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Social Hideout of the Phantom Thieves - Joker Social

Best girl?

  • Sae

    Votes: 9 3.3%
  • Futaba

    Votes: 91 33.7%
  • Ann

    Votes: 26 9.6%
  • Haru

    Votes: 32 11.9%
  • Kawakami

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Takemi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Ohya

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Chiyaya

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Hifumi

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • Makoto

    Votes: 65 24.1%

  • Total voters
    270

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So, apparently, furry!Joker is starting to trend now.

https://twitter.com/Gurumi50t38/status/1128978314318626816

Can't believe that the stunt that was pulled in the Ultimate social went this far.



It probably doesn't help that Yakuza Kiwami 3 apparently is planned to have its controversial elements removed that were in the original.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/...n-to-meet-todays-moral-values-says-dev/59692/

So, inconsistency is the name of the game here. Some people are okay with this stuff, others aren't, that sort of thing.
Not sure if Morgana approves
 

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It probably doesn't help that Yakuza Kiwami 3 apparently is planned to have its controversial elements removed that were in the original.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/...n-to-meet-todays-moral-values-says-dev/59692/

So, inconsistency is the name of the game here. Some people are okay with this stuff, others aren't, that sort of thing.
But those are changes being made by the developer because of growing acceptance of LGBTQ+ people in Japan? That has nothing to do with Sony's restrictions on sexual content? Frankly, I think it's a stretch to even call that "censorship," given how it is the company making the choice themselves based on self-reflection and not the will of an external force.

Obviously everyone will have their own standards for what is acceptable, but, for better or for worse, I think ATLUS has made it clear what their standards are with things like Catherine Full Body's Neo Vision Mode. Sony hasn't stopped them yet and I highly doubt that they'll draw the line at ATLUS having a character wear a gymnastics leotard.
 

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But those are changes being made by the developer because of growing acceptance of LGBTQ+ people in Japan? That has nothing to do with Sony's restrictions on sexual content? Frankly, I think it's a stretch to even call that "censorship," given how it is the company making the choice themselves based on self-reflection and not the will of an external force.

Obviously everyone will have their own standards for what is acceptable, but, for better or for worse, I think ATLUS has made it clear what their standards are with things like Catherine Full Body's Neo Vision Mode. Sony hasn't stopped them yet and I highly doubt that they'll draw the line at ATLUS having a character wear a gymnastics leotard.
Good then. Besides, Persona 5 is not a kids' game anyway, so I doubt many people would freak out that much in the first place. It's not like Kasumi parades around with cleavage on full-display 24/7.
 

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Good then. Besides, Persona 5 is not a kids' game anyway, so I doubt many people would freak out that much in the first place. It's not like Kasumi parades around with cleavage on full-display 24/7.
It’s kiddie enough dammit
 

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Good then. Besides, Persona 5 is not a kids' game anyway, so I doubt many people would freak out that much in the first place. It's not like Kasumi parades around with cleavage on full-display 24/7.
Yeah, the game was going to be rated M regardless - and, frankly, a lot of the persona designs are more risque then her outfit. She may be changed if she's turning up in a non-M-rated game later (ex/ Smash), but within P5R she should be fine.

That said, personally, can't say I really care what happens. I play Persona for the story, not for the leotards.
 

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Yeah, the game was going to be rated M regardless - and, frankly, a lot of the persona designs are more risque then her outfit. She may be changed if she's turning up in a non-M-rated game later (ex/ Smash), but within P5R she should be fine.

That said, personally, can't say I really care what happens. I play Persona for the story, not for the leotards.
I mean, the leotard is meant to fit what is to he her iconic Phantom Thief outfit and reflect ger character, thus being apart of the story, so it's more than just that in a way.
 

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I mean, the leotard is meant to fit what is to he her iconic Phantom Thief outfit and reflect ger character, thus being apart of the story, so it's more than just that in a way.
Okay, yes, there is a story reason for the leotard, but you know what I meant...
 

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Shido’s palace isn’t as hype as Sae’s Casino...but it does have a better boss fight and boss song (can’t wait to play it myself)
 

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So, been having a bit of dilemma recently. I've been wondering what's the best route to continue my adventures in Persona. Persona 3 presents a bit of a conundrum as neither FES nor Portable seem to really be the optimal versions of the game (I hate missing all of the animations of FES in Portable, but loathe not having control of a party in a RPG). And I certainly know 3 has more dated mechanics like completely random dungeons and such. I own Portable on my Vita thanks to a sale, but I could get FES for PS3.

Persona 5 on the other hand just seems so damn compelling and more enticing after hearing so many good things about it. But now Royal is coming out next year and I'm wondering if I'm better served just waiting for that version and playing other games in the mean time (Such as Persona 3 Portable), but Persona 5 is really cheap these days and I've wanted to play it for ages (Which to be fair, it also shares this problem with 3)...

