I don't think I'll be counting on that happening anytime soon.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Customs just feel so dumb but Trela is right about how the F can Evo use them in what's to be the biggest possible tournament for the game without widespread use.

Officially undecided for Evo. The jank factor is so real.

 

[z00ted]

lmfao u guys are weird no wonder you play smash 4

 

[GaiustheThief]

Eh I don't mind the customs legal but two stocks is really eck

 

[UltimateRazer]

Smooth Lander and Speed PLS

 

[Teshie U]

You know, I always liked the original idea of allowing customs as a side event, but it never came about. I still would not mind entering them if they ever happened, as I believe it is the right way to test them out in a tournament setting.

But I do not agree with Evo's decision to allow them for such a wide-scale tournament without much to back up why they're doing so other than how plausible the whole Custom Move Project thing looks to be setting-up wise, and because a few players on Twitter asked about it.

And on another note, from the latest interview with Sakurai, it doesn't sound like balance patches will be on its way anytime soon. Sounds like I would be going to Evo just to lose to unknown (and possibly broken) custom moves along with pocket 's, all in a 2-stock setting, mind you. Not to mention that Houston will never abide by those rules, which means my only real means of practicing for this tournament would be by traveling to Dallas on a consistent basis.

I do not wish to compete in Smash 4 like this.

This post really does show my pessimistic side off well, doesn't it? I just feel that my mind is already made up about not attending Evo, though I know there's that SLIGHT bit of hope that their ruleset changes by March 27th. I don't think I'll be counting on that happening anytime soon.

Customs just feel so dumb but Trela is right about how the F can Evo use them in what's to be the biggest possible tournament for the game without widespread use.

Officially undecided for Evo. The jank factor is so real.

The game is less than 3 months old at this point. There are people who say the game itself shouldn't be at a large tournament like EVO because its "untested" or "too new", despite 2 game at EVO that aren't even released yet.

Customs will be tested now because people will have to learn it for EVO. Just like people practiced two stock for Apex and just like neighboring cities practice 3 stock 7 minutes of ****ing wii fit studio for TGC.

Trela, you can still practice with customs in Houston. Xyro is the ONLY TO too stubborn to give them a shot and he only runs events every couple of months now. Xyro does not speak for all of Houston.

As for custom moves being possibly broken, the game is fresh and everything is possibly broken. The best place to see these things tested is at large tournaments with high level play. Not at a local with limited talent and creativity to truly see things through. So far nothing with customs on has been as dumb as the things already with them off.

There will always be a big tournament on the horizon being used as an excuse not to experiment or push the game forward. "Wait until after Apex" Then EVO, then the nationals in Fall, then Apex.

I think the MK ban proved that if customs don't work out, we CAN go back. If customs ruin the game, no one is going to just say "welp, lets just keep playing with them, its impossible to fix this".

 

[GaiustheThief]

Captain Falcon: Destroyer of Worlds

 

[Teshie U]

Also, I'm 99% certain they will only allow 10 presets for each character. Not ideal, but a good start.

Honestly I almost wish we just allowed customs to be used only 1 at a time, easily solving the issue with the limits placed on us.

 

[BC.]

I feel for you guys and I agree that EVO should not be the testing ground for customs when all of the events leading up to it have been no-customs tournaments.

That being said it is no secret I am pro-custom, and with my bias the decision makes me pretty happy. I'll be going to EVO now; if anyone wants to practice customs hit me up.

 

[Knife8193]

I thought it wasn't 100% confirmed yet?

 

[Teshie U]

I believe they just confirmed it a few hours ago. Nothing is set in stone until the end of March though.

People might groan about it enough to get it changed, but I await the results of a large tournament with customs on. Taking a small sample size is not how you test things properly.

Isnt EVO in June or July anyway? With people running customs now, the community will have more practice with it than without it when summer comes.

 

[BC.]

Why does this issue divide the scene so much? The people who are pro-customs seem to (for the most part) be down with going to tournaments whether customs are legal or not. Can't say the same about the anti-custom people.

EVO is a major purchase and decision though so obviously in that case I understand people basing their attendance on the legality of customs.

 

[Xyro77]

Like banning a character, custom moves is one of the largest status quo changes we could ever make.

If you know smash history, you know that once the status quo changes, it NEVER goes back.

Players do not think about this^ they just want what they want. If the status quo turns sour, they move on to the next game (creation of BB/B-/B+ and finally pm) or return to a previous game (the resurgence of Melee) instead of fixing the issue. I have seen this happen over and over since the dawn of competitive smash.

