Smash Wii U Hidden Palutena's Guidance found - Who is it?

[Aunt Jemima]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0KivwmAoIq3

Apparently, a hidden guidance was made for an unknown character. Any idea who this may be?

 

[Ze Diglett]

Hmm... it might be an early version of the guidance used for the Mii Fighters. Or maybe an unused character?

 

[Brendan Stepladder]

Maybe it's for Mewtwo/any future DLC character?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Or it was a character planned at one time then got cut. Could be anyone, really. I do like the idea of it being the original Mii before it got turned into Mii Fighter. Mewtwo is reasonably possible, since he had zero Pokedex data in the Anime, which is reflected here on the "Lack of data" thing.

 

[Terrabell]

Could have been intended for the mii fighters,

 

[Ze Diglett]

I doubt it's for any DLC character, considering that they just recently started working on Mewtwo, so the presence of in-game data linking to him being playable seems unlikely.

 

[ItsBearTime]

My guess: It's a fail-safe guidance. If, for whatever reason, the game fails to load the guidance conversation for a character (be it because of a random glitch, or a character not intended to be playable being used via hacking, or whatever), it would default to this one.

 

[erico9001]

Probably was intended to be used for miis since they don't name anybody specific. It can't be Mewtwo or any DLC character then. Miis can be anybody, so this would work as a generic for any mii. They must have scrapped the idea and just treated the miis as miis.

 

[Dark Dr. Pink-Gold Pit Jr]

On the off chance that it's not an unused/failsafe/Mewtwo one, it could mean more DLC, and Sakurai fibbed to keep it hidden.

Seeing the whole "other dimension" tihng...Magalor?

 

[ChikoLad]

Considering how Sakurai said he isn't planning DLC beyond Mewtwo, but isn't denying the possibility, it's likely this Guidance would be for any future DLC character they end up implementing, since calling back the voice actors in all of these different languages would be awkward just for one or two characters.

Is Mewtwo associated with dimensional travel, at all?

 

[Vaidya]

I doubt it's for any DLC character, considering that they just recently started working on Mewtwo, so the presence of in-game data linking to him being playable seems unlikely.

They did not recently start working on him, stop making info up. Each character takes a year to create, and he's being released sometime in the Spring. He was worked on months before today.

It can't be Mewtwo, considering he isn't from another dimension. Wouldn't that mean all the other Pokemon are from another dimension too? Unless this means a third party character joins the battle... D:

 

[Ze Diglett]

They did not recently start working on him, stop making info up. Each character takes a year to create, and he's being released sometime in the Spring. He was worked on months before today.

http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...ayer-smash-originally-planned-for-melee-more/
"Finally, Sakurai briefly touches on plans for the future in Famitsu’s interview as well. “For now, only the distribution of Mewtwo is decided. Other than that is undecided.” Sakurai adds that production of Mewtwo has just started."
Do your research before accusing someone of throwing out false information.
Also, if every individual character took a year to create, that would mean that SSB4 would have over a 50 year ongoing development cycle on characters alone. That's completely unreasonable.

 

[Magikarpow]

Probably a failsafe. Eventually someone will hack the Wii U and when they do, you can be assured eventually someone will try Palutena's Guidance on a sandbag or something.

 

[NintenRob]

I think its just something to use for all dlc characters.

 

[Jigglymaster]

failsafe makes the most sense to me. Sakurai doesn't seem like he wants to make another DLC character besides Mewtwo and the KI characters aren't stupid enough to not know who Mewtwo is. If they can figure out who the rest of the cast is, they should be able for Mewtwo as well. still, its a small possibility it's Mewtwo, but I doubt it.

My reasoning behind the failsafe mostly has to do with the fact that the KI characters don't know who it is, so neither must the developers. Or is there really some popular DLC character that nobody would actually know? That all seems kind of silly to me. My money is on the failsafe.