I figured this would be the best place to just outright ask given the number of Persona fans. Any tips?
 

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If you can afford it, definitely wait for the Royal. It seems to be a lot more content for a similar price.

And while I prefer FES, Portable is a better way to experience P3, especially in FeMC's route. Better social links, better gameplay, a lo of QoL changes etc. I think trying out first and then considering buying FES if portable elements isn't your thing would be the way to go.
 

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If you can afford it, definitely wait for the Royal. It seems to be a lot more content for a similar price.
yeah...no...Imma have to have both P5 and P5R...and maybe even P5S and P5DSN
 
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So, been having a bit of dilemma recently. I've been wondering what's the best route to continue my adventures in Persona. Persona 3 presents a bit of a conundrum as neither FES nor Portable seem to really be the optimal versions of the game (I hate missing all of the animations of FES in Portable, but loathe not having control of a party in a RPG). And I certainly know 3 has more dated mechanics like completely random dungeons and such. I own Portable on my Vita thanks to a sale, but I could get FES for PS3.

Persona 5 on the other hand just seems so damn compelling and more enticing after hearing so many good things about it. But now Royal is coming out next year and I'm wondering if I'm better served just waiting for that version and playing other games in the mean time (Such as Persona 3 Portable), but Persona 5 is really cheap these days and I've wanted to play it for ages (Which to be fair, it also shares this problem with 3)...

I figured this would be the best place to just outright ask given the number of Persona fans. Any tips?
Since you have a Vita, I recommend P3P more than P3 FES. FES does have a nicer presentation (P3P goes for a more Visual Novel style to it) and you do get an extra (canonical) mode with The Answer (which I've heard is grind heavy, wouldn't recommend), I think P3P is better in that you get to control your party and FeMC does offer a unique experience. It depends on if you want to have a better presentation or better quality gameplay (and with the former, if you have the cash to own FES).

P5 on the other hand, I would wait until we hear more news about Royal. I don't see any harm in owning P5 at the moment, but Royal seems to be polishing and fixing up the game...
If you have the patience, I say go for Royal... but let's hope that October 2019 date doesn't become a meme.
 

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Akechi gets credit for having Robbie Daymond delivers his anger and sanity to perfection
 

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Yeah, confirmation on Persona 3 Portable seems nice. I don't know why I've resisted playing it for so long.

Though, I've just been drooling over Persona 5 for ages, and I know the Western release date is supposed to be next year... When base Persona 5 is just $20, it's super tempting to just dive straight into the regular version now and just continue avoiding Persona 3 because of how damn good 5 looks (Not that 3 looks bad, I'm just scared of some mechanics I've heard about in it like being forced to romance relationships of the opposite gender and the tiring mechanic making dungeons not as grindable...)
 

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what does it mean to be a PS4 gamer without Persona 5?

Also beat the game for the first time and the first is always the best...time to instantly start New Game+ and become a religious co-main (tied with :ultinkling:, while :ultpit: is obviously staying as the top dog...so he’s a life character)
 

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Just for anyone who missed it: Persona Q2 has been shipped out early by Amazon US. So, remember, the internet is dark and full of spoilers!

Additionally, we got our first look at English-language Catherine: Full-Body footage from IGN. They have also confirmed that "certain characters are properly named in the credits" and that "some lines may have been changed about this character as well." I was kinda assuming that would be the case, but it's good to have confirmation (even if the confirmation weirdly has the word "may" in it).
 

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Just for anyone who missed it: Persona Q2 has been shipped out early by Amazon US. So, remember, the internet is dark and full of spoilers!

Additionally, we got our first look at English-language Catherine: Full-Body footage from IGN. They have also confirmed that "certain characters are properly named in the credits" and that "some lines may have been changed about this character as well." I was kinda assuming that would be the case, but it's good to have confirmation (even if the confirmation weirdly has the word "may" in it).
Neat!

Also, have some Makoto & Ann art I came across.

https://twitter.com/Kicdon_smash/status/1126880674072240129

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I can get that, but why would Ann be replaced by Kawakami? In the context of the picture, a female Phantom Thief would make the most sense.
That is indeed true, but Ann is missing something Kawakami has (something that is even bigger than being a Phantom Thief)...the powers of being a Hot Teaching Maid...and that’s all you need to take down any shadow or Smash character
 
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Also, Kawakami isn't in Ultimate, spirit or otherwise. Since the fan art in question concerns characters that appeared in this game, the only people Ann could reasonably be replaced with is either Haru, Futaba or the twin jailers.
 