This is where people like me come in. People like me put our personal wants aside because we know that players come and go but the game is here to stay. The game is more important than the players.

 

[alex mora]

the addiction starts

 

[Teshie U]

Like banning a character, custom moves is one of the largest status quo changes we could ever make.

If you know smash history, you know that once the status quo changes, it NEVER goes back.

Players do not think about this^ they just want what they want. If the status quo turns sour, they move on to the next game (creation of BB/B-/B+ and finally pm) or return to a previous game (the resurgence of Melee) instead of fixing the issue. I have seen this happen over and over since the dawn of competitive smash.

This is where people like me come in. People like me put our personal wants aside because we know that players come and go but the game is here to stay. The game is more important than the players.

The game as we play it is this community. These players. Without us there is no game. People went to those mods because they liked them better than ANYTHING Brawl/Melee had to offer and thats perfectly valid. Its not little to do with what kind of rules were set for the real games.

In this region alone, you had MK legal, then banned, then legal, then he was banned across the country then legal again. Things can always change.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Don't know if it's cause I'm feeling weird today but Smash only in Houston for me seems to be becoming permanent...possibly an avenue to the end.

 

[Xyro77]

The game as we play it is this community. These players. Without us there is no game.

The game will sell and last without us. Smash is a party game that sells very well to the casual base. ssb64 sold 5.5 million and we didnt have a competitive scene for it until after melee appeared. this means non competitive players bought that game and kept buying that game.

People went to those mods because they liked them better than ANYTHING Brawl/Melee had to offer and thats perfectly valid.

ever said it wasnt "valid." its proof that players will trash a game when things go sour.

Its not little to do with what kind of rules were set for the real games.

Yes it did.

MK isnt an issue in PM
Tripping isnt an issue in PM
ICs are one of the worst characters in PM

These 3 things and MORE could have be fixed in brawl with rules but it never happened.

In this region alone, you had MK legal, then banned, then legal, then he was banned across the country then legal again. Things can always change.

Status Quo basically means what is "the norm." Never in the 6 year history of brawl was MK banned the norm. The USA did less than 6 months of majority MK ban. Hell, even TX (home of the MK banning LEGEND, Xyro) didnt ban MK on a wide scale. Oh and me? Yeah not even a 4th of my events banned MK. Why? Once the status quo has been set, it never reverts.

Same with banning stages, taking away items, banning techs and more. Once gone, always gone.

 

[z00ted]

Ohhh!! I get it XD... Customs were status quo "gone" but I guess since they're legal now at a national they'll stick forever, right? Thanks, Evo and Xyro logic!! Can't wait to attend TGC 3 w/ customs ^^

 

[Xyro77]

Ohhh!! I get it XD... Customs were "gone" but I guess since they're legal now they'll stick forever across the nation.
Thanks, Evo and Xyro logic!!

They werent gone. many many places use custom moves. just like many many use 2 stocks. read tournament discussion threads plz

 

[Tesh]

The game will sell and last without us. Smash is a party game that sells very well to the casual base. ssb64 sold 5.5 million and we didnt have a competitive scene for it until after melee appeared. this means non competitive players bought that game and kept buying that game.




ever said it wasnt "valid." its proof that players will trash a game when things go sour.



Yes it did.

MK isnt an issue in PM
Tripping isnt an issue in PM
ICs are one of the worst characters in PM

These 3 things and MORE could have be fixed in brawl with rules but it never happened.



Status Quo basically means what is "the norm." Never in the 6 year history of brawl was MK banned the norm. The USA did less than 6 months of majority MK ban. Hell, even TX (home of the MK banning LEGEND, Xyro) didnt ban MK on a wide scale. Oh and me? Yeah not even a 4th of my events banned MK. Why? Once the status quo has been set, it never reverts.

Same with banning stages, taking away items, banning techs and more. Once gone, always gone.

good lord if you honestly think pm fans would be in love with brawl with mk ics gone and tripping fixed, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

the mod that aimed to keep brawl's core gameplay while fixing balance issues was the least popular by far.

pm offers major changes that a ruleset could never have an effect on

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

 

[Xyro77]

I never said any of that lol. Stop incorrectly assuming stuff.

Edit: just found out today that I'm off. Anybody wanna play offline or go do something?

 

[GaiustheThief]

I'm sick so I didn't go to school
We can play online if that's a good enough supplement Xyro

 

[Sinister Slush]

What time is houston coming by.