 

[Vaidya]

http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...ayer-smash-originally-planned-for-melee-more/
"Finally, Sakurai briefly touches on plans for the future in Famitsu’s interview as well. “For now, only the distribution of Mewtwo is decided. Other than that is undecided.” Sakurai adds that production of Mewtwo has just started."
Do your research before accusing someone of throwing out false information.
Also, if every individual character took a year to create, that would mean that SSB4 would have over a 50 year ongoing development cycle on characters alone. That's completely unreasonable.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ays_to_play_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds
"The process, however, of actually creating a character often takes well over a year, where we are constantly working on the model, the animations, the audio and the balancing."

What a fool. You think they don't work on multiple characters at a time? You have no idea of what goes on during game development.

 

[ChikoLad]

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ays_to_play_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds
"The process, however, of actually creating a character often takes well over a year, where we are constantly working on the model, the animations, the audio and the balancing."

What a fool. You think they don't work on multiple characters at a time? You have no idea of what goes on during game development.

The process of working on a character takes a year when you have to work on 50 at once, as well everything else in the game.

Mewtwo is not being developed under such stressful circumstances, as Sakurai himself has stated.

 

[Sehnsucht]

I suspect that I, Sehnsucht, am the fighter discussed in that Guidance.

 

[NeonBurrito]

I'm pretty sure it's just what everyone else has said, either it's an error handler, a placeholder for all DLC characters, or an early / alternate version of the Mii's Guidance.

 

[Khao]

Considering how Sakurai said he isn't planning DLC beyond Mewtwo, but isn't denying the possibility, it's likely this Guidance would be for any future DLC character they end up implementing, since calling back the voice actors in all of these different languages would be awkward just for one or two characters.

Is Mewtwo associated with dimensional travel, at all?

Just what I was thinking.

This conversation would work for pretty much any character ever, and maybe that's just the point. It really even sounds like they made it as generic as possible on purpose. They knew there was going to be at least another character added to the game after development is complete and maybe even more, and hey, something has to happen when you do the guidance when one of those characters are on screen, right?

EDIT:
Heck, the conversation even makes sense with that. Palutena has no data of the character because they were created after the data itself.

Ouch, hit reply instead of edit, ****.

 

[stancosmos]

They did not recently start working on him, stop making info up. Each character takes a year to create, and he's being released sometime in the Spring. He was worked on months before today.

That's an awful aggressive statement for someone who never bothered to fact check.

 

[Ze Diglett]

What a fool. You think they don't work on multiple characters at a time? You have no idea of what goes on during game development.

The problem with that logic is that at this point in time, there only is one character to work on. Obviously, if they're dedicating more time and effort to just one character, rather than spreading the work out amongst ~50 of them (on top of stages, game mechanics, music, etc.), the character development process isn't going to take nearly as long.

 

[stancosmos]

The problem with that logic is that at this point in time, there only is one character to work on. Obviously, if they're dedicating more time and effort to one character, rather than spreading the work out amongst ~50 of them, the character development process isn't going to take nearly as long.

Either he's a troll, or he's just stubbornly sticking to his conviction that is in no way based off facts or logic. Either way, not worth your time.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Accually i could be mewtwo

Not exactly dimensions but i want to note dialga and palkia are from different universe not from the same universe

Mewtwo failed to make non dlc and mewtwo has a seperate file and palutena could be scanning the files in the main one and can't reach the other dlc characters/only mewtwo file

And finally exhibit A

At 2:53 Remember you all know who that is

Now as for above im not saying this is mewtwo because it matches the anime

Im just saying the only offical info about mewtwo is from those books from the mansion on cinibar island

(This is only a opinion not a fact)

 

[Snagrio]

I'd say Ice Climbers. Heck, their chant is in the 3DS version so maybe they were far enough along to get a Guidance before Sakurai pulled their plug.

 

[chaosmasterro]

Dimentio from Super Paper Mario???

 

[Vaidya]

The problem with that logic is that at this point in time, there only is one character to work on (unless there's some behind the scenes DLC character in the works, which is unlikely considering Sakurai said that they don't have any plans for DLC at this time). Obviously, if they're dedicating more time and effort to just one character, rather than spreading the work out amongst ~50 of them (on top of stages, game mechanics, music, etc.), the character development process isn't going to take nearly as long.