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Also, Kawakami isn't in Ultimate, spirit or otherwise. Since the fan art in question concerns characters that appeared in this game, the only people Ann could reasonably be replaced with is either Haru, Futaba or the twin jailers.
She is there...in plain sight yet others are unable to see her...like Kellam or John Cena
 

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We don't need to fight about waifus everyone!

As the anime Twitter account is having a poll.


Options:
1) Makoto or Ann
2) Futaba or Haru
3) Hifumi or Chihaya
4) Kawakami or Takemi or Ohya

Winners of the poll will have scenes of their date with Ren released online early. There will also be date visuals for Ryuji and an unknown other character (probably Sae?), but you can't vote for them in the poll.

I also feel very bad for Hifumi and Chihaya, as the other three categories contain at least one of the most popular waifus, while they're just stuck by themselves...

Also, I am not sure if Haru is wearing any clothing in her character key art?
 

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We don't need to fight about waifus everyone!

As the anime Twitter account is having a poll.


Options:
1) Makoto or Ann
2) Futaba or Haru
3) Hifumi or Chihaya
4) Kawakami or Takemi or Ohya

Winners of the poll will have scenes of their date with Ren released online early. There will also be date visuals for Ryuji and an unknown other character (probably Sae?), but you can't vote for them in the poll.

I also feel very bad for Hifumi and Chihaya, as the other three categories contain at least one of the most popular waifus, while they're just stuck by themselves...

Also, I am not sure if Haru is wearing any clothing in her character key art?
I would like to point out that Ohya is on the same team as the most popular adult options. Seriously, those two are carrying her right now.
 

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We don't need to fight about waifus everyone!

As the anime Twitter account is having a poll.


Options:
1) Makoto or Ann
2) Futaba or Haru
3) Hifumi or Chihaya
4) Kawakami or Takemi or Ohya

Winners of the poll will have scenes of their date with Ren released online early. There will also be date visuals for Ryuji and an unknown other character (probably Sae?), but you can't vote for them in the poll.

I also feel very bad for Hifumi and Chihaya, as the other three categories contain at least one of the most popular waifus, while they're just stuck by themselves...

Also, I am not sure if Haru is wearing any clothing in her character key art?
If only they grouped the 4 best women together to make my life choice easier
 

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I would like to point out that Ohya is on the same team as the most popular adult options. Seriously, those two are carrying her right now.
Yeah... Pairing up Kawakami with Takemi and a bonus Ohya was a decision... Maybe one of the poll-makers really liked Ohya and wanted to boost her odds?

I'm also really curious how many of the Makoto/Ann and Futaba/Haru voters are voting for each character, as Makoto and Futaba definitely have the largest fan groups overall (even if our Smashboards poll doesn't reflect the Makoto part).
 

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Yeah... Pairing up Kawakami with Takemi and a bonus Ohya was a decision... Maybe one of the poll-makers really liked Ohya and wanted to boost her odds?

I'm also really curious how many of the Makoto/Ann and Futaba/Haru voters are voting for each character, as Makoto and Futaba definitely have the largest fan groups overall (even if our Smashboards poll doesn't reflect the Makoto part).
Yeah, Ohya really does feels like a bonus. Not a very good one mind you, but still a bonus. I think the poll makers just took pity on her.

Yeah, Futaba and Makoto together would have made the poll one sided. And thrust me when I say this, if Makoto had been in the Smashboards poll at the start of it, she likely would be first. I am not a fanboy of her or anything, but that's just what I think on the matter.
 

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Yeah, Ohya really does feels like a bonus. Not a very good one mind you, but still a bonus. I think the poll makers just took pity on her.

Yeah, Futaba and Makoto together would have made the poll one sided. And thrust me when I say this, if Makoto had been in the Smashboards poll at the start of it, she likely would be first. I am not a fanboy of her or anything, but that's just what I think on the matter.
Yeah... It's a bad sign when you're the Devil Arcana confidant and not even the Church of Satan is willing to endorse you as best girl (they picked Makoto).

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I forgot that she was left off the poll at the start... Yeah, probably then. Her character definitely was well-received amongst the audience en large, with good reason in my opinion.
 

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Yeah... It's a bad sign when you're the Devil Arcana confidant and not even the Church of Satan is willing to endorse you as best girl (they picked Makoto).
Damn that’s cold
 

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...or E3 (due to hopes they randomly announce the game for the Switch)
I believe ATLUS has only ever debuted a Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE trailer at E3. It's possible, but they really prefer the Japanese-focused E3-equivlant Tokyo Game Show.
 

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I believe ATLUS has only ever debuted a Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE trailer at E3. It's possible, but they really prefer the Japanese-focused E3-equivlant Tokyo Game Show.
That would work aswell
 
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