 

[gamma1]

What time is houston coming by.

Yo slush, idk exactly when but I'll be there later tonight. Maybe around 10-11:30.

 

[Nike.]

razer go to Sam tmrw.

 

[Ojih~Sama]

imma swing by sync's after work around 3 today if anyone wants to play, if its ok with sync, pj, and tesh.

 

[Player-4]

Allan did you get MH4?

 

[Xyro77]

imma swing by sync's after work around 3 today if anyone wants to play, if its ok with sync, pj, and tesh.

ill be there if its ok with them.

Allan did you get MH4?

no way. i got rid of my 3ds long ago. id kinda consider MH4 if it was on console but eh im afraid its just more of MH3U style game play.

 

[RT]

ill be there if no way. i got rid of my 3ds long ago. id kinda consider MH4 if it was on console but eh im afraid its just more of MH3U style game play.

What do you mean by this? It's has the same core gameplay, except the weapons all got buffed (except bows apparently), new weapons are OP, you can mount monsters (which is OP), there's more (probably too much) vertical landscapes, and monster movement and interaction is smoother (i.e., there's less pausing in between their attacks and some monsters actually attack each other). They even have weapon training this time and the single-player has good tutorials if you actually read what is said plus help menus. Maybe you should actually do offline more instead of diving straight to online, I am 100% certain this is where you went wrong.

 

[Xyro77]

What do you mean by this? It's has the same core gameplay, except the weapons all got buffed (except bows apparently), new weapons are OP, you can mount monsters (which is OP), there's more (probably too much) vertical landscapes, and monster movement and interaction is smoother (i.e., there's less pausing in between their attacks and some monsters actually attack each other). They even have weapon training this time and the single-player has good tutorials if you actually read what is said plus help menus. Maybe you should actually do offline more instead of diving straight to online, I am 100% certain this is where you went wrong.

So its the same game but with buffs and nerfs to weapons, new monsters and a few new mechanics (mounting, for example). Not worth my time especially since i didnt really like the WiiU one.

Offline is IMPOSSIBLE for me. I value good mechanics/good design too much to put up with GARBAGE. Online, is a bit easier since i can hit n run with out being focused on. it helps counter the **** game.

 

[Player-4]

Lmao Allan plz

The game is pretty nice with the new 3DS after you get used to the controls

 

[RT]

It's not impossible, you're just being impatient/being reckless. Keep in mind that for solo quests, everything has less health than online. You have 50 minutes, some quests may take like 20-30. The only exceptions are quests that are purposely hard (which is usually the veeeeeeery last few handfuls). The fact that you're complaining about the difficulty of LOW rank monsters in solo and then triple carting to Great Jaggi (literally first big monster that dies in 3 hits in G-rank) when Qurupeco is supposed to be the monster you were supposed to struggle with (by design, to teach you to upgrade your weapon sharpness), I...just don't know what to say. And your refusal to try other weapons is another problem.

I'd say git gud by actually learning instead of complaining like most bad players, but...whatever. You already made your mind up.

 

[Xyro77]

It's not impossible, you're just being impatient/being reckless. Keep in mind that for solo quests, everything has less health than online. You have 50 minutes, some quests may take like 20-30. The only exceptions are quests that are purposely hard (which is usually the veeeeeeery last few handfuls). The fact that you're complaining about the difficulty of LOW rank monsters in solo and then triple carting to Great Jaggi (literally first big monster that dies in 3 hits in G-rank) when Qurupeco is supposed to be the monster you were supposed to struggle with (by design, to teach you to upgrade your weapon sharpness), I...just don't know what to say. And your refusal to try other weapons is another problem.

I'd say git gud by actually learning instead of complaining like most bad players, but...whatever. You already made your mind up.

Hey, guys! Xyro here. #TGC is just 8 days away! Are you excited? You should be because if the facebook event page is any indication of turnout, we may have 200 or more people sign up for smash WiiU. This means that TGC will have many new people attend Texas largest SmashWiiU tournament series. New people that many not know how I run events or how to help make this event the best event it can be. So let me take a moment and tell you a few things that will help me help you get the most out of TGC on Feb 28th.

1. Bring a full setup (WiiU/Smash4/TV). The more setups we have at TGC, the more matches we all can play and the faster the event will be completed. If you cannot bring a full setup, I request that you please bring any equipment that you can because anything will help. For the first 10 people that bring a full setup, you will get half your venue fee back. Anyone else that brings a full setup after the 10 will get a free drink. LOL if someone bring two full setups, ill buy you lunch.