You're missing the point. Each character takes a year to create. Nothing you said really matter. You're telling me that only a few months ago they started work on Mewtwo, and in less than a year he's in the game?

Take into consideration that DLC is worked on even during initial development. What, right as soon as MK8 was out, ALL that DLC we got was started in in June and completed just now? Fail logic on you.

 

[~Burst~]

I'd say Ice Climbers. Heck, their chant is in the 3DS version so maybe they were far enough along to get a Guidance before Sakurai pulled their plug.

That makes no sense considering Pit fought them in Brawl.

 

[Snagrio]

That makes no sense considering Pit fought them in Brawl.

Wah?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

You're missing the point. Each character takes a year to create. Nothing you said really matter. You're telling me that only a few months ago they started work on Mewtwo, and in less than a year he's in the game?

No, Sakurai directly told us he just started working on Mewtwo's actual game data besides his base model around the start of December. This is official word. Seriously, it only takes a year when tons of stuff in being worked upon. There is no way it takes a year for a single character and then for Sakurai to outright start him(officially) in December and expect him less than six months later. He's clearly not going to take that long. Sakurai is sometimes bad at wording stuff. He didn't make it obvious that it does take a year during busy periods, which is the most logical thing and explains exactly why Mewtwo is going to take about 4-5 months at most.

Take into consideration that DLC is worked on even during initial development. What, right as soon as MK8 was out, ALL that DLC we got was started in in June and completed just now? Fail logic on you.

You mean Mewtwo and that's it? Do some research. None is being done besides him. At all. He also directly told us this. Like, today(no more balance patches are going to be done unless something extremely bad comes up. He just admitted that he's done working on the game beyond Mewtwo. More than once he even said Mewtwo is the only current DLC.). The Miiverse stage is already complete, it just needs Miiverse people creating fun phraes to add on. It takes literally about 5 people max to keep an eye on funny Miiverse phrases to add on. And then boom, done. It's just Battlefield and he even showed us he had phrases already done.

How many times does Sakurai have to outright tell you that Mewtwo is his only thing being worked on till you understand this? He will not take a year unless Sakurai somehow is put into the hospital, making it impossible to complete him on time. He'll be in as late as May. Guaranteed bar the one potential exception noted.(or, you know, some executive meddling actually stopping Mewtwo from being put out at all) The time needed is far lower. Complications beyond that are possible, but they're few and far between. It's also obvious why he's not doing more balance patches, so he can test Mewtwo against the currently updated cast and have a solid thing to work with. With less testing time needed, he can get him done faster. He also has more members to work on the character, nothing else to work, and zero implications he'll be stopped from working on him constantly.

 

[Ven447]

Gligamesh confirmed for Smash Bros. The Rift Walker is among us

 

[Igzex]

It's probably a placeholder for future character additions (Like Mewtwo) and a failsafe.

Or Shuma Gorath is gonna be DLC for this game too

 

[~Burst~]

Wah?

Pit and Ice climbers were in brawl together. How would Pit not know who they are or have no data on them?

 

[SmashChu]

Like everyone else said, likely failsafe. Also, all the guidence-es reference the characters name, so I doubt this was intended for a character who got cut.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Another dimension? Tabuu mayhaps? Perhaps a reformed Tabuu that Pit and Palutena don't recognize?
Or I can completely grasp straws here and go for Rayman :L

 

[Trami Nguyen]

I want to see Pit tells Palutena about Kirby during this stage.

 

[Hayzie]

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ays_to_play_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds
"The process, however, of actually creating a character often takes well over a year, where we are constantly working on the model, the animations, the audio and the balancing."

What a fool. You think they don't work on multiple characters at a time? You have no idea of what goes on during game development.

Why do you still exist?

 

[Reila]

Clearly they are talking about Inkling :D

It is probably not related to any veteran character, I think. It might not be related to any character at all, even.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Admittedly, it would be hilarious to hear such a horrified conversation about Sandbag or a half-finished Wolf. But that's likely what it's intended for. Not including a failsafe in programming is extremely risky.

 

[Khao]

I've been seeing some talk about this being actually directed at the hacker who found it in the game files.

If that's the case, this is ****ing hilarious. For multiple reasons.