2. Be punctual. Though none of you have to be at the venue by 9am like I do (however if you wanna be there at 9am you can) I do request that you be there by 10am. I say 10am because registration lines will be very long and you will need that time to register/hook up WiiU&TV/practice because on the tournament starts, there will be no more friendlies/money matches/registration.

2a. If you would like to make registration go faster, here are ways to help out. Show up to the venue early as possible. Furthermore, please already know which events you would like to enter when you walk up to me. Also, if you plan on doing 2vs2 smash, please stand in the registration line with your partner so yall can sign up together. One final thing, if possible, please pay with $1 or 5$ bills and have your money out and ready to be handed over when signing up for events. I take all forms of paper money but I prefer $1 and $5 bills so that I will not have to make change and I can pay the players out faster at the end of the night.

3. Due to the possibility of very high attendance, I have removed the 128 man cap. Having said that, I will be implementing a strict policy when it comes to disqualifications. When I call your name to go play a match, you have 5min to report to the TV that I have sent you to. If you do not show up to the TV within 5 min, you will be disqualified and sent to loser bracket. I know this may sound harsh but I need people to pay attention to my voice and I need this huge event to finish by 12am.

4. For more information on events, fees, rules, housing, times and anything TGC related, please go to the SmashBoards thread http://smashboards.com/threads/feb-...-200-pot-bonus-for-smash-4-houston-tx.384812/ or the Facebook event page https://www.facebook.com/events/1033314033352371/

 

[RT]

Nah man. Nah.

 

[Player-4]

RT I just beat Majora in MH

 

[Oni•n]

Hey, guys! Xyro here. #TGC is just 8 days away! Are you excited? You should be because if the facebook event page is any indication of turnout, we may have 200 or more people sign up for smash WiiU. This means that TGC will have many new people attend Texas largest SmashWiiU tournament series. New people that many not know how I run events or how to help make this event the best event it can be. So let me take a moment and tell you a few things that will help me help you get the most out of TGC on Feb 28th.

1. Bring a full setup (WiiU/Smash4/TV). The more setups we have at TGC, the more matches we all can play and the faster the event will be completed. If you cannot bring a full setup, I request that you please bring any equipment that you can because anything will help. For the first 10 people that bring a full setup, you will get half your venue fee back. Anyone else that brings a full setup after the 10 will get a free drink. LOL if someone bring two full setups, ill buy you lunch.

2. Be punctual. Though none of you have to be at the venue by 9am like I do (however if you wanna be there at 9am you can) I do request that you be there by 10am. I say 10am because registration lines will be very long and you will need that time to register/hook up WiiU&TV/practice because on the tournament starts, there will be no more friendlies/money matches/registration.

2a. If you would like to make registration go faster, here are ways to help out. Show up to the venue early as possible. Furthermore, please already know which events you would like to enter when you walk up to me. Also, if you plan on doing 2vs2 smash, please stand in the registration line with your partner so yall can sign up together. One final thing, if possible, please pay with $1 or 5$ bills and have your money out and ready to be handed over when signing up for events. I take all forms of paper money but I prefer $1 and $5 bills so that I will not have to make change and I can pay the players out faster at the end of the night.

3. Due to the possibility of very high attendance, I have removed the 128 man cap. Having said that, I will be implementing a strict policy when it comes to disqualifications. When I call your name to go play a match, you have 5min to report to the TV that I have sent you to. If you do not show up to the TV within 5 min, you will be disqualified and sent to loser bracket. I know this may sound harsh but I need people to pay attention to my voice and I need this huge event to finish by 12am.

4. For more information on events, fees, rules, housing, times and anything TGC related, please go to the SmashBoards thread http://smashboards.com/threads/feb-...-200-pot-bonus-for-smash-4-houston-tx.384812/ or the Facebook event page https://www.facebook.com/events/1033314033352371/

Woohoo! I Can't wait to kick your ass in 8 days! Prepare to get flushed down the toilet, Poop!

 

[RT]

RT I just beat Majora in MH

Eh? Are you talking about Gore Magala? I'm still in 4-star, been messing around with Expeditions and some HR2-3 slay and gather quests. Want to clear HR2-3 and get to high rank gathering hall and get to high rank caravan this weekend.

Doing the Coal quest solo is suffering when the game gives you 9 and you have to go online to find out Slagtoth Oils can be traded for the last one.